Originally Posted by ConsiderThis (Post 144819)

Hi, I don't know if you've looked at my site at all, but apparently in Japan the low for B12 is 550, where as here in the states it is often as low as 180.

I've never heard of AOR, do you know where they are located. Certainly a higher dose per lozenge would be good.

:)

I just Googled it, and boy it's expensive. I'm not sure why AOR thinks its prices are reasonable.

Still haven't found where the company is located, though.

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I see, I found it in Canada and Great Britain.

I don't know... when I was going to get Methylcobalamin made up so I could give it away to people under stress, like after Katrina, I found that the basic methylcobalamin is really cheap. (I wasn't able to do that because of the problem with my condo, now in Appeal.)

And as far as I know it's all basically manufactured in the same places; what varies in vitamin lozenges is the purity or quality control on the amount included.

I know that when I lived in London many things were very much more costly than here in the U.S.

If I had a choice, I think I'd buy the less costly product since I think both Jarrow and Source Naturals have certificates relating to the purity...
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Originally Posted by Mark._. (Post 145010)

I bought a multi vitamin last year from AOR called 'ortho core', everyone was raving about it on a vitamin forum, it was a good product but really expensive so I only took it for a month. I think the company produce good quality supplements.

You are right about london being expensive, supplements bought in the UK are way too expensive, jarrow's methyl b12 is about 4 times more expensive than iherb charge.

I went to my local chemist today and mentioned to the Pharmacist that I was taking 5mg of methyl b12 a day and she said that 5mg was a very large dose and that it is not a good idea to take large doses of any kind of vitamin as it can be quite bad for you. Now im stuck as to whether to carry on taking the b12 or not...

Originally Posted by Brian (Post 145049)

The pharmacist wouldn't know what day it is, what ever the body doesn't use it gets rid of it, i wouldn't be worried if i took 60 mg of it per day.

Brian :)

Originally Posted by ConsiderThis (Post 145078)

Hi Mark, there's no research showing that B12 is damaging in high doses. That's because we excrete what our bodies don't use.

I had a pharmacist tell me to get a test to see if I had tetanus, and I did that and it caused so much trouble because there is not test to detect it, the test is to decided if you need a shot or not... but my doctor, after the results were in said the test showed I didn't have tetanus... which led to months of big fear and much pain, and I think that's why I'm still so debilitated today.

If you take notes on how the 5mg of methylcobalamin affect you, day to day, then you will be able to tell, in a few weeks as you look back, whether it has helped or not.

The stress of worrying about it may reduce the amount of it that gets to benefit you... please don't worry. Go to my site and read the research at the bottom of the page, that should be reassuring.

Are you in London, then? I lived on Sudeley Street by the Canal, near the Angel, and then on Goswell Road... which was a trip.

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Originally Posted by ConsiderThis (Post 145093)

Oh, I think the B complex works ... that's a good thing to think about, though.

I take a lot less B complex than B12, but I do indeed take a complex... but mainly because it gets rid of my allergies.

Hmmm. I don't know about the complex causing tingling... I would be more inclined to think that if you were able to take more methylcobalamin the tingling would go away (more rapidly).

You live in London? Wow.

I lived there for nine years. What a beautiful city. I mean, really beautiful.

:)

You don't happen to remember the name of that famous old judge, the chief judge at the Royal Courts of Justice, do you?

I've been trying to remember. I used to go and hear/watch him sometimes. And when the Sunday Times was there with Slater/Walker, the book they were doing the investigative journalism for, I got to eat lunch next to the head barrister who was trying to keep them from publishing, that was at Lincoln Inn.

But I bet you're too young to remember Slater Walker. :)

Originally Posted by Mark._. (Post 145105)

No sorry I don't remember the name of the judge. I think the tingling in my hands and feet and all my other symptoms are toxic related, im not sure if taking more than 5mg of b12 will make much difference, does b12 do much to improve your nervous system even if you are not b12 deficient?

Originally Posted by ConsiderThis (Post 145109)

What toxin?

I lived in hydrogen sulfide for a couple years and the neurologist I was seeing said that B12 couldn't help with that.

I sort of believed him.

But then when I had tetanus and I had SO MANY B12 shots because I didn't have anything else to help me, it made my peripheral neuropathy go away.

And now I don't bump into things the way I used to, and my memory is better. Not like it used to be, but it is better.

I would for sure take the higher dose of B12 if I were you, or if I had it to do over. I sure wish I hadn't believed that B12 couldn't help me recover from the hydrogen sulfide. (There were other toxins, too, from different things, but the hydrogen sulfide is probably indigative of all toxins that affect the nerves.)