[Adastra]

Please read this article because it will affect us all if the FDA gets its way. I am at a loss to understand why the people in charge of world health wish to destroy the individual's wish - and right - to decide to help his/her health by taking vitamins and supplements. I guess though, it has to do with the usual corrupt big business of the pharmaceutical companies.
http://www.anhcampaign.org/node/2558...m_medium=email

Tony

[dahlek]

The FDA claims ZERO tolerance on some things and yet 'allows' some things a pass...then wants to try and 'control' more? DUH? [And, I used to work for the gummint!] [That melamine thing in baby forumlas]
It would be harder to find the root motivation for such attempts at control... is it the result of the 'medical' field, the 'pharmaceutical' field' or who? Someone stands to gain a heap of money from the acquiring of control of such an area.... That is likely the source of this foofery.
Even our own Dept. of Agriculture can't protect produces and meats from contaminations. They keep becoming a lower priority to 'other issues' nationally and usually rightfully so, and it's been that way for over 25 years. All the while the testings and scopes of what needs to be tested become more and more complex.
I have to ask one and all? Can you find canned mushrooms that are GROWN and PACKAGED in our country? When we are the worlds largest fresh mushroom producers in the world? Something is wrong with the vitamin thing and with a whole lot else. Sigh.
Tony...it's a valid and sane set of points you raise. Yep, I got off on a tangent, but it is relevant in that so much of all this doesn't make sense unless you look at it from some particular greed viewpoint, and we, the people, who use and need supplements suffer for the long run. Unless we speak up somehow. Next is to learn all the hows.
Best always - j

[cyclelops]

I don't think the new Congress will let this thru. This may be one of those little laws getting put in by the outgoing administration and hopefully if it goes thru, it will be negated by the new administration.

Greed makes the world go round. It is sad.

My daughter is an environmental science engineer (MS), you would be sick if you knew what was out there. I know enough to make me not want to eat.

My big concerns are that drugs and nutraceuticals are being made in third world countries, with no environmental controls on even water quality.

It is sad when we, as grandparents to be, are searching for glass baby bottles, because we have poisoned many infants with bisphenols in plastics. (Yes, daughter in law is breast feeding but you still need some bottles.)

Our current administration has opposed the COOL, Country of Origin Labeling laws.

I don't know what to tell urban dwellers, other than use natural food stores. (Hard I know, given we have entered a 'recession', and I use that term loosely.)

I have tons of beta carotene in my basement....in the form of squash. I can't eat it all. I will convince my husband to raise chickens this spring. I am fed up with the FDA, the CDC and the Federal Reserve.

I wish I felt like eating something more healthy than peanut butter bells right now.

[Adastra]

My worry is that from the European experience and the legal fight ANH is having, both the World Health Organisation and the Food and Agriculture Organisation (to which we all belong) which have produced Codex Alimentarius,the new US administration will have no powers to overturn any of their rulings. It would seem that in the future we will all have to eat and drink whatever Codex tells us to and in whatever quantities they decide are “best” for us. This may sound alarmist and that is because it is.


Tony

[MelodyL]

Originally Posted by cyclelops

I don't think the new Congress will let this thru. This may be one of those little laws getting put in by the outgoing administration and hopefully if it goes thru, it will be negated by the new administration.

Greed makes the world go round. It is sad.

My daughter is an environmental science engineer (MS), you would be sick if you knew what was out there. I know enough to make me not want to eat.

My big concerns are that drugs and nutraceuticals are being made in third world countries, with no environmental controls on even water quality.

It is sad when we, as grandparents to be, are searching for glass baby bottles, because we have poisoned many infants with bisphenols in plastics. (Yes, daughter in law is breast feeding but you still need some bottles.)

Our current administration has opposed the COOL, Country of Origin Labeling laws.

I don't know what to tell urban dwellers, other than use natural food stores. (Hard I know, given we have entered a 'recession', and I use that term loosely.)

I have tons of beta carotene in my basement....in the form of squash. I can't eat it all. I will convince my husband to raise chickens this spring. I am fed up with the FDA, the CDC and the Federal Reserve.

I wish I felt like eating something more healthy than peanut butter bells right now.

Hi Cyclelops:
I am now more thrilled than ever to have 5 batches of various kinds of sprouts growing in my kitchen.

tonight, I added them to my veggie patties and Alan was in sprout heaven. I put them in my salads every day. They are organic seeds, and the sprouts are grown right in my kitchen. Feels marvelous to be able to eat what I have actually grown.

I'm heading more and more to becoming a vegetarian. I've eaten my last chicken. Tonight I made chipotle tofu and let me tell you. IT WAS DELICIOUS.

And after reading that the FDA wants to be in control of our vitamins and supplements (while still allowing Tobacco to be grown), well, I'm just happy that today I bought another bottle of my Methyl B-12 from iherb.com.

Take care,
Melody

[MelodyL]

I just read this paragraph from that link:

"There will be no shortage of big corporations that will exploit this situation to their benefit unless the scope of Section 301 is both clarified and narrowed”, commented Gretchen DuBeau, “one such company is already trying to use it to ban the natural zero-caloric sweetener stevia, given that stevia has been subject to scientific research and has been a thorn in the side of the sugar and artificial sweetener giants for years.”

I'll bet it's Monsanto (the people who make Nutrasweet). I use Stevia. And now they are putting it in products and they are calling it Truvia. And they want to ban this??

Good grief.

There won't be anything left.

[nide44]

We gotta write to Obama about this.
Make him aware that we are a needy group for these supplements, and tell him how wrong this is.
The incoming admin. has to right a LOT
of 8 yrs of Bush wrongs.

[cyclelops]

Mel,

In Madison WI, you can raise chickens in town. I suppose that is why it is called Mad City. Organic chicken is a possibility. I think beef is trickier, because grass fed are exposed to prions from deer. They have now stated that deer ingest prions and that is how chronic wasting disease is caused......'they' say that this is not the bovine transmissible spongiform encephalopathy, but, I wonder, because, the down cows back in the 50's were fed to mink in the mink farms and voila, mink had mad cow. Even organic beef and milk would conceivably be exposed to prions. Blows my mind.

I think organic chicken is a safe bet. Raising your own is a huge endeavor....gotta see if I am up for it.

I know folks that eat nothing but this incredibly pure food, and use veggie milks, such as rice, or soy milks....I can't do that....I can't keep up with the work of that kind of diet.

Apparently I tore my rotator cuff, don't know how bad this will set me back now.

Back to Tony's concerns.....I don't want to hijack the thread.

There needs to be some quality control for nutraceuticals, however, this thing Tony brings up seems like a double bind.

[Adastra]

I have been using Stevia for 3 years and think it is a great substitute for sugar.
The following wikipedia site offers an interesting insight to the current development of this ancient natural compound. Who's for Coke and Pepsi? especially if they are diabetic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia

Tony

[MelodyL]

Originally Posted by Adastra

I have been using Stevia for 3 years and think it is a great substitute for sugar.
The following wikipedia site offers an interesting insight to the current development of this ancient natural compound. Who's for Coke and Pepsi? especially if they are diabetic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia

Tony

I gave up carbonated stuff a long time ago. I couldn't stand the burping. But I drink the Crystal Light (with the splenda). And I CAN'T WAIT till they start putting Stevia, or Truvia or WHATEVER, in some non-carbonated drinks.

I'll just add my benefiber and I'm good to GO!!!

lol

Melody