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Old 06-07-2008, 09:44 AM #1
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Default ME/CFIDS a likely diagnosis!

It's been awhile since I've posted here.

In the intervening time I have been fast coming to the conclusion that my diagnosis is what I feared most; not because it is a death sentence but because of medical scepticism about it's very existance. Of course the condition is ME/CFIDS/CFS/FM (which basically is an umbrella term for a cluster of documented specific symptoms with a possible number of causes, for which at this stage, there is still no laboratory proof).

One very interesting thing (among many) about ME/CFIDS is that in the supporting literature it is often called among other things, a neurological condition, ....yet...

......not once in my search of algorithms and medical papers outlining various neurological disorders and causes of peripheral neuropathy did I find any whiff of a reference to ME/CFIDS. Yet burning, tingling and abnormal peripheral sensation can be a symptom, as can fasciculations (muscle twitches). Nor too did either of the neurologists I had consultations with, after hearing my long list of symptoms, ever allude to the fact or suggest that what I may have could be ME/CFIDS as the cause.

It's quite unbelievable to me that these supposedly learned people do not even consider or have the intellectual integrity to look at the whole picture and include this scenario as a possibility. They must see numbers of people who fit this profile and are sent away empty.

I have recently sought out a doctor who has some experience with ME/CFIDS and he believes that the 23 symptoms that I have been experiencing for the past 10-12 months do fit within the documented guidelines of this elusive condition. He is now eliminating (among other things) possible causative agent antibodies which may have stimulated a heightened/lowered immune response - like Ross River Fever, Q Fever, Murray Valley Fever, mycoplasma, psitticosis, legionella etc etc.

Regardless of testing outcomes it is heartening to know that my symptoms are being validated by someone who is listening and seems to understand - at last!

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ME/CFIDS (?)
First time I've ever run across it.
Never heard of it, before.
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Hugs to you. Hope you can find solutions now.
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I just googled and spent the last 90 minutes or so reading about this disease/disorder . . . and all I can say is I want to give you a huge cyber-hug and hope that amidst this personal hell-type of waxing and waning existence, I hope that you are allowed some real, sparkling gems of experiences to make up for the struggle each day must bring. I hope you are able to find and maintain the most effective equilibrium for your particular experience with this disabling disease, and that the stream of humanity that flows by your life includes some incredibly wonderful and sensitive people along the way.

And having just learned about this, I hope I become even more sensitive and able to interact with those who function at levels and in ways I have never imagined.
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Default Hey Bob B. are you...

being facetious? (that kind of means - just kidding)!!!! You have to be kidding me!

....or have you really never ever heard of ME/CFIDS before?
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I just googled it.

Here you go. They have a whole website on it.

http://wwcoco.com/cfids/what.html
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Megan,
This disease was the first thing I was diagnosed with about 20 years ago. I struggled for almost 15 years before being diagnosed with seronegative Sjogren's Syndrome ( with neurological complications) and seronegative Rheumatoid Arthritis. I was very lucky to find a doctor who believed in my symptoms and treated me in various ways for years before finally diagnosing the Sjogren's Syndrome.

It took me another couple of years to get proof and the diagnosis that Sjogren's Syndrome was causing the neurological symptoms I have.

I hope your doctor will also consider these two diseases also with his testing. They can both lie dormant in your system, coming and going with remissions. Mine did. I tested positive for Chronic Epstein-Barr also.

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Default Part of the problem with the whole "Chronic Fatigue" parardigm--

--especially from the historical perspective--is that people with many, many different kinds of symptoms were being lumped together under that diagnosis without them showing much commonlity at all on laboratory or other testing, so that the diagnostic category began to be looked at askance in medical circles, in much the same way "fibromyalgia" currently is.

For instance, for a long time, many people thought that one of the hallmarks of the chronic fatigue constellation was a re-activation of Epstein-Barr virus, as evidenced by various antibody titres. But some well-designed research showed that a large number of people who showed such "EBV re-activation" were not experiencing the symptomology of chronic fatigue, while many people WITHOUT such titre evidence were experiencing it. This certainly muddied the waters.

Recent thinking in this realm, by the way, involves a closer look at human herpes viruses 6 and 8 as underlying factors (Epstein Barr is human herpes virus 4--and all human herpes viruses are "immortalized" in the body after initial infection, waiting for an opportunity to reassert).

There is, evidently, SOMETHING going on with peiople who have symptoms of crushing fatigue, muscle and nerve pain, and the like. But there's yet to be a real "smoking gun" type of clinical/laboratory correlation that doctors can point to, and that has kept many from thinking it's a "real" condition. (My suspicion is that we're going to find that environmental toxicity/mitochondrial effects are a big factor here, as we unravel the human genome.)

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Lightbulb I found a couple other good sites too:

http://www.ahummingbirdsguide.com/

http://www.cfids-me.org/marys/essays.html

I hope your new doctor gives you some relief!
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being facetious? .......or have you really never ever heard of ME/CFIDS before?
Nope!
Never did. Sorry.
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