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I wanted to know if anyone has had silicone after 2006 when the FDA approved them for use? I am curious if anyone has new implants and had problems shortly after. I had read that some people with other implants, nose, knees,etc. had problems a few months later. It seems that all the people that reply are people who had them years ago. Now days they say that the silicone won't run out and the platnum level is so low and the implant is three layers thick so you really don't have to worry about gel bleed or it migrating to any part of the body. If these "new" implants are still bad for your health than I would rather not do the surgery. It is just hard to decide because I am hearing what the people with the "old implants" are saying and I hear what people are saying about how great the "new" implants are. I have a allergic reation to something on my hands. Happens mostly in winter. I have to put a steroid cream on it to go away. It doesn't get bad really because I catch it right away. I don't know what I am allergic to. I had a skin biopsy to make sure it wasn't cancer and it was confirmed a reaction. Now if I had implants I probably would have blamed it on them. I think a doctor told me once that I have allergy cells in my blood. So I bet this isn't a good thing for someone considering implants to have.

[shiney sue]

There was some talk on that right around New Year,check the PN
forum a little bit ago. You should check with your dr.,but i'll bet
he will say everthing is ok,hmmm I wouldn't know..Sue

[bethtaylor]

Yes, there are women that are getting the 'newer' implants and are getting sick. Not everyone gets sick but a great deal of women do.

These implants are no different than the implants of before. They are just as dangerous. If you received your information about the platinum and the silicone not migrating, that is not correct. They all break down and if you are prone to allergic reactions, then I would highly suggest that you do not even think about getting these implants.

I had saline implants for 8 years and became totally disabled after 5 years. I was diagnosed with silicone poisoning. In my opinion there are no safe implants and the silicone that has been put back on the market is no different from before. They might be a little bit more cohesive but that is the only difference. When it comes to your health, please don't play russian roulette. I know that it is just not worth it.

You can meet women that have the newer implants here at . Also, this lady became ill immediately from the new implants.

Please do your research before having implants.

beth taylor

[dahlek]

implant/neuropathy connections/complications are? I surely would be interested to know about them, as would others who have not only breast implants but other implants...Also, the degree to which you feel that the implants have impacted your disabilities...HOW were these diagnosed? And what prompted all the diagnoses?
We all here, try to share our pain. That is a given, but, if one says IT's BAD with out any additional information....well it can be scary at the least, and, to reply is to reply in a VACUUM. There are many here who DO have a multitude of very 'scary' issues. I am one [and, my issues are minor compared to many], and I would like to know more about both your and 'Undecided's' conditions, vis-a-vis neuropathies, autoimmine and implants in a better coherent context. I cannot clearly plug you into papers, resources or papers that either support or discount any of your problems if I don't know the problems? I am not a doc...But I can tell you- and others here as well that there is a heap of research out there...The MINDS here -collective minds that is...are totally awesome...Folks here will go waay out of their own way to find the resources, info and help you need!
We just have to know what to look for? In more specifics?
Undecided, I do hope my PM helped you to some degree - let me know, please? If that resource isn't for you, I'm sure I can find another... - j

[shiney sue]

Ok I would like to know and i'm curious as well,but agree there are a lot of very sick people who may get scared. Remember there are many ways to get
PN and many different kinds.

I'm not judging anyone,I have been thinking about getting my nose fixed,
why to many sports when younger and do to PN I have fallen,it has nothing
to do with the way I look,just having a hard time breathing..

If you have a dignosis from your Dr.it might help make it clearer,,I not sure
I totally understand. For anybody who wants them,do it for yourself
after a lot of research,not because a man and or woman tell's you would
look better..If you have good research print it,those of you who would be afraid please ignorge..Me Has anybody had a serious problem with nose
surgery. I am not trying to be funny,ther's nothing funny about surgery.
Thanks J. Thanks to all Sue

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In Mentors information they say that they had no cases of migrated gel in their studies. They say that some gel stayed in the implant and some came out but stayed in the capsule. They will tell you that it is a possiblity but if you read their info. it seems that they contradict a lot of things and I take it as they just have to cover their butts so they don't end up getting sued like Dow-Cornning. This is why it is so hard to get the truth about these things. Just like I read somewhere that implants may affect the neurological pathways ways. When I search the interenet for more info. I can't find it. All I can find is the phrase "implants may affect the neurological pathways". I try to find out how and why but I can't. I want to try to understand all of this and find out more about neurological pathways. Just like PN, what exactly is it.

