Personally, I would never be involved in any program that results in increased deaths at any level.

Mel
 

That was never go over 180 in weight and I was told that years ago.
I keep my suger level 120 and under,but don't want it down to
60..Sorry you have a cold it's bad then a little warm then a snowstorm

Oh Herb every time you go into the hospital,you sign a paper if there going
to do a lot of tests or sugery,that you know you might die..Or your kidney
stones ,heart trouble,hernia,infected ingrown toe nail just might not get
fixed. Just ask The med students or reident who spend the whole day
scaring old people. gezzzz. Hugs to all Sue

Thanks for clearing that up Sue:

I DO INDEED HAVE A COLD. I did not drink any liquids yesterday because Alan had the ivig and I was so busy keeping him hydrated that I forgot to keep myself hydrated.

I woke up sniffing and sneezing, and I said 'oh brother, I have a cold, oh well". I did not drink any liquids after breakfast, then I ate my soup for lunch, and AGAIN, DID NOT DRINK ANYTHING TILL 4:30, when I took my sugar and it was 248. Believe me, my sugar is NEVER 248. I then realized that I should have been rehydrating. I immediately drank a nice cup of green tea.

In 20 minutes my sugar went down to 185.

I shall be drinking tea or water as needed. I only hope I never forget to hydrate.

I am assuming that this is the reason for my reading of 248. I don't eat anything white or cake, or candy, or anything. and I've been having the same wonton egg drop soup for lunch for years. I love it and it's my guilty pleasure. It never impacts my sugar.

But today, well 4 hours after lunch, it rose to 248, then dipped back down.

Tomorrow is Cornell.

THAT SHOULD BE MOST INTERESTING!!

P.S. It's 7 p.m. just took (90 minutes after dinner), and it's 156.

I think I'll live after all!!

Oh, one interesting point.

Alan went to his podiatrist today and told him about the Cornell thing.
His doctor said: "yeah, I heard about this, and in my opinion, it's the people who have diabetes and who continue to smoke, these are the ones that have major problems and ultimately expire". So maybe the people in the intensive group were smokers??
Perhaps we shall never know. Alan asked his doctor "can I quote you on that, and he replied "Absolutely"

sugars go up
 

when you have an infection, Mel. This is typical.

Yeah, that's what I said to myself "sugars go up when you have an infection".

Now here is where I get confused.

I have an infection??? Where do I have an infection?? I thought I just had a cold, which is caused by the Rhinovirus that gets into your nose and then you get a cold.

See, I watch the Discovery channel all the time (lol).

So is this to mean, that when a body gets a virus, a bacteria, or ANYTHING?, this means AN INFECTION??

And then the body puts out it's antibodies to FIGHT THE INFECTION.

I've been using the Zycam swabs. They did wonders for me the last time I caught a cold. Shorted the duration and I wasn't that bad.

So I just want to understand the word INFECTION in the body. OH, and here's a really good question. Does this ONLY HAPPEN TO DIABETICS, or to non-diabetics too??

Thanks much

Melody

infection means STRESS...
 

The body responds to stress by making more steroid hormones, one action of which is to raise blood sugar.

A cold is a virus, but you also get secondary infections when the cold ends.
The viral part is only a couple of days long, the rest is infection from bacteria
that live in you all the time. The body makes antibodies and white cells and this takes energy.

Your sugar elevation is mild. I know a non-diabetic who went up to 800 with the flu!

Mrs. D.

I do not KNOW WHAT I WOULD DO WITHOUT YOUR BRAIN, YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR HELP!!!

I just came back from Cornell (I wrote about today, under the thead "Nutritional wasting with Diabetes).

They explained about what having a cold does to the body and the doctor told me exactly what you just told me about viruses and bacteria, etc.

What do I need Cornell for?? I have Mrs. Doubtfire.... lol

And the info about the non-diabetic person who got a sugar reading of 800, well that alone blew me away.

You see, I never knew that non-diabetics could have elevated glucose readings FOR ANY REASON. I now have learned something new today.

I thank you soooo much.

A tip and it is annoying but will give it to you. I am suppose to set my cell phone to go off every hour to remind me to drink my water 8-24 ounces of water. I am sorry you have a cold. Plenty of vitamin c I think and jewish penicillin aka chicken noodle soup.

Yeah, I'm going to make a nice cup of green tea when I get off the computer. I'm so used to not putting anything in my mouth after 7 p.m. that I forget to drink.

They were surprised (at Cornell I mean), that I'm not up peeing all night. They asked me. "How many times do you get up in the middle of the night?" I answered "Once". They said "that's it??" I said "yeah why" but I didn't get an answer. I had to fill out a "feeling temperature" I think it was called.

It's a chart with a thermometer on it. One of the guys said 'what is the number of your pain level". (Today my back and joints were killing me). So I laughed and said "I have degenerative joint disease, mark me as 70". So he did.

Never heard of feeling themometers.

I filled out pages and pages of questions of how do I feel, do I have bad feelings about myself. Do I have depression, blah blah.

I answered them all. Hey it's a study, and someone has to read these right??

Oh, I met a woman who was waiting for the access-a-ride. She was sitting there on the stoop smoking a cigarette. She said "I have brain lesions". and I said 'you have MS??" and she said "that's what they thought, then they thought I had Alzheimers because I forget stuff". "Then I remembered that I had a traumatic brain injury when I was a kid, so these lesions are from the brain injury". I said 'oh you poor thing"

Then she said "I'm wearing a pump" and I said "an insulin pump??" and she said "no, a pain pump". I said 'you have pain in your brain, and they gave you a pump??" And she said "no, I have pain in my body, my arms and my legs"

I felt really bad. She said "I'm only 48 years old and I can't work any more and I need this medicine but medicare won't cover it".

I found out she had the medtronic pump (the older kind), inplanted in her.

I said "then you don't go to the bathroom do you"? She said "oh my god, how did you know"?. I explained that my husband used to be on the Fentanyl patch.

She said she had just started smoking again. She couldn't help it.

To be honest, I just said (to myself), Oh my god, some people have such misery in their life. I just wished her well and said she would be in my prayers. And she was.

I'll tell you, with all the people coming in and out of Cornell, well, I started to count whatever blessings I had.

Jury's still out
 

I have no answers but I thought I'd post a link to the nearly completed Australian ADVANCE study which also enrolled 10K+ type II diabetic patients like the ACCORD study. The mortality results between the two studies differ considerably, i.e. the ADVANCE study did not see the same link between agressive treatment and death so there is general agreement among the clinicians that the two studies will need to be compared critically to assess the reasons for the outcomes. In the interim the Australian Docs were going to continue treating their patients as before.
One of the ACCORD study directors herself noted that the results could be related to the meds each patient was using at the time - an issue that has been repeatedly pointed out on this forum and others like it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marke...0080213?rpc=44

"There are some differences between the ACCORD and the ADVANCE studies. We will need to communicate about the data with each other to understand what those differences are," Dr. Denise Simons-Morton, project officer for ACCORD at NHLBI, said in a telephone interview.
"The data I would like to see are exactly what drugs people were on, what were the mortality rates ..." she said.

Alkymst