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janieg 06-19-2015 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1149391)
All one has to do is try some real niacin and get the flush.

That flush can be so like some PN symptoms. Stinging, burning, you name it!

I just read about a HISTAMINE cream!
Australian Dream Cream!

Here is a wiki on it too: used for leukemia patients.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histamine_dihydrochloride

Believe it or not, I just ran up to Walgreens to get some benadryl and saw Australian Dream Cream on the shelf. I wish I had picked it up and looked at it.

janieg 06-20-2015 09:39 AM

I really think I need to try some daosin. What I dealt with last night was beyond normal and ridiculous. It had to be a reaction of some type.

And MrsD, I think it was you who at one point talked about slapping a lidocaine patch or putting cream on the back of your knee. I put a patch on the back of my left knee last night, and it really, really calmed my left leg down. It was vibrating stronger than I've ever felt it. So thanks for that! :hug:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23494529


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mrsD 06-20-2015 09:45 AM

Yes, that is interesting... I've always suspected histamine in the periphery...given my reactions at times to food.

What is concerning however, is the new information on
diphenhydramine (and other H1 histamine blockers of the first generation)...causing increased Alzheimer's -- I guess their central action in the brain, is the culprit?

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/c...k-201501287667

So I suppose using Benadryl as a cream would be better than oral...???

I suspect that vibrational/buzzing feelings are symptoms of compressions. I have accidently induced a major vibration by putting the wrong pole of a very strong neodymium magnet behind my knee once. Flipping it over to the other pole, stopped the whole vibration event!

janieg 06-20-2015 09:55 AM

Interesting. Had not heard that.

Benadryl is not a good all around solution for me as it makes me loopy as all get-out. I can only take it at night, and even then, I'm in a "benadryl coma" the next day. It has a profound effect on me, and I try to use it very sparingly.

I've been looking into histamine-rich foods, and wouldn't know they're pretty much a mainstay of my diet right now.

http://histame.com/histamine-rich-foods-substances

http://www.foodsmatter.com/allergy_i...ne_joneja.html

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caroline2 06-20-2015 11:56 AM

janieg, I see you take grape seed ex and I was going to mention it since it does reduce histimines, it's anti histimine, anti fungal, anti bacterial properties in this OPC. Maybe consider taking 250mg a couple times a day and see if you can get results. I take at least 400mg grape seed ex daily, one of my products is Muscadine grape seed from vitacost and it is 500mg cap...I take it daily and 200mg grape seed Extract cap too.

I realize I don't have all the PN issues so many of you talk about but grape seed ex has been a life changer for me in so many ways. I know when I had a couple bouts of edema from a couple things, I upped grape seed ex to 600mg or more daily and got rid of edema...so I know it's so effective for so many issues. And much is still unknown but more info comes out all the time as I find a lot of info. C

janieg 06-20-2015 06:33 PM

Thanks, Caroline...I'll give it a shot.

I've also ordered Swanson's Daosin product to see if it helps any.

If I do have a histamine problem going, it would explain a lot. In the months preceding my SFN acute onset, really weird things were happening. I've never had any food allergies or reactions in my life, and all the sudden, I had a horrible reaction after eating scallops. I got congested, was hacking and wheezing, and broke out in hives on my torso. This was right after I had torn up my digestive tract with iron supplements and felt like I had kerosene running through my gut. I just assumed my digestive system was in tizzy as it hasn't happened since, but I still have lingering weirdness that seems to have some dietary connection.

Gosh, I miss the days of having a normal body.

janieg 06-21-2015 11:10 AM

I really don't want to go down this road, but...

I found this blog dedicated to the link between menopause and histamine intolerance.

https://themenopausehistamineconnection.wordpress.com/

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madisongrrl 09-11-2015 10:19 PM

I am totally miserable. My neck and face are covered in hives. I have been over reacting to heat since the onset of this darn disease.

I spent the whole day researching supplements.

Here is what I ordered today:

Histimine Block by Seeking Health

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o02_s00

Quercetin Phytosome by Throne Research

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o00_s00

And I might purchase this:

Moducare by Throne Research

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A2EJCTH67GJMT3

I'll also be avoiding foods on this list:

http://chriskresser.com/headaches-hi...-be-the-cause/

I'm definitely open to suggestions!

janieg 09-11-2015 10:37 PM

Sorry to hear this MG. Hope something helps. I noticed no difference with daosin I bought, but I still have no clue why the blue cheese affected me so badly. I'll have to try it again while I'm in a lull.

I don't want to think about how much money I've spent on supplements through all this, but I keep trying. Thankfully I just got a new job that will help fund my experimentation better. :rolleyes:

madisongrrl 09-11-2015 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janieg (Post 1170449)
Sorry to hear this MG. Hope something helps. I noticed no difference with daosin I bought, but I still have no clue why the blue cheese affected me so badly. I'll have to try it again while I'm in a lull.

I don't want to think about how much money I've spent on supplements through all this, but I keep trying. Thankfully I just got a new job that will help fund my experimentation better. :rolleyes:

My face is so scary today that I worked from home. This is awful!!!!!

And congrats on the new job!


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