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mrsD 06-14-2014 07:39 AM

Lucky you.... I slept in today...sigh.:o

If you leave Karel's cam open, you can hear his voice like a radio over at the other tabs. That's is what I am doing now.

mrsD 06-14-2014 09:59 AM

All three are now fledged and out of the nest.

All look good. E1 and E2 are on a building roof. And E3 is in a tree. The birders on the ground are festive and happy.

Luckily it is Saturday and they(volunteers) can get these videos for us. ;)

Lara 06-14-2014 11:37 PM

Funny.


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Karel'sCam
'Mom I Don't Think I Can Eat A Stick!'
PM _6.14.14_

mrsD 06-15-2014 04:03 AM

Oh, Karel is so droll LOL. I think Mom is telling the chick
That this new location is the feeding area I.e. The new nest.
When she is communicating with them they typically look away and avoid eye contact. It is easier to feed them if the have
A good spot that is flat and accessible. I think she wants
the one in the tree to see also and come there.
The leg stretch was pretty funny too.. Almost like an "okay,
Mom ".

Thanks for that..that was really a neat video.

We had screeing hawk calls yesterday here too.
I wonder if there is a nest near us? Must be but we didn't
See them. ;)

mrsD 06-15-2014 07:50 AM

Karel is explaining last night's activity in summary.

Seems they were all very busy! ;)

He thinks also, that Mom bringing the branch was a message
to the chicks that there is where the parents want to feed them.

It must be hard for the parents to fly all over to find them, etc.
This morning E1 and E2 are eating on the building roof.
Must take alot of energy and effort to find the chicks every day. ;)

mrsD 06-15-2014 12:53 PM

E3 has been crying for food all day....parents not feeding.

He flew to the glass greenhouse and the upper window which was on automatic, came closed and squashed him. The livestream ended and there is no word yet as to if the injury is serious.
There is a rehabber there and Vet from Cornell.

I can not find any updates at this time. The parents wanted him to fly up to where the other two chicks are on the building, but maybe E3 is too hungry and/or weak. So now E3's fate is not known. :(

nothing is being posted on twitter or on the main cam, and the main chat is closed until 4pm.

Lara 06-15-2014 03:05 PM

Just waking up here to a cool Monday morning.
There's a msg on their twitter page from 15 minutes ago saying E3 is on the greenhouse and a licensed rehaber and others are standing by although from the other site they seem to be saying that everything should be OK. Still hasn't been fed from what I can gather.

edited to add: E3 incident report

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Such a populated area. I came across some old blog yesterday regarding the fate of last years birds.
Seems the first year of life for these birds is pretty darn tough. :(

mrsD 06-15-2014 03:30 PM

Yes, the parents essentially starve the chicks into drastic
actions from what I have seen on this cam.

Early this morning Ezra and BR got into a huge physical fight over prey that BR was catching at the base of the old nest. He has been rather scarce today as a result. It was a nasty fight and at first the birders thought he was an intruder.

Poor E3 is the smallest and last egg laid. So perhaps BR doesn't think he will survive anyway so is starving him? Like cats and dogs fail to feed the runts of the litter?

I watched the whole thing. It was disturbing IMO. E3 moved off the safe old greenhouse and went to the other hoping a flat surface would bring food. Instead it brought doom.

I hope the rehab people catch him today, and save him and then release him when he is well. Almost 4 hrs of screaming for food. Even E1 took up the cry for him! E1 and E3 were friends in the nest, kissing and preening each other. It was stressful to watch today, and I finally stopped because I couldn't take the crying anymore.

If rehabbed...who will teach him to hunt however? That is the question.

Updates still coming in here:

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Lara 06-15-2014 07:35 PM

Fingers crossed for E3 now.
Now caught and in care with the Vet.

mrsD 06-15-2014 08:50 PM

Oh, good! I am so worried... I worked myself up into a huge
stomach ache. I have a heating pad on and I am
Lying in bed with my phone. Sigh.

Today I felt so sad for the little guy. Whew!

I guess if a bird gets in trouble, being at Cornell is
very handy at least.

I was worried he was dehydrated because his last
Evacuation before the incident was very
Small--scant. I just checked their update link
too, and the rehabber stated he was small.
Maybe too small to make it in the wild? Maybe he
Will have a different future as an educational tool?

Lara 06-15-2014 09:08 PM

It sounded extremely traumatic. Poor little bird.

I am just popping online from time to time and I opened up the Cornell site earlier and the person known as Culley / LC (I think?) had just arrived home from Cornell and she was one of the people onsite with the person who caught E3 and she said it only took about 10 seconds. He was on the ground by then. His sex is male she said and he is being hydrated and gets x-rays tomorrow, but she said he didn't have any broken feathers.

She seemed pretty upbeat about recovery.

you take it easy there.

edited to add: Culley said they wouldn't be tagging E3

OK, more updates in Incident Report from Victoria - some sort of shoulder injury. Given painkillers and hydrated for now.

mrsD 06-15-2014 09:18 PM

Thanks Lara.

I do have a sensitive streak -- that artist
in me. Sigh. These young hawks are so cute
And vulnerable..it was a very tough day for
E3 and his endless crying difficult for me.:o

Lara 06-15-2014 09:27 PM

Having watched those eggs being nurtured by those massive parent hawks and then have the babies crack out of eggs and grow so fast and end up with such distinct personalities, I totally understand how you feel.

UtahLefty has posted more on the update site... regarding health care and other things if E3 has a break as suspected or a dislocation. He also said E3 could just be bruised... they'll know tmro.

I'm sorry it's so upsetting, but as I said I do understand.
Let's see what tomorrow brings.

