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Old 07-11-2008, 10:43 AM #11
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Yes, it is the epi in the novacaine that causes the heart reaction - its life threatening - I pass out cold (I'm already on a beta blocker to control the heart symtoms) - and the docs said it could kill me if I get it again....... but I do have a heart electrical conduction problem and that contributes.... I have to use local anesthesia at the dentist with no epi which unfortunately wears off and repeated shots have no more effect then water - so have to go under a general for many things....

My patch had a sticky outside - probaby different manufacturer?????

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Yes, it is the epi in the novacaine that causes the heart reaction - its life threatening - I pass out cold - and the docs said it could kill me if I get it again....... but I do have a heart electrical conduction problem and that contributes.... I have to use local anesthesia at the dentist with no epi which unfortunately wears off and repeated shots have no more effect then water - so have to go under a general for many things....

My patch had a sticky outside - probaby different manufacturer?????
I think you had another drug entirely, kmeb. There is only one Lidoderm patch. The Lidoderms are covered with a soft white moleskin material, very unlike other patches of other drugs. I have not seen a generic yet, and it is not listed as a generic at the FDA orange book.

The side effects you describe fit fentanyl --esp the sweating.
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Hi Mrs D (again!) if they did give me fentenyl that would explain it (I dont hve the patches any more - this was couple years ago) - but I cant touch any type of opiate/narcotic (I'm a doctors nightmare when it comes to meds) - I wish I had known - I'd have killed them - they knew better!
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I have started to react to Band-Aids so maybe it is the adhesive in the patches that is burning my skin.Band-aids just started to burn my skin now. I wonder if that is a symptom of neuropathy? Good idea Ms. D about cleaning the skin well before using as I have not been doing that.
A little concerned about systemic reactions I think my lips get darker and now they are starting to burn.
I hate to stop using them as they usually help or stop the pins and needles in my feet so I can sleep. I'm careful not to leave them on to long.
I can't seem to find any meds that help me more than they hurt me except the xanax . However my doctor hates xanax. I have some vicodin and ultram but they keep me wide awake, make me real irritable and way to talkative.
I've never had much luck with meds even before the neuropathy started this year.
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I have started to react to Band-Aids so maybe it is the adhesive in the patches that is burning my skin.Band-aids just started to burn my skin now. I wonder if that is a symptom of neuropathy? Good idea Ms. D about cleaning the skin well before using as I have not been doing that.
A little concerned about systemic reactions I think my lips get darker and now they are starting to burn.
I hate to stop using them as they usually help or stop the pins and needles in my feet so I can sleep. I'm careful not to leave them on to long.
I can't seem to find any meds that help me more than they hurt me except the xanax . However my doctor hates xanax. I have some vicodin and ultram but they keep me wide awake, make me real irritable and way to talkative.
I've never had much luck with meds even before the neuropathy started this year.
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Have you ever tried Tramadol for the burning and other N. symptoms? Opiate based drugs do nothing for me. Tramadol was a godsend. It mutes the symptoms wonderfully.
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Lightbulb sometimes skin rashes...

are self limiting. That is, they may go away, and not
generalize to other areas of the body.

If you put Hydrocortisone on it for a while ( a few days) and let it rest, you could retest the area with a small strip of Lidoderm in about 2 months and see if the rash comes back.
Sometimes the rashes don't come back.

Also you want to make sure your skin is healthy to begin with.
Adequate amounts of zinc daily, and EFAs, etc.
There is a good skin vitamin by Carlson called
ACEs. Skin that does not have enough fatty acids, is broken and easily irritated.

I have an EFA thread on the vitamin forum:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread6092.html
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Have you ever tried Tramadol.........
She mentioned she tried Ultram and said:
"I have some vicodin and ultram but they keep me wide awake, make me real irritable and way to talkative."
Tramadol is the generic for Ultram. I take it and think it is a wonderful med, coupled with Lyrica (Pregabalin) or Gabapentin (Neurontin).
It helps me, considerably.
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I'm sure all of you know that neuropathy can be a side effect of Ultram. I had taken it for 10 years for pain management of another problem and have wondered if it did not cause my neuropathy. I'll never know. Almost weekly another drug is black boxed for serious side effects. This week its Cipro (ant-biotic) which is causing Achilles rupture or tendinitis. Who would think a anti-biotic could cause a tendon rupture ! That's a permanently crippling problem.
I believe some day we'll find that many of the recent huge increase in some disease are due to toxins, in our food, drugs, air and of course water.( neurological illnesses , ADHD, autism Etc.) Our fish have such high levels of mercury in them now that there are severe restrictions on how much fish to eat. Did you know it has long been common to add arsenic to chicken feed. I belong to a list serve for organic farmers and they have so much trouble finding "clean" feed for their animals,Same for all farmed fish, contaminated fish feed.
Just venting my frustration about medication and of course the new black box warnings about suicide for Lyrica and Neurotin.
Morphine derivatives have been around a long time yet the American doctors are so restricted in prescribing them because of addiction possibilities. Thats what we're told but the truth is drug companies make huge amounts of money on all the new drugs. The old standbys pay them nothing. Our health care is run by the drug companies not our doctors. See todays NYtimes for more evidence.
So I'm trying to do this without many drugs as besides the above my reactions to these drugs is as unsettling as the illness.
My work is intellectual, I must be alert. I want to be alert and aware.
Now you can see why my doc's are tired of me.
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