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Old 08-07-2007, 08:11 PM #1
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Question So should i or should i not take b12 vitamin?

A few days ago i posted some questions about autoimmune neuropathies. Melody recomended that i take Methyl b12, because of the benefits she's received from it. So when i read her post, i decided to take it. I had some difficulties because iherb does no ship to Mexico, but i finally found someone from the Staes who is willing to order it and take it to me here. So before i start taking b12 i would like you to help me understand somethings because i have been reading all kinds of contradictory information.

First i read on another post it is recommended to take ONLY Methyl b12, since b12 is the vitamin required for nerve repair. But i read on another post that taking all the b complex is better because having just one type of the b complex can actually lead to some sort of imbalance. So what is the truth, or what do you think is the best in my case (i have an autoimmune neuropathy, i expirience pins, needles, numbness and other weird sensations in my legs). I also read taking only Methyl b12 is better because it can better be absorbed by the body. So, what do you think?? should i take methyl b12 or the whoe b vitamin complex?? I case i decide to take only b12 vitamin (which i am likely going to do, due to Mel's incredible improvement), how should i take it?? What is the recommended dose??

I was also reading someone mentioned vitamin b6 can worsen neuropathy. Is this true?? Is this suppossed to mean that taking b vitamin complex is not a good idea??

An other question. Do you think Methyl b12 can only hel people with diabetic neuropathy. My neuropathy is, as i mentioned before, immune mediated, so taking methyl b12 is as useful no matter the underlying cause of the neuropathy??

I would also like to know if you think taking so many vitamins can lead to mor issues. I am currently on vitamin c and e (it was prescribed by a doctor) and i am also on imuran, novotiral and other stuff. What do you think guys???

Well, last but not least. I decided to give hyperbaric medicine a try. Here in Mexico it is not as expensive as it is in the states. I am paying 350 pesos per session which is about 35 american dollars. To me that's affordable. I have good expectations about it, i know no medicine is magic and i know that if ti works it will take time. The doctor explained how healing occurs, and how important oxygen is in this process. There'e a woman in the clinic who told me how better she was after 15 sessions. I have been experiencing what i call "healing sensations". I think this might be to a healing process acceleration. I will definetly keep you informed about the outcome, just in case you're interested.

Thank you everybody.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:22 PM #2
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Hi,

Most people can convert the cyanocobalamin form to a smaller amount of methylcobalamin. The reason to take methylcobalamin if you can get it (thanks to your angel you did ) is that it covers some unlikely possibilities. It just makes sense to take the best when you can.

Cyanocobalamin has saved lives and helped people repair for decades. Methylcobalamin is just better.

It is good to take a B complex (also, and at a different time) just because you might not have the optimal amount of one of the other vitamins, and the body can't do its best work if it doesn't have the tools. With B12, there isn't a need to worry about imbalance.

Methylcobalamin isn't the only one that can be absorbed. When a large enough dose is taken at one time, even those with severe malabsorption can benefit.

Methylcobalamin dose: at least 1000 mcg, and many times more is safe.

Too much B6, or too little B6, can cause nerve problems. Don't take huge doses. Most B complex keep it down to 50 mg or less. That is good, although damage is very rare even at 200 mg.

Yes, methylcobalamin is good to take no matter what the cause. And studies have shown it helpful even in some cases where there is no deficiency.

If you read my website (not a lot, but very important information), more of your questions about B12 will be answered.

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Rose has been the resident B-12 expert here for quite some time. I do not believe anybody has gone wrong by following her advice. I have been taking a good B-complex, supplemented with B-12 for quite awhile.

It is just one of those things that is a no-brainer, within reason due to finances. I take the methyl just in case I have trouble absorbing the cyano . . . I have no evidence of such, but when trying to heal damaged nerves, I want to do anything safe that might help. I go for 5 mg (5000 mcg) every night, sublingual, long after I have taken all the rest of my pills.

I am certainly interested in your experience with hyperbaric therapy. I would urge you to post periodic follow-ups. And good luck with your treatment!

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always nice to hear from you,and i hope you listen to Rose. And i agree
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Hi Monica, i think a lot of people here will be interested in your progress with the
hyperbaric therapy, so please do keep us up to date.

We here in Australia can't get the best form of B12 [ Methylcobalamin ] in supplement form either, unless we import it in, but it costs about 70 bucks a bottle so i use 2 or 3mg of B12 Cynocobalamin daily, which still does the trick
but i think it takes longer to get the benefits, i also get shots of b12 Hydroxocobalamin off my doctor which with the two types combined has really helped me a lot.
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Brian:

You can't go to iherb.com and pay with a credit card and they won't ship the Methyl to you in Australia?????

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You can't go to iherb.com and pay with a credit card and they won't ship the Methyl to you in Australia?????

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Yes Melody, you can get in through the iherb company, others here in OZ have posted some time ago, that they have got it in with iherb, it used to be that our customs would hold orders up and iherb at one stage wouldn't send it to Australia, but going by others the customs are more relaxed and are allowing it through with no hiccups.
Its the price of shipment thats stops me, i think it was about $70 for one bottle, may be cheaper to order in bulk but its a lot of money on a Disabilty pension.
Our stupid goverment allows methylcobalin to be made up for injections, there is a place in Melbourne that makes it, but i think you have to be a doctor to order it or it has to be sent to a doctors premises, its is really stupid that they won't allow them to make it in supplement form.
We can buy the injectable form of b12 Hydroxocobalamin which is pretty good stuff without a script, only $12 for 2 shots, if you have a script its only $4.80 on a pension.
I am lucky i can take cynocobalamin, but yeah, its all wrong.
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Wow, Brian:


I had no idea the shipping was so expensive.

Here's hoping that something changes over at your end so you can finally purchase the Methyl.

I know it works. It works for me and I've been on it for over 3 months now.

All I can do is hope that you will find a way to get it.

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Wow, Brian:


I had no idea the shipping was so expensive.

Here's hoping that something changes over at your end so you can finally purchase the Methyl.

I know it works. It works for me and I've been on it for over 3 months now.

All I can do is hope that you will find a way to get it.

All the best

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Yeah Mel, its expensive alright, at first i was getting methyl through via another country, no problems with customs that way, i don't know why , the shots of b12 i get is still very good stuff it goes directly into the blood and does a good job, and i am pretty well ok now with my PN, only take cynno for insurance really.
I have read how good its been for you which is a terrific result.
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Thank you all for your replies. I will start on Methyl b12 as soon as the person who bought it for me gets here. It is a shame they don't ship this to other countries...

I am really glad i found this forum. I see people here are not ontly well informed but also willing to help others. I really appreciate that.

As far as hyperbaric medicine is concerned i will defenitely keep you informed. I have taken 6 sessions so far, the doctor says i may need 20 or 25, but i will let you know how it turns out. I am aware nerve regeneration is a slow process but i am really positive about the effects this treatment may have. I'll keep you informed.

Thank you again
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