:hug:

Sparky10 06-15-2014 09:46 PM

Thank you, Lara, for posting the link to those updates. Although I haven't posted, I have been keeping up with this thread. Sure hope E3 is okay.

Does the name Utah Lefty ring any bells with anyone here? I wonder what the chances are that she is NevadaLeftie, who is a member here (but hasn't visited in years). If any of you are members of the Cornell website, and are able to chat, maybe you could ask if she ever went by that name? Wouldn't that be a wild coincidence? I'm thinking...maybe remembering...she and her husband used to live in a motor home on the road...

Lara 06-15-2014 11:10 PM

Hi Sparky,
As far as I know UtahLefty is one of the camera operators at Cornell Lab of Ornithology.

I don't use the chat there although from time to time I read it for the information they give out.

I imagine UtahLefty may be on staff considering that they asked for his/her input for the update about E3 and procedures regarding injuries etc..

Lara 06-16-2014 06:05 AM

Karel's Monday morning livestream only just started. E1 and E2 sighted already.

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Monday almost over for me, but will check back before sleep.

Edited to add: Karel's first livestream is very short.
They're moving from the top of the building to the ground now and I guess will begin again.
They're all exhausted from yesterday.

Someone (keys I think) posted this poem just now. It's really lovely.

The Hawk
Charles Albano
c. 1998

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P.P.S. Sparky, Utahlefty is a Vet.

Sparky10 06-16-2014 08:55 AM

Thanks Lara! I really doubt, now that I think about it, that the 2 Leftys are the same person. She'd have to be in her 80's! Which is not impossible, of course; just unlikely.

Wish I had unlimited data time - I could watch bird cams all day.

mrsD 06-16-2014 09:21 AM

I have to take a break from this. I'll follow the written updates on
E3 still from that link, but I can't take the drama anymore.

Some of this cam was just priceless, and unique, and enjoyable though.

And I hope E3 will be all right. One has to be careful when the people there say, "it will be okay", or don't worry. These platitudes just don't work for me and seem dishonest. Everyone said E3 was fine, and I don't think he was from the beginning. He was always small and last fed of the 3.

I think few
of these hawks ever make it to adulthood successfully. They have to survive the manmade stuff they run into, learn to fly, survive the polluted environment (the Norfolk eagles had lead contamination), learn to hunt well, and if all goes as planned, a few may get to mate and reproduce! Then they have to survive migration! Whew!

Lara 06-16-2014 06:46 PM

Sparky, I can't watch it for long myself.
If I open the birdcam from Cornell, it tends to freeze any other window I have open.

I really did enjoy checking on these hawks from time to time and especially when they were in the nest and waiting for them to fledge. The Red Tailed Hawk is a very beautiful bird. It's been a really great experience up until the accident and I guess I find it difficult to understand that the people there didn't think about the danger of the greenhouse roof, and it is a very busy area with building projects going on and traffic rushing by most of the time.

To be honest, I feel a little deflated about the whole nest-on-campus thing now despite how amazing it has been. It probably didn't help that I had also read a blog just a couple of days ago about the fate of last years birds.

mrsD 06-17-2014 02:47 AM

My husband's take is that Cornell is just
Going to push for money donations now.
I looked all day yesterday and nothing
On E3. But a new link asking for money
Appeared.

I think this poor bird may be euthanized.
They all ready said he will not be banded.
So they may expect that he is not likely
To survive in the wild. :(

I have problems with the streaming too.
It crashes Flash for me.

mrsD 06-19-2014 11:03 AM

Here is an update on E3's surgery and progress.


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The injury was more extensive than expected, so it will be a long recovery for him. (many bone fragments and a ruptured muscle).

The other two fledglings are on the roof of a building close by and
seem to be doing okay.

I hope all will turn out for the best. But they are mentioning here and there about E3 becoming an "educational bird".
Perhaps this will be a good outcome too.

mrsD 06-20-2014 04:53 PM

There is a message up on the Cornell site today that the chat will be closing for the season, on June 22. It does not mention the
cam itself, but I do think they are both included.

E1 and E2 remain far away on the building next to the gardens.
It is difficult to see them. So it is understandable that following them is difficult too.

Lara 06-29-2014 02:38 PM

E3 needed more surgery.
Pins were not replaced.

update from Friday surgery here
need to scroll down to 6/27/14


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mrsD 06-29-2014 05:11 PM

Oh, thanks, Lara. I really favored E3... watching him that last
week in the nest with E1, after E2 had accidently fledged.

There were friendly moments between them, and a kind of intimacy that was not present before. So I do believe he has a nice "personality" at the Vet's. I was watching when the accident happened...it was very disturbing. But it seems he will have a life now irregardless of whether he can fly after recovery. I think he'd make a wonderful educational bird/tool for the public and schools, and I think they are already thinking about that since it was mentioned twice already.;)

Lara 07-12-2014 04:59 AM

I hadn't checked for a while but there have been a couple of


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plus Karel and BOGette reported seeing Ezra, Big Red, and E1 and E2 around campus.

Here's a photo as well.


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So handsome!

mrsD 07-12-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara (Post 1081643)
I hadn't checked for a while but there have been a couple of


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plus Karel and BOGette reported seeing Ezra, Big Red, and E1 and E2 around campus.

Here's a photo as well.


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So handsome!

Oh, Thanks for that photo... I will keep it on my computer to admire always... He is a remarkable bird...I hope he survives and fulfills a wonderful path in life.

mrsD 07-12-2014 01:16 PM

That link that Lara found for us, has a long history of photos going back to the building of the nest, snow around the eggs, and newly hatched chicks! Great stuff!


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