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I understand what you are saying, Mrs D. I myself am saving my money and sticking with my fish oil, carnitine, and CoQ10. If lipoid acid didn't lower my thyroid function, I'd be on that, also. I think, overall, I've gotten a lot of help from the straightforward supplements that we use here. But you did mention "membrane stabilization" and that reminded me of the lyme handouts.

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Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 474200)

I don't like products like this...
There is no list of amounts in the "proprietary blend"...so you don't know what you are getting.

The ingredients listed that DO have amounts given, are nothing special except for the pantethine which is vitamin B5 that is activated.
what pantethine may help:
http://www.wellnesstrader.com/herbal...thine-benefits

All of the other "active ingredients" are pretty low. I'd bet this is expensive too!
One can have mito damage from all those antibiotics? This is by far too low an amount of carnitine to be useful.

One can accomplish alot with Flax oil and fish oil and spend much less $$.

Nice graphic though, IMO.

LizaJane, thanks for the info. One of my clients manufactures a supplement with CoQ10 and lipoid acid. He's going to send me some samples for nothing and I'll give it a try. One never knows, but maybe I'll get lucky and it will help.

Jay

Cipro-neuro reaction

I just re-read this thread, and there's something left unfinished here. I mention in it several times that I had developed neuro symptoms on Cipro, and considered myself "allergic" to it, in a loose definition of the word allergic.

Well, now that I've been properly diagnosed with Lyme, my doctor tells me that I did NOT have a bad reaction to Cipro, per se; instead, what I had was a herxheimer reaction. Cipro was killing off the lyme bacteria and they were releasing toxins which made me neurologically ill, since these bacteria mainly live in nerve cells. Herxheimer reactions are very common when treating Lyme. He thinks it could have been a tip-off at the time.

Oh well. Better late than never with treatment....

Cipro has significant CNS neuro effects all its own.

Don't have to be allergic or have a "die-off"...Cipro and its family of fluoroquinolones can damage the brain, cause seizures, massive confusion in the elderly (less so in younger patients), and have NOTHING to do with Lyme.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin

Cipro and its cousins are not just antibiotics...they are toxic to many types of cells in mammalian bodies.

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Psychotic reactions, and confusional states, acute pancreatitis,[80] bone marrow depression, interstitial nephritis and hemolytic anemia may also occur during ciprofloxacin therapy.[81][82] Additional serious adverse reactions include temporary as well as permanent loss of vision,[83][84] irreversible double vision,[85] drug induced psychosis[86][87] and chorea (involuntary muscle movements),[88] impaired color vision, exanthema, abdominal pain, malaise, drug fever, dysaesthesia and eosinophilia.[89][90] Pseudotumor cerebri, commonly known as idiopathic intracranial hypertension (IIH), (also referred to as increased intracranial pressure), has been reported to occur as a serious adverse reaction to ciprofloxacin.[91]....The serious adverse effects that may occur as a result of ciprofloxacin therapy include irreversible peripheral neuropathy,[66][67] spontaneous tendon rupture and tendonitis,[68][69][70][71] acute liver failure or serious liver injury (Hepatitis),[72][73] QTc prolongation/torsades de pointes,[19] toxic epidermal necrolysis (TEN),[74][75][76] and Stevens-Johnson syndrome, severe central nervous system disorders (CNS)[77] and clostridium difficile associated disease (CDAD: Pseudomembranous colitis),[78][79] as well as photosensitivity/phototoxicity reactions.