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Icehouse 09-13-2022 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wide-O (Post 1300882)
Well, I sold my trusty Lancer Evo 9 back in November. I sold it after 15 years for

Sold the play toy? I hope you didn't buy a damn Prius! ;)

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Originally Posted by Wide-O
you need half the bloody engine out.

Welcome to anything 2000 and above....

While we are dreaming.... 2012 Cadillac CTS-V Wagon :eek:

BTW, heart is fine, blood pressure is fine now. I may have to quit cigars as they are messing with my BP.

Wide-O 09-14-2022 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Icehouse (Post 1300974)
Sold the play toy? I hope you didn't buy a damn Prius! ;)


Worse! A 2012 Toyota Avensis diesel. :D I think I sold at the top, the Toyota is very boring, but economical, lots of space (wagon), lots of features, and indestructable really. And it looks like new, even inside, which is quite amazing for a 10 year old "taxi". For a 5th of the price of "the toy".



Can't keep a good man down though, so when the markets clear up a bit, who knows. :cool:


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BTW, heart is fine, blood pressure is fine now. I may have to quit cigars as they are messing with my BP.

That's good to hear. Well not for the cigar industry but you know what I mean. ;)

Icehouse 09-14-2022 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Wide-O (Post 1300982)
Worse! A 2012 Toyota Avensis diesel. :D

Had to Google that one! Looks like our Camry...but we don't have the diesel option on many cars anymore :icon_rolleyes:

5-spd at least?

Wide-O 09-15-2022 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Icehouse (Post 1300986)
5-spd at least?


6 even. But I miss about 250 BHP so I really need them LOL.:D Manual of course. (although the BMW auto boxes are pretty incredible lately)

SecondChances 09-20-2022 06:53 AM

I am very frightened. My legs are very bad. When I stand my legs are so weak it feels like they will buckle beneath me. I am under enormous stress always but worse just now so that may be a factor but sure feels like they are progressively worse. I did not expect miracles but at least was hoping to stop the progression.
Last week my pre-diabetic status was upgraded to diabetic. I'm actually not surprised as without drinking I crave carbs and sugar and so indulging since the worse of two evils. I will need go to a nutritionist because I know so little other than to stop or limit the carbs and sugar. Also recent labs show elevated liver and kidney levels. Why would they still be going up without drinking?

K, so other than the basics of eat right, exercise as best I can, quit smoking, and the supplements, anything else you can think of that might help?
I was hoping that the joys of sobriety would bring a new life which included better health, decreased depression and anxiety, maybe even the opportunity to get out, make friends and even a little job, but it's not happening. I am just going downhill. I am struggling to not stay off the pitty pot too long but do allow myself to grieve all my losses, both self induced and the horrific pain brought on by others. Self reflection is important as I ran away with alcohol for far too long but it will take me down if I get to confronting all my demons and facing my reality all at once.

I know I should start doing meetings. I am what we call a dry drunk. I don't know why I am so intimidated, I did them for years and never found more love and acceptance than with all those wonderful people. Part maybe there is no one to force me like previously when my sponsor insisted I do my 90 in 90. I know the other issue is that I have a bit of social anxiety thing going on.

Well any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated. Anything you all did that I am not doing that helped your neuropathy? Another major set back was my physical therapist. I have been going there for weeks for a bad back. I have done PT numerous times for this issue with no improvement so gave up a long while ago. Only recently started up and I gotta say this therapist really knows his stuff. He is remarkable and brought me far when all others failed. We have also been working on balance and strengthing of legs just for overall well being and not specifically neuropathy related but when I asked him what could we do to focus on the neuropathy he said "Nothing". It is impossible to treat. I guess I knew this but he is such a miracle worker I had been hopeful and actually dreaded asking. I was afraid what he might say.

Icehouse 09-20-2022 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondChances (Post 1301056)
I am very frightened. My legs are very bad. When I stand my legs are so weak it feels like they will buckle beneath me.

That is how I felt before I put myself in a wheelchair about 12 years ago.

Eat well, get some moderate exercise, keep up the PT and maybe look for a Celebrate Recovery group near you. 12 step with a kick ;)

SecondChances 09-20-2022 03:11 PM

But Icehouse, also know that I was diagnosed 2011 with alcoholic neuropathy when it was just slight tingling after a long day standing on my feet. It has just progressed from there. I understand the longer it goes on the less chance of recovery. Wasn't yours a quicker onset?
Recovery prognosis online is very vague and non-committal but basically says nothing except "It might get better and it might not". Ugh, thanks for that but good no one is giving out false hope I guess? Question for my friends here.....perhaps someone can confirm or offer their understanding. So my pain, tingling and pins and needles in feet and calves had totally stopped and I was very encouraged and optimistic but then I recall reading that once you no longer feel those sensations it means the nerves are completely dead with no chance of regeneration and only the weakness, numbness and atrophy remain. 😥 Now the pain is back along with all the other issues. Does anyone think this a good sign? I had read it often gets worse before better and this is a sign of healing. I doubt if anyone knows but had to ask.
I am definitely at the worse I have ever been. Def wheelchair bound soon if this conditions continues.I had been using a cane but only when I had to walk more than a couple blocks and more so for just in case and assurity but never had to use it. Yeah, I seriously considering a walker for at least if I had to get up during night or when first up in morning. Ugh, this sucks.
Thanks all for listening. I won't even go to a doctor about this and I lie to everyone as I flop all over and I get the ******* constant joke of "Hey, isn't it a little early to be drunk". Ha, ha. No, I destroyed my life by drinking too much. Still think it's funny?

Icehouse 09-20-2022 03:21 PM

If 4 years is quick then, yes.
I think pain is a good sign. I remember having no feeling at all in some parts of my feet.
I destroyed my life too, but I built a new one. That is why I am still here, encouragement and a glimmer of hope.
Not funny at all, but nothing is impossible.

SecondChances 09-23-2022 06:10 AM

I suspect stress is a huge part. It's intense here. Also I don't know if I mentioned this but I was pre-diabetic for years but with quitting the boose I indulged in sweets and salty carb snacks. Now I am full blown diabetic. That certainly is likely adding to my declining mobility.

Wide-O 09-23-2022 07:50 AM

I want to be as succint as possible: sugar is unfermented alcohol. It's almost just as bad for neuropathy, and just as bad for your liver.


My biggest gains happened when I switched to an anti-inflammatory diet that I kept up for at least a year.


You can become a non-diabetic again by just changing your diet. No pills needed. Just look at all forms of sugar (and that includes natural ones in orange juice, or honey etc.) and remove them from your diet without going overboard.


If it comes in a packet, the cardboard has probably more nutrition than the content. Fresh is key.

Avoid "fat free" stuff. Fat doesn't make you as fat (which is pretty ironic) as glucose does. And "low fat" always contains extra sugar, otherwise it would taste like old socks.

Don't overdo it. I indulged once a week (french fries etc), I didn't want it to become a chore. I actually had fun figuring out how it all worked, what was fad, and what was science.

I lost 34 kg in one year, and my triglycerides went from 500 to 150 (!).

I know this is the internet, but trust me, this really happened.

Am I cured? Nope. Still need pain killers. Stress makes everything 10 times worse. Be kind to yourself, treat your body, catch some sunshine, and try to relax. :cool:


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