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Old 12-01-2006, 11:41 PM #1
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Unhappy Wee-Wee Pads: Help :(

Recently I mentioned my Maltese had suffered a trauma to her eye causing a severe hemorrhage. The problem now, is it was not a hemorrhage - it's a tumor. A biopsy, culture and shaving was done today, the surgery was finished and they sewed her eye shut (I thought I'd take seeing it better, but didn't handle it well).

She is still on the prednisone along with a truckload of drops and pills. I'm sure you could imagine after sedation plus the medication, she's drinking a lot. She gained a pound in the past week and a half (she got rather plump, fast).

She is peeing around every 15 minutes (straight water). She seems to just stand by me and pee, and give me the "I have to pee right now, sorry" face.

I put down wee wee pads but she wags her tail and lays on them.
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My dog doesn't like toys, she likes blankets. I think she believes this pack of pads is a pack of blankets because she sleeps on them and pees next to them.

At any rate, she can pee wherever - I have a mop and two willing hands. BUT! If you know of anything else she may pee on (she wont pee on paper, she dislikes the texture - she also hates grass, sigh).

Anyway, I won't know any results from her surgery today until Wednesday (biopsy) and Thursday (culture). From what I understand, this was done to confirm a tumor (it may just be an enormous blood clot) and check for cancer (since it's growing rapidly fast) and/or infection...and something else. Should be a fun result week, I get my latest VEEG results on Tuesday.

Also, do you know of anyone who sells padded lampshade cone head thingies? I don't know what they are called. I have a picture of hers (I won't show her face since the eye may upset people). It doesn't look cozy to lay on, so I was thinking of maybe trying to pad hers with something nice and cushy. If you know of people who sell them, let me know. I'd give a limb to make sure she's comfy.


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She has jammies and socks on because she is shivering (I guess from surgery and the socks are so she can't get a grip on the cone shes trying to take off).
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Old 12-02-2006, 12:15 AM #2
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Poor honey .... to be on a fluid retaining medication, and then having it pour out of her too.... and her having to "be a bad dog", not having a way in the world to control it... I really feel for her ... and you..


Now as to your immediate problem... I would immediately try another brand. Some advertised online claim to have a "real grass smell" ... or maybe some brands may have more of the odor that signals a dog, "here's the place" ....


My mother's pup would always tinkle on the pad, but would only poop BESIDE it.
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Perhaps you might blanket the area just at the door where she used to go outside before? Hang her collar and leash from the knob? ANY sort of clues?


Don't leave the package of pads anywhere she can use it as a cushioned surface.


The CLOSER she pees to the pad, the more you brag on her. Even get some of her urine on a papertowel and then wring it out in one spot on the pad (the center??). This will give her something to sniff and think about.


I hope a change in pad brands might do it -- and if not, I hope you can lure her into using one at least once so you can praise her to the heavens!


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what about getting a scrap of vinyl flooring? home depot nd places like that have it. even some discount places. you would still have to mop it...but it would be in one place.

i dont know about the cones. maybe petsmart?
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I bought her cone at petco which has a semi-padded neckline but it doesn't look very comfy.

My house is full marble and my bedroom is that fake wood stuff (I don't know my floor names well). I tried to put pee on the pad but she still peed next to it. Wherever I put the pad, she lays on it.

Keep in mind, once a month we buy her a new blanky. She doesn't like toys so we buy her blankets (she looooooves blankets). I think I have done this to her. Anytime I lay something on the floor, it's always hers to sleep on. She likes towels fresh from the dryer, a lot.

I saw the scented pads and the ones I got were cheaper (haha, I'm still cheap). She doesn't wear a collar or leash outside - I have a fenced in area aside my house for her to poo and pee because it has a concrete sidewalk for her to go on (she hates grass, dirt, rocks, etc.).

I'm trying to find her a kitten, which has been a hoot. I know it sounds funny to buy a pet for your pet, but shes been trying to lick this poor cat and she's been hiding behind my washer for two days (it's my friends cat). My dog won't play with dogs, toys, nothing. She hardly kisses us unless we just get home, we get ONE lick and then a SNORT of dogsnot in our face.

She licked this cat so much it hid from her, hah.

I'm hoping to find a dog friendly cat who doesn't mind the dog grooming it.

I've been bouncing between my dogs making sure Nysa is comfy and OK and my other dog is OK (he gets very jealous and he is worried about her, wanting to lick her eye).

It's a pee party at my house! woo-hoo.
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Swiffer wet jet things are great for dog pee!
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I love her jammies -- she's so precious.

I don't know anything about home health care for dogs. My experience is all cat-related.

I was just wondering if you could put some sod in a litter box if she would use that for her business. But, I see you said she doesn't like grass.

