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caroline2 02-27-2016 01:36 PM

On this Heavy Metals issue, just know that those living in fluoridated waters are getting heavy metal doses constantly as long as drinking, cooking, bathing etc. in public watsters. Unless you are fortunate to live in a city that rejects this fluoridation. I've talked about this issue and have a major post about this issue in medications/treatments section here. I've been in the "battle" for years.

This is what goes into public waters and then our bodies.

http://energyfanatics.com/2011/02/23...rinking-water/

kiwi33 02-28-2016 02:58 AM

Quoting from the most recent link:

"Structured water is healthier than tap water because its molecules are more active, making it more energetically alive, fresh, and vibrant."

I do not understand this - can somebody explain it to me?

madisongrrl 06-17-2017 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkynose (Post 1200335)
Mine was just a saliva panel too. I'm not sure about accuracy either. Maybe we can compare results on PM anyway?

So I've read a little more about this so I wanted to revisit this topic. Basically, there are 2 polarizing camps on this whole topic of adrenals.....which I was aware of but wasn't sure exactly what has been published in the medical literature.

You have the integrative people who say adrenal fatigue is a real thing. Then you have the traditionally trained doctors saying it's either Addison's disease or nothing. The truth and evidence are somewhere in the middle.

This interview with Bryan Walsh was so interesting. He says that urine, blood, and saliva testing are all valid....however they are all different pieces of the puzzle as to what is going on with you. He digs into the medical literature and explains some of the valid reasons as to why cortisol can be low.

Robb Wolf - Paleo Solution Podcast- Episode 342 - Dr Bryan Walsh - Adrenal Fatigue

madisongrrl 06-17-2017 06:17 PM

Here is another interview and it breaks the topics down by time stamp.

Dr Bryan Walsh - The Hidden Truth About Adrenal Fatigue - The Energy Blueprint

madisongrrl 06-18-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by madisongrrl (Post 1244964)
Here is another interview and it breaks the topics down by time stamp.

Dr Bryan Walsh - The Hidden Truth About Adrenal Fatigue - The Energy Blueprint

Some of the most interesting pieces of this interview that pertain to chronic illness:

How glyphosate might be causing low cortisol in people (21:50)

-Talks about a study which showed amounts of Roundup at levels far below what EPA/WHO considers safe showed cortisol suppression. I'm looking for this study, so if anyone stumbles across it, please post it!

Why the LD50 (the lethal dose of toxins) argument is deeply flawed (23:25)

- Many arguments are made by science skeptics by citing the LD 50 (acutely) as to why all the toxins in our lives are safe. What is not being considered is the LD 50 over a substantial length of time (years), the studies suggesting a synergistic effect between multiple toxins at a lower dose can be damaging, and the latency effect that you can get exposed to something today and not exhibit symptoms until much later. This is one of the reasons why I decided to leave the lab bench behind.

How new research shows that low doses of toxins are as damaging and dangerous as high doses through the Non-monotonic dose-response (27:10)

-The dose does not make the poison. The non-monotonic dose-response suggests that low doses of a given chemical are literally just as physiologically damaging as high doses. These studies started coming out in 2012. The class of toxins that this is reported in is specifically endocrine disrupters.

How negative toxin tests doesn’t mean that you do not have toxins in your body (57:35)

-There are studies that showed people who have tested negative for a chemical in blood, stool, and urine but then tested positive for the chemical via a sweat test. This speaks to the storage and liberation of that chemical.

echoes long ago 06-18-2017 11:50 AM

thank you for this......this pertains to me in a different way than to you but may be very helpful in something i have been trying to accomplish for quite a while. Especially the synergistic effect of multiple toxins but also the LD 50.

kiwi33 06-19-2017 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by madisongrrl (Post 1244992)
-Talks about a study which showed amounts of Roundup at levels far below what EPA/WHO considers safe showed cortisol suppression. I'm looking for this study, so if anyone stumbles across it, please post it!

Maybe it is this rat model study Analysis of endocrine disruption effect of Roundup(R) in adrenal gland of male rats - ScienceDirect.

chris85 07-04-2017 01:36 PM

I read that bentonite clay can help pull heavy metals out of the body, I've never taken it myself, but I believe in this clay.

I watch this guy: healing by design -heavy metal toxicity. Well he is saying these metals play havoc with the nervous system.


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