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Old 02-19-2008, 06:28 PM #31
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Those chicken poo plant pots were invented here.....pity I didn't think of it....I just held my nose.

I'll tell ya, you can sell anything!
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can be, and IS pungent at times? More so at some than others...
But that bird poo? Well, it can be VERY SO. Not that other creatures' poos arent' less or more- maybe it's a matter of taste...I think not..merely "POOO" tolerances. Of course, any 'composted' poo's are far more tolerable, in any world?
I think the whole POO pot thing is a re-enterpretation of what compost is all about? For profit. Not a silly idea at all! Besides, they do work. Who can ask for more?
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I live in Boulder Colorado. Many of the citizens here are very health concious. We have several organic and vegetarian resaurants. There are several organic stores and the number is growing. The most successful Whole Foods store is in Boulder, but much of what they sell is not organic. The supermarkets carry organic fruits and vegetables. We can also find frozen organic meals, but they are not too tasty. There are two farmers markets here and a new one will open in the Spring

We do most of our shopping at a store ccalled vitamin cottage. It is a chain in the area. All of its fruits and vegetables are organic. Since I am a gluten and dairy free diet, there often is nothing in the house to eat, so I go out and contaminate myself with restaurant food.

It is a challenge to stay organic or gluten and dairy free, but it is interesting to shop and find foods that are OK.
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Boulder IS the organic eater's heaven, or at the least the 'transitional' or 'natural' capital of the US. You guys have food there I can not pronounce, and when I visit my daughter always gets me to eat some new 'adventure'.

I don't think you can really be truly organic....if I am buying organic, I try to get Oregon Tilth certified...otherwise you really don't know. I can only afford so much Oregon Tilth certified stuff.

I grow stuff, but it 'organicity' is questionable, but, at least I have a rough idea what went into it...'rough idea'....

And, yes, I still pollute myself with McSomethings and God knows what else.....Lots of days, cooking is not in the picture....I have more home grown canned stuff in the basement and pantry than energy to cook it. I must have had a gamma ray burst of energy last summer to do that amount of work---and now perhaps I am paying the price for all that manual labor.

I run out of energy to drink water some days let alone cook....I used to have a lot more energy to go chasing chickens.....

What you do have in Boulder that I would gnaw off my arm for is 300 days of sunshine compared to my 100!!! That would be therapeutic!!
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Today I went shopping (to stock up because Alan has his surgery on Thursday).

I bought a package of Dole ORGANIC hearts of Romaine.

Now is this really Organic?? Or did they just call it that?
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I live in Georgia. The people here can't even spell organic. It's at the opposite end of the scale from Boulder. I am doomed in the food department.
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The kids in Colunbia Mo. ate 12 hundred lbs.of that meat,they have
put aside 6 hundred lbs. aside to see what the want to do with it..

Susan I just love parts of GA,as you can see from the above we may
be far from Boulder Co. But you all have those great Valdalia,Onions.
Be proud Susan,and your tomatoe's are pretty good to..

C going to be below zero tommorrow maybe they can leave the
meat outside..They Also said we ,or Mo. has the leading case of
flu,and I have to go to the hospital,for a few hrs. and i'm so hungry
I'm going to get the flu,no matter how positive I think. Sue
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We live in the world of convenience and what tastes good. The meat issue is unreal. I do feel though quality of food is lower cause people buy it. When you pass by a McDonalds there is always a line through the drive threw. Most of those people are not getting salads. People who feel fine tend to not worry until it happens. Before I got this I never thought about these issue but now though still too junky in food choices it does make me stop and think about my choices. Really trying harder to be healthy in ways I can.
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Who certified your lettuce? It is unlikely grown in the US at this time of year....unless grown in a greenhouse.

That 'Oregon Tilth' is a certification. Anything 'Oregon Tilth' certified is likely pretty good stuff. See below

http://www.tilth.org/

If you search for 'Oregon Tilth' companies that sell their products will come up on the pages.

USDA also certifies, but, well they certify a lot of things and like this hot lunch meat recalled stuff.

I don't like to plug any specific products but if you PM me, I will let you know what milk, cheese and yogurt I get organic, and trust.

Also remember Organic food still needs washing....organic means poo is used...wash all food very well, especially leaf lettuces. Head lettuces are actually less prone to get E. Coli in the inner leaves....Leaf lettuce, which I love is more prone to E. Coli, as is spinach, because all leaves are exposed versus head lettuce where only the exterior leaves are exposed.

Here is one on international organic certification, but I don't know as much about this one as Oregon Tilth.

http://www.ocia.org/

Maybe some one on here is more knowledgeable about organic certs. I mostly know the Oregon Tilth as I wanted to try to get half an acre to an acre certified for that.

Oh, I also grow my own Asparagus...Mel, you like that stuff right?? In 2 more years I should have quite a bit of it, LOL....I planted it in 'black dirt' just like they said. I have had some really good luck with asparagus and raspberries in the past in this neck of the (non)woods...
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Sue, you are the weather prognosticator! -10 to -20 actual temp...no idea what the windchill we be.

I suppose that shoots my idea to watch the lunar eclipse...unless we get quite creative with the clothing.

I just got back from the vet....'bony dog' (chocolate lab) needed his nails clipped and he nips....so I have to get him knocked out....he was so funny....after the general wore of, he was still quite 'high' from the sedative and pain medication they gave him first...they thought maybe he would be mellow enough to allow some one to fool with his feet just on that....not. (He must be like me--hard to put under.)

So they had to put him under all the way, then he didn't want to get up....he was comfy. Finally got him stirred up enough to get him in the car. He weighs 75 pounds I couldn't carry him so he had to wobble to the car. His feet seemed oblivious to the cold...he is 'singing' in the bathroom right now, where he is confined with his bed.

He has to stay in there until he wakes up more, because the other dogs want to play and jump on him and he is 'disinhibited', due to the drugs, which means, not in the mood to play and more likely to nip. Dogs get 'disinhibited' under the influence of mellowing drugs, and are more likely to bite....unlike humans who are more affable, and less likely to bite. Dogs are less social and people usually more social. Dogs can take valium but it makes them more likely to bite. Interesting?!

My largest beast had a bowel issue that night that necessitated him being let out at least 15 times after we were in bed. Hubby took the first shift of the night and I took over at 2am. I hope his issue is over...it seems to be. If that darn dog would stop eating whatever he sees, he would be fine. I have no idea what caused his latest distress, I am not missing anything, but I am very tired.....I suppose I could get 'disinhibited' enough from lack of sleep to bite.

BTW they had 'organic' meat you could order for your dog. I can't afford it for me, let alone my dogs.

Anyway, Sue, if you guys stop sending those nasty weather fronts this way, maybe we could warm up a titch? Can you conjure up some fair weather dance or spell??

Oh, Sue, my daughter has the 'new flu' and she is very, very sick and she is an extremely healthy young person....be really careful of exposure. My daughter would never call in sick to work for serveral days, but she is bedridden. She was so sick her roomie had to drive her to the doc. She is so sick they had to give her tamiflu, prescription pain meds and albuterol....she is sicker than the 'proverbial' dog. She lives in CO. This is a really bad flu bug.
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