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Nervous 10-03-2012 10:51 AM

^^I'm doing all this already.

Note: My biotin comes from my multi-vitamin. It offers 600 mcg. Is that a good dosage?

Thanks, mrsD.

mrsD 10-03-2012 11:08 AM

This is the one I take. I started at two, and now take one mostly, always at night.
http://www.puritan.com/biotin-421/su...000-mcg-029634

This is because I take the R-lipoic acid stabilized during the day.

When these are gone, I'll be doing the 7,500mcg one at night.

I feel better this high dose. There is no upper limit on biotin.(like B12 shares this trait).

I think I posted about this not too long ago.

Steven N 10-08-2012 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 772636)
Glutathione does not work by mouth...it is destroyed in the stomach.

Supplements to encourage the body to make more are the way to go. n-acetyl cysteine is one--abbreviated as NAC. This is not expensive either.

The person on Dr. Cohen's website went to a holistic doctor and had IV infusions containing glutathione, and that way it improved his fluoroquinolone induced mito damage and his PN.

http://medicationsense.com/articles/...ity070508.html

Glutathione is made in the liver.

Here is a more complete article on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione

Mrs. D,
Do you know anyone who has had glutatione transfusion? I'm thinking of looking into it. I believe my mitochondria will improve with my current regimen, but the idea of speeding up the process is intriguing; why not skip 2 years of pain and tingling; if you can.
Regards,
Steven

mrsD 10-08-2012 02:37 PM

I knew two people a while back at home here who had IV
cocktails, including glutathione with other vits and minerals.

Both said they felt better.

But since then more and more compounding pharmacy problems are surfacing...so those mixtures which are custom made carry risks like the thing going on today-the contaminated steroid intrathecal injections. You can stimulate glutathione by assuring good zinc intake and trying to use the precursor orally, which is N-A-C --n-acetyl cysteine.

Sallysblooms 10-08-2012 03:07 PM

Yes, I use NAC, selenium and zinc. Bringing the level up. Also Liposomal Glutathione.

mrsD 10-08-2012 03:17 PM

Oh, Sally, thank you. I forgot about the liposomal Glutathione.

Still not sure it will be absorbed, but probably at least some.

Sallysblooms 10-08-2012 03:39 PM

Yes, liposomal gives you a good chance of absorption, not perfect. I just like to cover all bases. Glutathione is SO important for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and everything else.:)

Nervous 10-08-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 920879)
I knew two people a while back at home here who had IV
cocktails, including glutathione with other vits and minerals.

Both said they felt better.

But since then more and more compounding pharmacy problems are surfacing...so those mixtures which are custom made carry risks like the thing going on today-the contaminated steroid intrathecal injections. You can stimulate glutathione by assuring good zinc intake and trying to use the precursor orally, which is N-A-C --n-acetyl cysteine.


Just wondering about doses for the zinc and the N-A-C. Also, any risks with N-A-C?

Thanks!

mrsD 10-09-2012 06:44 AM

Most people have adequate zinc. It might be a good idea to get
a blood test. Some drugs however, deplete zinc, and the ACE inhibitors are the mostly commonly used. Acid blocking drugs also are thought to affect zinc absorption. Vegans may become low in zinc over time, because of the phytate content of vegetables hinders absorption. If you are low in zinc the typical dose would be one OptiZinc a day or every other day.
Zinc is sometimes used to treat hair loss, especially in patients taking anti-seizure drugs.

NAC's most common side effect is a rash that some people get, but not all.

This monograph gives dosing for NAC:
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple...TYL%20CYSTEINE

Steven N 10-09-2012 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 921049)
Most people have adequate zinc. It might be a good idea to get
a blood test. Some drugs however, deplete zinc, and the ACE inhibitors are the mostly commonly used. Acid blocking drugs also are thought to affect zinc absorption. Vegans may become low in zinc over time, because of the phytate content of vegetables hinders absorption. If you are low in zinc the typical dose would be one OptiZinc a day or every other day.
Zinc is sometimes used to treat hair loss, especially in patients taking anti-seizure drugs.

NAC's most common side effect is a rash that some people get, but not all.

This monograph gives dosing for NAC:
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple...TYL%20CYSTEINE

As always, thanks for this! It's so great to have a place to discuss this.
Steven


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