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05-23-2017, 10:16 AM | #1 | |||
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It looks to me to be rather dangerous.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3354878/ Hugs, ElaineD |
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05-23-2017, 11:47 AM | #2 | ||
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I have been contemplating posting more about this herb and what my conclusions are after a months use. Firstly when opening the container and taking in a strong whiff the smell is very very pungent like marijuana. The effect on pain control is unbelievable. Specifically the effect on that abrasive horrible burning associated with PN As an aphrodisiac its effect is a bit to strong to the point of distraction. I'm hoping somebody else can try this and verify my observations Regarding the dangers, well what drug isn't, it's a matter of risk vs reward. |
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05-23-2017, 12:01 PM | #3 | |||
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I really don't think experimenting with this herb is a good idea.
1) You may find that you develop a tolerance to its pain relieving properties and/or it may stop working. 2) This testosterone stimulation is not going to be good for the women here. 3) Elevations in testosterone in males, (like the patches and gels on RX in this country) have shown heart attack side effects, and stroke risks. There are malpractice attorneys working on suing the drug manufacturers for this, as it is not rare. There are no longer RX TV ads for these products here too. 4) There is no accurate data on other effects of this herb...so I would not recommend it here for posters to experiment with.
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05-24-2017, 07:57 AM | #4 | ||
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Living with a low libido and the effect on my relationship and living with extra pain is also not a good idea How does adding a herb to an already dangerous cocktail of drugs make it all of sudden more dangerous? I'm in no way suicidal but if this herb struck me down then I it would not bother me, however years of drug cocktails have not, so I seriously doubt a plant will ☺ |
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05-24-2017, 09:07 AM | #5 | |||
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What is possible when a male takes extra testosterone to improve libido or whatever (called Low-T in the US), is that this is an imperfect solution because doctors cannot balance doses perfectly to each patient's needs, and have to rely on what the drug companies make only.
This was a huge industry...when it began. TV ads were frequent and the demand was high. The body building community is heavily into androgen supplements. You might consider looking at some of the busy bodybuilding forums on the net. But... after all the dust cleared men started having more heart attacks and strokes. This was tied to the testosterone being used late in life. So using any testosterone booster, herbal or not, may result in surprises and sudden death down the road. It is your choice to consider if using this herb is worth it. This antsy feeling could be this: akathisia Medical Definition of Akathisia This symptom is also present in those taking psychiatric drugs... amphetamines (ADHD), atypical antipsychotics (bipolar, schizophrenia), SSRIs (Depression, chronic pain). If your side effect of restlessness and needing to move around, is this ...that would suggest that this herb is affecting serotonin in the brain. So I would look up serotonin syndrome, and familiarize yourself with its symptoms, as it can sneak up on people. Herbs in general are difficult to standardize, and since this one is not really common, batches of it may vary. Also there is a history in China and could be with your country too, of manufacturers adulterating herbs with real drugs to give them a punch and so the users would feel "something" and think the herb is working for them. Another example is toxins. A popular herb from India called gugulipid, was found to have lead in it not long ago, and is much less popular now. So.... these are just some of the issues, that make using this herb possibly problematic. You can do what you want of course, but I feel compelled to say more when you then try to get others to experiment here with it.
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05-25-2017, 08:06 AM | #6 | ||
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I'm going to stick with it and let the cards fall where they may. My partner is at least a lot happier ☺ |
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