[bethtaylor]

I certainly didn't mean to scare anyone nor say that everyone on this forum that has implants with problems are related to the implants. I'm only saying that I had saline implants and had many problems.

I do think that the problem is that I posted again and added a few links but they were removed. If you google my name and breast implants, you will find my story and the forum I founded to help women with implant related disease. So I'm not a fake or some radical here trying to cause problems. This is very real and you will find the proof you need. The proof is not on the website of the manufacturers as they refuse to admit to problems but many of us are sick from these damn things.

As for my pain? That has improved quite a bit since I had the implants removed. However, I'm still ill. When I say ill, I have debilitating fatigue and I also have Fibro flares. The weather seems to make my lower legs ache and yes, it feels like bone pain. I have this in my lower legs although I was diagnosed by a two neurologists with PN in all extremeties. Prior to having the implants removed, I was in alot of pain. I used to sleep with my feet hanging off the side of the bed because the sheets alone hurt my feet. Walking was very difficult and at times I was in a wheelchair. The pain can be terrible. I'm very familiar with it but I have improved.

The proof I guess is that all this improved after having the implants removed. I'm still ill but have had some improvement. Great improvement with my PN and Fibro.

I know that MY problems were related to the implants because alot of my symptoms either improved or went away after I had the implants removed.

I cannot post links but like I said, if you do some googling, you will find the chemical list and the many stories from women that have become ill from implants.

Also, I'm not here to scare anyone. I am here because I came across this thread about implants and since I have been researching this issue for the last 3 years, I thought that I would be able to add some information here. Helpful information. Something that came too late for me.

[bethtaylor]

You can't believe everything that Mentor is saying. They are making millions and millions of dollars on these implants. Do you really think they would come out and say that the silicone will migrate? If they did, they would go out of business.

OMG, if you have seen the implants that I have. They are just completely disentegrated. I know women that have died from implants. I know women that have silicone in their brain and other organs. Mentor is not going to tell you that.

[dahlek]

Neruro Pathways...' Well, DUH? Excuse me, but that is implant 101? They have to cut nerves to put in the implant? Any BC surgeon will tell you that there can/likely/will be some nerve/sensitivity damage to that surgery site..Hey! They gotta cut!
Me? after having the PN pains all over for years told my surgeons to SEVER those nerves! Plain and simple, I did NOT want more pain related to nerves regrowing in such a 'tender' spot. My surgeon and PS are top notch, but those danged nerves are trying to 'regrow' as I write this...The pain of nerves regrowing is very similar to that of them dying...PAINFUL! Enuf, no more replies from me. - j

[bethtaylor]

Originally Posted by dahlek

Neruro Pathways...' Well, DUH? Excuse me, but that is implant 101? They have to cut nerves to put in the implant? Any BC surgeon will tell you that there can/likely/will be some nerve/sensitivity damage to that surgery site..Hey! They gotta cut!
Me? after having the PN pains all over for years told my surgeons to SEVER those nerves! Plain and simple, I did NOT want more pain related to nerves regrowing in such a 'tender' spot. My surgeon and PS are top notch, but those danged nerves are trying to 'regrow' as I write this...The pain of nerves regrowing is very similar to that of them dying...PAINFUL! Enuf, no more replies from me. - j

Yes, that is right but I was one that had no breast pain at all. NONE. So that is why I did not know the implants were making me ill. Everything hurt but my breasts. I kind of doubt that my implants could make my feet and shins ache because of a cut nerve in the breast but I do believe the chemicals affect us and can cause the other problems.

Some people are very sensitive to chemicals and that is why so many eat an organic diet. Those are the people that will most likely be affected by breast implants.