Maybe if you got a large, low empty litter box and rubbed the bottom with paper towel soaked in pee-pee, she might use that. It's smooth, so it would be the right texture. And it would have "her" smell.

One of my old cats had a huge fat tumor -- it wasn't a cyst -- in his neck. I was lucky the whole thing was encapsulated so it didn't spread. But, it was huge. Couldn't put the cone on because of the location of the stitches. Had to put him in XL t-shirts to keep him from scratching out the stitches. He was the cutest thing wearing a red Coca-Cola t-shirt.

I hope it's not cancer. There's a lot of different things that cause fast-growing lumps. My cat's grew unbelievably fast -- they think it started from a cat bite.

Good luck. And hugs to your puppy-baby and you, too.

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Thanks (all of you) for the help and kind words. I really thought I was prepared, I knew deep down it wasn't an injury - I searched my whole house for what she could have hit her eye on (he said blunt force trauma initially - so I was on a hunt).

Before I left I kept saying to my friend/caretaker (God bless her for moving in, whole new topic), "It's not an injury, her eye is turning grey and then blood red..I see something in it...the medicine is making it worse" and so on. Soon as he said tumor, cancer, eye loss, and all of that I didn't know if I had a seizure coming or if I had real nausea for once.

It seemed to not hurt her which is why I questioned an injury, she was fine up until today since, well, her eye is sewn shut and it looks so painful. Ugh, I hate seeing it, I feel horrible. She's so ****** at me. She is associating me with eye drops, forced pills, vets and then I left her with a man who sewed her eye shut. My boyfriend wouldn't even put her drops in tonight saying only one person needed to be the bad guy.

I'd give anything for her and I don't wanna be the bad guy.
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(((((((((Ellie)))))))))))))


as she likes concrete to "go" on, have you thought of maybe getting a couple of those large concrete paving stones at Home Depot and putting them in a few strategic places around the house.

you could also scent them with some of her pee so she recognizes them as "go" spots

re the padding.........you could DIY maybe with some fabric glue and cushioned fabric ?

more ((((((BIG HUGS)))))) to you and the sweety pooch
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Unhappy Oh, Ellie...

poor little thing. It is really sad when they get sick this way, since they really don't understand what is going on. I always feel for them.

My son left his cat (who he rescued from a very dismal situation) at an emergency vet 2 weekends ago (she was vomiting non stop and close to collapse), and this freaked her out, as she thought she was abandoned again. She ripped out her IVs, and gave them a hard time (normally she is docile). She is much better now ($800 later)... but I really felt for her too. Animals just don't understand. (she had some infection, thought to be bacterial hepatitis --which I had never heard of)

I hope this sewn shut eye is just temporary? Do they do that so it won't dry out? Or don't you know yet? At least she is home with you.

I am so sorry that you and she have to go thru all this.
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The eye is sewn shut (from what I understand, mind you - I went kind of blank for a moment as he spoke) to prevent infection since her eyeball itself is exposed.

They had scraped (I think this is right) the top layer from her actual eyeball. I think that he said that was to remove any "bad stuff" (I forgot what he said) in case it is/was an infection. I believe that had to be done anyway, in order to get a culture and then biopsy the area.

From what I can tell, there seems to be 2-3 stitches sewing her third eyelids shut. She is still on a bit of medication, she has two drops and one pill type.

I'm going to give it another day, but she has picked up a sniffle today. It mimics her pout, so I'm having problems telling if he's just upset or getting a cold. I'm keeping an eye on her temperature as well as the surgery site to check for redness, swelling and any form of hot spots.

On the bright side, I am getting new pots and pans of my choice for being the bad guy.

I finally collapsed today, I laid down around noonish (heck, I don't even know when it was) and slept for nearly 5 hours. I'm reminded of the days my son was a preemie, he couldn't cry well so I'd stare at him for hours since I had to pretty much watch for him to cry, the monitors didn't pick up his cry (it was a little squeak of sorts).

Her stitches come out on Wednesday, and hopefully I will have her results then as well.
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I remember those preemie days! But my son could cry...like an air raid siren!
The doctors were happy with that...exercise the lungs etc. But it was tough on us at home!

We had to feed every 2 &1/2 hrs for a month! He came home at 4.5 lbs.

I am reading this thread too, about the wee wee pads, might need those someday.

I wonder about the frequency of the urination? Was this doggie tested
for diabetes? Steroids raise blood sugar, and in a hidden diabetic, this would be pronounced. Diabetes also lowers immunity and leads to infections and eye issues. (retinal hemorrhages).

Sorry to be late to this thread...I have been working a ton the past few days.
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