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Old 10-14-2006, 03:45 PM #1
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I have an almost 3year old Jack/Rat terrier named Toby. He is my baby and spoiled to death but he has got bad. I kept my Dad's dog for a month when he was in the hospital and he was bad to pee in the house. Now Toby will go on the kitchen floor. Due to my health problems I am unable to walk him like I use to but he will go even when I have just walked him.
Will having him fixed help this problem.
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Old 10-14-2006, 10:45 PM #2
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Hi, I may have a few suggestions for you.

I am not too sure how big your dog is, but have you tried getting a choker collar and putting it on your dog? When ever he/she makes a mess in the house correct the dog with the collor and tell it no. This will not harm your dog. Just make sure if you do not know how to put it on the right way that you ask someone who knows how to do it like someone in a pet store or a vet. And you might want to ask about the size because you do not want the collar too tight or too loose.
I have a seeing eye dog and she has one of these same collars. Most of the guide dog schools use them and I do not think they would recomend something that would harm a service animal.

If your dog does something good like does it's business outside tell he/she is a good dog and give it lots of praise. Maybe give it some kind of treat.

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HURRAY that Toby is peeing in the kitchen!!!! (where, I presume, you don't have carpet??

I would do two things...

One, I would buy a pack of Doggie Wee Wee pads at WalMart for bigger dogs and place one in the kitchen and BRAG on him if uses it. (that is, if you have been fussing at him and he has gotten to acting all guilty and cringing)

Second, I would buy a bottle or two of enzyme pet odor elimator - try to get the concentrate where you mix it with slightly warm water, and UNSCENTED (for I find all the scented ones I have used to be nauseating and long-lasting).

Then, if you are unable to crawl on your hands and knees, sniffing every bit of carpet or wood floor for where your dad's dog peed, then get someone to help out. At every spot, saturate it well with the solution and then place plastic wrap or foil over the spot and something to hold it in place well (for like 12-24 hours) so the place will not dry out. Be sure (sniff test) to saturate every last area with any odor. I would carry around a plastic bucket full of solution with me.

It may have been undignified for me to crawl about, nose an inch or two over the carpet, rear in the air
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, but the end results were always worth it. (especially when moving into an apartment with cat pee in the carpet. Now THAT is nasty.)

The enzyme will totally breakdown and destroy all remnants of the urine, removing it as a trigger for Toby.

You see, a foreign dog, and intruder, came into Toby's home territory and went about marking Toby's home as his own -- And Toby's wetting inside is quite possibly his way of re-asserting that this is HIS home. But (if so) he is really being quite the good dog by not tinkling on every last spot where the other dog marked.

Of course, Toby COULD have a medical problem -- like a urinary tract infection or something. Is he peeing a lot more often than before? Does he seem in any discomfort, appear tense and edgy, when he goes nowadays?

I would not do any correcting of him. He is a terrier and that just doesn't sound the way to handle this.... and anyway, if it because of your Dad's dog or because of illness, either way Toby has no control over it. One is instinctual, the other would be an irritated inflamed bladder.

If all else fails, the only way is to go back to crating him when he is indoors. May take weeks, but the end result will be worth it. Or live life with wee-wee pads. And be thankful he sticks to the kitchen floor!

Here is hoping that you and Toby are living more happily together soon.
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rather than crawling and sniffing the floor - they have that new 'Urine Gone" product that comes with a black light. Urine glows in a black light, so that makes it very easy to find spots that need cleaning.

My suggestion for stopping the behavior is to take a big step backwards and crate train the dog as if it was a brand new puppy. I had to this this with my dog when we moved into a new apartment... and it works very well (whether or not the dog was crate trained as a puppy, they can still be crate trained as adult dogs).
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sounds like he is re-marking his territory.
but if he might have a medical problem do check for that.

we have a spoiled pointer mix - she thinks it is ok to run an jump on the couch and sleep on the couch {daddy lets her do it}

but I just have to be firm and consistent to retrain her to stay on her blanket on the floor - esp now that the rains have started - dirty feet and belly - ICK {at least it is faux leather}

terriers are very smart and jacks can be very full of them selves
{ my sis has one so I read up on temperament}

but a dog is a dog- consistency and firmness {not meanness} and lots of reward/praise when good - plus the crating will probably break the habit
and cleaning all the spots too.
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My dog loved being on the couch or the bed... but I didn't want her there if she was dirty or if we had company over, etc... But she much prefered the couch and our bed to her big bed pillow on the floor.

So I trained her to ask for permission first before jumping up on the furniture. She would stand at the couch or bed and look at me and wag her tail like crazy.... I would then tell her "Ok, up" if she was allowed on the couch, or I would say "go lay down" if I wanted her to stay on the floor on her own bed.

It's worked great! and it only took about a week to train her to ask for permission first.... the best part is that we set up a webcam tos ee what she did while we we not home - and she did not jump on the furniture when we were out.

Maybe that would work for your family and your dog - so that you could keep her off the furniture when she is dirty and your husband could still be the "softie" by allowing her on the furniture with permission.
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Great idea about the black light for spotting urine. So now I am glad it didn't sell in the last rummage sale...lol.

Our Golden never, ever, ever jumped on furniture in our presence. Never even remember it being an issue...she trained well with all of those things as a puppy. BUT... one time as we were driving away, we spotted her on the couch looking out the window!!! We couldn't believe it! Still, never in our presence, but we knew she sometimes did it when we were gone. Yep...they are pretty smart
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We trained our dog to ask permission before running to jump in the lake. It was really cute, because she'd run to the shore and look back and ask like three times before she accepted it was really ok. She used to love the water. She'd swim for eight hours if we let her. As she got older, we had to start limiting her or she couldn't move for two days.

They really are smart. I guess everyone who owns one knows that
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