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Old 10-06-2007, 02:31 PM #1
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I realize that it is both unnecessary and redundant to caution forum members about meds and SE's but I saw this info just recently and thought it is worth a post. If it's a post I missed then I apologize in advance for duplicative clutter but remember I'm old and I'm slow.

The link below is a pretty fair synopsis of the current state of affairs re: the FDA and Lilly re: the claims made for Cymbalta (Duloxetine) and nerve pain, specifically the effectiveness and the potential for SE's. I'm sure there are other links too and there probably will be follow-up to this in the future.

http://www.newsinferno.com/archives/1877#more-1877

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we always get new members and people that are new to the internet. this is a great post.
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Thank you for posting.

Lilly has done this repeatedly over the years.

1) Oraflex (concealed liver toxicity until many died--drug taken off the market)

2) Prozac--- studies concealed that severe agitation caused by Prozac was hidden by giving Valium during the studies. This agitation has been considered as the cause of violence and suicide that involved many innocent people.
During a class action trial, Lilly got together with the plaintiffs' attorneys and made a deal with them. If they did NOT bring up Oraflex malfeasance, Lilly would pay them anyway, if they lost. Which they did. The media reported that this trial was in favor of Lilly. But in reality the judge found out and he took this to the supreme court in his state and had it overturned. The media conveniently did not report on that. You figure that one out.

3) Zyprexa--- study physician shredded documents showing dangerous drug reactions to the drug during studies including death. (this was revealed on Cafepharma.com) Lilly continues to take the heat for Zyprexa and its link to diabetes which it knew and concealed from doctors and patients.

4) Cymbalta--- a normal study participant died by suicide on Lilly property during this trial, and they hushed it up. Also older females had high death suicide death rates when studied for Cymbalta and bladder dysfunction.

If you go to www.cafepharma.com and read the boards there, you can see what Lilly's own sales force thinks of the company. They call it WeLie Lilly
(for Eli Lilly).

I wouldn't believe anything Lilly says anymore. Their awful track record goes back more than 20 yrs.

Thanks for posting tho! It is always interesting to get the most recent dirt on the liars!
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Boy, that site is something else... I could hardly believe some of the postings various employees put up about their own companies... This gives trashing a whole new meaning...

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Red face yeah, Cathie...

Anyone looking for some new epithets to throw around, will find plenty
that the drug salespeople use...at that site. It can be a real eye opener. Sheesh!

I remember the old days, when drug salespeople were either pharmacists or doctors. The bar is now so low, they won't even hire pharmacists. I know a great guy who they would not even interview because he was a professional.
I think those days are gone, because pharmacists and doctors resisted lying to their colleagues!
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Well, I have noticed that you do have to have certain qualifications to be a drug rep these days, but they aren't educational or intellectual....
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