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08-25-2009, 02:14 AM | #11 | |||
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There has been some evidence that folic acid supplements work better than food.
Here is a recent article about vitamins vs food: http://www.healthnewswebsite.com/nut...pplements.html Quote:
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10-03-2009, 08:32 AM | #12 | ||
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How long should you wait to eat after taking B12 in the morning on a empty stomach?
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"Thanks for this!" says: | DejaVu (08-20-2015) |
10-03-2009, 09:02 AM | #13 | |||
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At least 1/2 hr , but 1 hr is better.
The micrograms of B12 can be lost in food. Microgram dosing of drugs has been found to be severely impacted by presence of food. Esp fiber foods that breakfast often has. Micrograms is a very very tiny amount of anything. Because I know this from my training...I push the empty stomach factor. I have not seen any of the OTC websites picking this fact up for B12...and it has been over 5 yrs now since it was known for drugs. That just illustrates how medical info can get walled into little niches and not applied to other situations! I had a patient in a clinic once whose doctor kept raising her thyroid dose. She was at .225mg which is really high.. and getting no response. Turns out she was taking it with Oatmeal! She was a young woman with an intact thyroid...no Hashimoto's either. She ended up well, finally at .1mg where she belonged, after I intervened.
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10-03-2009, 10:05 AM | #14 | |||
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Hi Mrs. D. You probably saved that woman's life. I take the Methyl B-12 as soon as I get up in the morning. Under my tongue. Around 8:15 a.m. By the time I take my walk to my local little breakfast nook where I have my one egg (or egg white), with my sliced tomatoes ( I bring a cup of my sprouts), and sprinkle on top). Well, it's about one hour after I do the Methyl B-12 that I have my breakfast. For me, it works just fine. I take 5000 each and every day. So far, no side effects, just good energy and no pins and needles and tingling. Oh, on an interesting note, last night Alan said "my feet don't burn, they just tingle". I said "what do you mean your feet don't burn, I thought that's what they've been doing for 18 years because your neuro diagnosed you with small fiber (I think large fiber too, but I'm not sure). He said 'what exactly do you mean when you say BURNING". So I said "well, in my case when the weather is not cooperating, my whole foot burns for two seconds. NOTHING COMPARED to what it did when I was first diagnosed with Diabetic Neuropathy two years ago. I immediately went on the Methyl B-12 and the rest is history. He tried it but nothing happened. So I do get very few episodes of slight burning, but it's NOTHING. Maybe they are healing? Who knows. I certainly can live with it because I dont' get the zipping zapping, etc. Alan, on the other hand explained that what I thought was BURNING in his case, turned out to be EXTREME TINGLING. So when Alan says to me "My feet are doing a dance", now I know he means TINGLING and not burning. God only knows, I would have spent the next 18 years thinking this guy's feet were on fire, and they were REALLY TINGLING LIKE CRAZY. Neuropathy is a very weird disorder. Melody
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10-04-2009, 11:50 AM | #15 | ||
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Thank you for being such a help!
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10-09-2009, 12:52 AM | #16 | |||
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This company is releasing a new B12 oral delivery system:
http://www.emisphere.com/eligen.html A new way to deliver B12 orally, using lower doses. http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...23&newsLang=en http://www.emisphere.com/eligen_library.html This company is trialing a 5mg dose form... http://www.emisphere.com/oral_vitamin_b12.html Quote:
I expect this will raise costs, to those who take B12, but it appears to be an improvement in absorption.
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10-09-2009, 10:32 AM | #17 | |||
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Mrs. D. I clicked on the emisphere link and read the info. How exactly is the DELIVERY of this oral B-12 different than what I am doing presently. Taking the Jarrow 5000 sublingually each morning. Thanks much Melody
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10-09-2009, 10:40 AM | #18 | |||
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The new system is vague...they don't want to reveal their patent IMO.
One of the links shows how their additive enables large molecules to cross membranes in the GI tract. Up until now, if you have no intrinsic factor working, high dose B12 is only passively absorbed in the intestine. This is why high doses are needed, to push a little bit (less than 10%) into the blood stream. This is why empty stomach is important now with the oral as it exists today. It appears this technology is going to be applied to insulin and other large molecules that cannot be given orally at this time due to stomach acid and poor absorption. It appears that the B12 is the first application for this. I guess it will generate some income to support the research for the other uses. I just hope it is not priced so high as to be out of many peoples' reach. And I couldn't find what type of B12 they are doing either. I hope it is methylB12. I think those questions will resolve soon, as it will be out soon.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | MelodyL (10-09-2009) |
11-05-2009, 11:29 AM | #19 | ||
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I know carrot juice provides lots of vitamin A, but do not know if its B complex vitamins have the B-12.
Does anyone know? Thanks PS: Couldn't live without my juicer!! |
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11-05-2009, 11:36 AM | #20 | |||
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but I agree. I love my juicer also. I just juice for my husband. Melody
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