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Old 01-26-2018, 10:46 PM #1
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I had a Hair mineral analysis done (USA lab) which showed out the roof levels of Vanadium and Cobalt. Both of these are used extensively in aviation fuel.

Incidentally while checking cobalt, I found many sites linking hip implants with Cobalt poisoning. (I don't have any implants) Caused when the joints rub and shave off bits of the metal. Not all the metals used in hips contain cobalt but for those with bad cobalt poisoning they are advised to get a new replacement without cobalt in it.

I am now on a major natural handling detox programe to handle the toxics in my body from the aviation fuel. I have a list of those if anyone is interested. I have also stopped the ful vapour entering my home (have to keep everything shut for now!) and have an Innovair air purifier running constantly.
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I had a Hair mineral analysis done (USA lab) which showed out the roof levels of Vanadium and Cobalt. Both of these are used extensively in aviation fuel.

Incidentally while checking cobalt, I found many sites linking hip implants with Cobalt poisoning. (I don't have any implants) Caused when the joints rub and shave off bits of the metal. Not all the metals used in hips contain cobalt but for those with bad cobalt poisoning they are advised to get a new replacement without cobalt in it.

I am now on a major natural handling detox programe to handle the toxics in my body from the aviation fuel. I have a list of those if anyone is interested. I have also stopped the ful vapour entering my home (have to keep everything shut for now!) and have an Innovair air purifier running constantly.
Good for you and all your hard work to get to the "root" of your issues. It irritates me when many will say, don't rely on dr. google. See your doctor.

I do MOST of my work for my health issues and I have an issue going on right now and I'm working to get to the "root" but will NOT go to a doctor that's for sure.

I too use 95% supplements and found thru a mineral panel, the 3 minerals I was low in and all connected to joint issues. SO I do supplement with the 3 minerals, slowly but often enough.

Hope all continues on a good path. C
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Good for you and all your hard work to get to the "root" of your issues. It irritates me when many will say, don't rely on dr. google. See your doctor.

I do MOST of my work for my health issues and I have an issue going on right now and I'm working to get to the "root" but will NOT go to a doctor that's for sure.

I too use 95% supplements and found thru a mineral panel, the 3 minerals I was low in and all connected to joint issues. SO I do supplement with the 3 minerals, slowly but often enough.

Hope all continues on a good path. C
I'm with you. Every single thing I have found out has been thru own searching. My doctor is a lovely lady but has not offered one suggestion so far about anything - even the neurology testing for the then slowly creeping numbness. Luckily she thought it was a good idea when I suggested it! I have managed to get some non invasive tests done via this same route of suggesting it and the reason why.

If I had relied on the blood tests that were done I would not have the answers I have. The Hair analysis I arranged with Interclinical Labs - respected place (some companies are rubbish)- showed me much more. The doctor doesn't offer that. The Hair test proved at least 3 of the blood results were totally wrong, I would have been working with incorrect information. The doctor had no explanation but looked at all the results and agreed it seemed the blood tests were wrong. She tried to explain the calcium - saying tests are different for blood and hair - but agreed that the truth is that the calcium is extremely high. I suggested a parathyroid ultra sound as a possible cause - but that is a good result - so am not sure yet where calcium is coming from. Am researching whether one of the key products in aviation fuel uses calcium??

Blood showed calcium and magnesium totally normal and potassium high. The hair showed calcium off the chart (229 instead of MAX of 95) and magnesium way way above acceptable and potassium was LOW. I took the hair the same day I did the blood tests - so ensure the same base.

I found a liquid 75 trace plant minerals very good and being liquid helps assimilate. Check it out if you like - Youngevity Plant Derived Minerals. But don't get the one for Osteo (added calcium) because I checked by contacting them and it only has 1/3 of the minerals in it (not obvious in the literature). In this case its the minerals we are after so go for more minerals, for sure.

Ever onwards and thank heavens for google. When you keep searching you find the scientific papers and they have been very helpful with test studies.
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Sandyocean, I would put more reliance on the blood measurements of Ca2+, Mg2+ and K+ levels. They are what are physiologically relevant (measurements from hair samples are not). How high is your blood K+?

I am puzzled that you are drinking a plant-derived source of minerals. Minerals (formally, monovalent and divalent cations) are essential nutrients with identical chemical properties regardless of their source. Have you come across any clinical evidence that minerals from plants have special properties which minerals from other sources do not have?
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Sandyocean, I would put more reliance on the blood measurements of Ca2+, Mg2+ and K+ levels. They are what are physiologically relevant (measurements from hair samples are not). How high is your blood K+?

I am puzzled that you are drinking a plant-derived source of minerals. You are not a plant. Have you come across any clinical evidence that this is a good idea?
I have massive symptoms of high calcium so the blood test result made no sense. Even the doctor was expecting high calcium. Bone spurs showing on new back and knee x-rays and tons of gallstones recently appeared, for starters.

K showing a fraction low on Hair test. No blood test done for K. They didn't bother with that one.

Interesting thought! I feel flowers and plants around us are a most excellent source of nutrition and healing on many levels.
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So many MD's over the years continue to push calcium and I've read enough that this is not the answer...so much of these high doses of calcium go to the bloodsream vs the joints. I almost got into a battle with a rheumy MD when she was pushing me to take more calcium and I kept saying more magnesium and less calcium....now I'm up on the Vit D3 and K2 and hardly any calcium tabs.
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I hope you don't mind my bringing up this older thread, but I am puzzled and wondering about your normal plasma calcium but high hair calcium. Do you recall if your blood calcium was normal range or actually low?

Were you taking large amounts of Vitamin D at the time?

Off that particular topic, but I was reading a lot of the studies that were done on the RAAF (Royal Au Air Force) F111 (an aircraft now retired) servicing personnel who were basically poisoned in the discharge of their duties. Of course PN was one of the many symptoms they all ended up with and I also came across some mention of Tinnitus in one of lot of govt. information and its potential relationship to the solvents they were using.

Good grief. One of the things I remember from years back was how exciting these F111s were and recall their "dump and burns". The US govt. apparently deemed it too hazardous but oh not not our govt. We all used to race off to watch.

Anyway, I'm sorry to go off on such a tangent but that's a terrible thing to have happened to you. I hope you don't live there anymore.

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