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Old 11-21-2007, 04:11 PM #1
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BOY I REMEBER WHEN THIS HAPPENED,AND I BELIEVE THEY MADE A MOVIE,
ABOVE THE 2 DRS. OH GEZZ HOW SAD,ONCE AGAIN SO MANY HARMED.
hOPE PEOPLE SPEAK UP,BIG BREASTS ,SMALLER BREASTS ,EATING DISORDERS, ,STEROIDS ECT. SO ON READ BIGGEST RATE OF CANCER AT HOLLYWOOD HIGH SCHOOL WHY OIL RIGS,POLLUTED RIVERS..MY DAUGHTER
-IN LAW WAS GOING INTO RESEARCH,YOU GEY HIT BY OTHER DRS.
MED.COMPANIES,LAWERS..tHANK YOU FOR THIS.. SUE
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:33 PM #2
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My uncle, a very conservative doctor, now deceased, met Dr Patten years ago, before I even had symptoms, and immediately told me to get checked out neurologically. I had no idea at the time what he was talking about. They were both old men at the time, and it wasn't easy to earn my uncle's respect, especially with something as far-out as this was,so that his respect for Dr Patten was remarkable. Of course, I didn't believe him; I thought I was fine. As I developed joint aches and pains, muscle pains, frank neuropathy, dry eyes, immune rashes. I didn't believe anything was really wrong until I was very ill, in 1999. And despite all you've heard about my health issues since then, I know I'm much better than I would have been had I not had them out.
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Cathie,
Thanks for having the nerve to post this. I think it fans even further out than the breast implants. I have silicone in my knees with the knee replacements. Odd isn't it how I developed all these neurological symptoms and rheumatic symptoms and Sjogren's Syndrome in 3 months after replacements, isn't it..............

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Billye--

When you came on the board, what? 2000, 2001, I was incredulous about your knees. I remember asking you over and over if they had silicone in them, and I felt you totally blocked me out and ignored everything I was trying to tell you.

It didn't matter, I finally realized, because you couldn't exactly have your new knees removed and the old ones replaced.

I am stunned, knowing you as well as I've come to know you over the years, that it is just striking you now that you had silicone in your knees.

The study I post up here most frequently is one of medicare claims. It was a study to see if there were any particular illnesses reported on claim forms that occurred in people with implants. The answer was yes. Every sort of implant that contained silicone, including testicles, was associated with neuropathy.

And they are back on the market. I find myself at the hairdresser, trying to convince a woman who had them placed in a week ago to quick, get them out before you're ill. I try to tell everyone, but no one believes their danger, and they are becoming very popular again. It's incredible, just incredible.
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Oh My God.

I have been having problems with my knees and thought I would just get a shot of SOMETHING!!! Haven't done it yet.

Thank god I read these posts.

Now, when I'm ready to go and do something about my knees, I will know enough to ask "is there silicone in any of these injections".

Thanks so much for all this incredibly GOOD information!!

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Cathie,
Thanks for having the nerve to post this. I think it fans even further out than the breast implants. I have silicone in my knees with the knee replacements. Odd isn't it how I developed all these neurological symptoms and rheumatic symptoms and Sjogren's Syndrome in 3 months after replacements, isn't it..............

Billye
Yes, I recall those posts...and I remember making a connection then too.

It is unfortunate that the very treatment could lead to such horrible consequences!

Also I have been wondering how the knees are staying while other bones
are "going"....typically the artificial joint degrades too.

Our bodies don't like foreign things inside... and if one has a revved up immune system, one might be more at risk for the reactions.

I am so sorry all this is happening to you, Billye.

There might be a difference between liquid silicone and hard silicone. But I don't have time today to
search that.

There are also all kinds of chemicals in plastic. We are just getting new data on phythalates and cyanoacrylic (hard clear)
so even the saline implants may cause harm of a different nature.
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Default I knew, Liza Jane and Cathie

I knew Liza Jane, and Cathie,
I knew in the beginning that I had the silicone. But there was NO way to get rid of it. The knees are now part of the bone. I probably also have silicone in one finger where they did a joint replacement years ago. I was told it was a "rubber" sleeve. I also had a hernia repair done 30 years ago. The hernia was in the C-section scar that I have. They put "plastic" mesh in it to hold it. So I'm probably full of the stuff. I just knew I had no way to get rid of the foreign material. If I had the knees removed, I'd have fused legs with no way to bend my knees. The finger would not be so much of a problem. But the knees simply can't be removed once they have grown into the bone.

I never knew there was this problem before the knees were done and I had no choice about the replacements. I was walking on horribly swollen, red and painful knees. On crutches much of the time, in bad pain all of the time. Emergency room trips frequently to drain the knees.

I had no choice. But I know now that I simply traded one type of pain for another. This would likely not have happened if I had not had the autoimmune problems before. Autoimmune issues in the body are very tricky things. They make the body reject anything that is foreign. But I never knew this.

I hope by posting this it will allert someone else of my problem.

I am sorry Liza Jane, that I never conceded that this was an issue. I wasn't as smart then as I am now. Many hours spent at a computer on medical issues since then. But at the time I also knew there was nothing I could do about it.

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I am so sorry you are suffering like this, Billye. I would imagine though that the initial stimulation of the immune system came from the first exposure, which I assume was either the mesh used in the C Section, or the joint replacement in the finger. I wish that somehow we could help you. Somehow saying how sorry I am just doesn't seem to be enough...

I have had multiple problems with my ear rejecting little tubes placed in them. I don't know whether it is silicone causing this, per se, or it is the presence of ANY foreign material that fires up the immune system initially...

I shudder thinking of the many innocent kids who have these placed in their ears, some as young as babies with no free choice. I wonder how this could affect them later in life, perhaps after they have some type of surgery involving an implant, hernia repair or joint replacement... Will the secondary exposure be the catalyst that causes them to join the ranks of those affected by autoimmune disorders???

What is happening to those whose health issues are even remotely suspected to be implant linked, regardless of type, is criminal. Most doctors just turn a blind eye... No one of any importance will step up to the plate...

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