Thanks, Steve for that interesting information. I am also curious in knowing how the neurologist concluded it was from the levaquin. Is there a way to tell for sure, or is he just assuming?

Cipro is the least obnoxious
 

of the quinolones. It is not a once a day treatment either.

Levaquin and Avelox are once a day tablets. All of the ones recalled were
also once a day. In general with the exception of Zithromax, once a day
antibiotics tend to be more toxic. There was a once a day sulfonamide called Kynex by Lederle that was taken off the market many years ago.

Cipro still does cause the tendon ruptures however. And those typically happen after the drug is stopped, and months pass. Whatever it is doing takes time
to damage and for a while the ruptures were not connected to Cipro. But when a few doctors had that happen to themselves, it was finally admitted to.
It can happen 6mos after the treatment.

I have really tried to find out how this happens, but I have never seen the mechanism printed out anywhere. I suspect the PN damage is similar, not understood yet.
The fluoroquinolones are very active in the nervous system, so they are doing something there. Floxin was causing seizures for some patients. And the elderly are not recommended to use high doses of any quinolone for this reason.

I read somewhere the other day that all drugs starting with 'fl'; are either fluoride based or have a significant amount of fluoride in them. I haven't clarified this yet. Can anyone confirm or deny?

Also some theories abound that fluoride may be responsible for the underpinnings of conditions such as CFS/Fibromyalgia. Again I haven't pursued research on this - however I believe empirical evidence must be scarce on the ground - as it is still mandated for usage? :eek:

yes, fluoro--
 

means a fluoride is there.

Prozac is fluroxitine... and there are several articles on the net about
brain toxicity from fluoride and Prozac.

example:
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/...uorophenyl.htm

Since I last looked, there have been many articles added about fluoride affecting thyroid hormone levels. :yikes:

"Cipro still does cause the tendon ruptures however. And those typically happen after the drug is stopped, and months pass. Whatever it is doing takes time
to damage and for a while the ruptures were not connected to Cipro. But when a few doctors had that happen to themselves, it was finally admitted to.
It can happen 6mos after..."


Hmmm... Maybe if we had doctors acting as controls in drug testing, we would have a few less toxic medications and ultimately dangerous medical devices rushed to the market... I can think of a few I would like to nominate... :)

Cathie

I wonder if the FL drug referred to on a post is Flagyl (metronidazole). Flagyl is known to cause PN. It was also widely used in the treatment of Lyme. I don't know if it still is. I knew some folks who took huge doses of it.

I think with any drug it is dependent on your own individual blueprint for metabolism and also is dose dependent.

I can understand PN being irreversible, but I wonder if it is progressive from toxins once they are stopped. I imagine a case can be made that it remains static after discontinuation, or that is can be progressive.

It makes you think twice about treating Lyme with long term antibiotics. It is a catch 22.

I got sick on Cipro once and discontinued it after a few days. It made me goofy and ill. (Bad combo for me.)

I did take amitriptyline and found it the most disagreeable substance I ever took. Interesting IT is linked to PN.

I am beginning to wonder it the only thing one should stick in one's mouth is their thumb....or their foot. Both seem better natural alternatives.

Question for Mrsd
 

Relating to Levaquin.

Finished my first round of antibiotics for my brinchitis.
While we were away it kind of came back but more as a sinus/ear infection.

Doc put me on Levaquin. 5 days.

I am on day 4 and this morning I have tingling and pn like syptoms in right habd.

I have only one day more to take this. Should i call the doc?

I can't say...
 

Best to call the doctor. His advice depends on how informed he is, however.

Zithromax is a better choice. Also for sinus and ear, Cefzil works well.

Sometimes ear pain is just pressure and noninfected fluid. So an antibiotic
doesn't help that. Carefully inflating the eustachian tubes may help reduce fluid pressure. Drink alot of water and use guaifenesin in Robitussin or Mucinex may help get the congestion down.

To inflate the tubes, close off your nostrils and gently blow to pop your ears.
Do not do it hard, or if you feel pain.

biaxin works well for me with respitatory infections as well as zithromax, i would call the doctor.

I called the doc and they told me to stop the levaquin.

I have twice asked about the zithromax but PD did not prescribe.

Tomorrow morning I am going to the ENT doc. See what he says.

Ears still stuck

Thanks for advice.