advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-15-2017, 08:59 PM #1
zorro1 zorro1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 390
15 yr Member
zorro1 zorro1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 390
15 yr Member
Default A magic herb

I live in Thailand and was recommended a herb that is produced here " Butea superba" to spice up my libido as most of you know a cocktail of meds can have an adverse effect in that department. Short story, it works and maybe works to well but that's a good thing

However that's not what this is about. Another effect of this herb is incredible stamina and energy
.. The energy boost is simply amazing but that's not what this is about either.

I have PN pretty bad with not much feeling in my feet and finger tips along with painful knees and heavy as lead legs and trouble climbing and descending steps.

This all changed dramatically when I started this herb. Firstly the burning has decreased to where I no longer notice it.
Also my knee pain and dead legs simply went away and I can climb stairs without the slightest difficulty

So I started walking and walking 8 to 15 km a day! ( average about 6 miles) And could have walked double that. I got a step counter and you can see the results.

It's simply a miraculous turn around.

Just wanted to share and perhaps it may help some one else.


Last edited by zorro1; 05-15-2017 at 11:17 PM.
zorro1 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote

advertisement
Old 05-16-2017, 08:33 AM #2
mrsD's Avatar
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
mrsD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
Lightbulb

That is amazing.

So I looked this up---

Butea superba - Scientific Review on Usage, Dosage, Side Effects | Examine.com

Were or are you using opioids for chronic pain? If yes, then this testosterone boosting herb could help with the hypothalamic reduction in male hormones over time caused by long term opioid use

Posters here should note however that this herb has not been studied in depth yet. and use by women may yield different results.
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei

************************************

.
Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017


****************************
These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
mrsD is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
janieg (05-24-2017)
Old 05-16-2017, 09:47 AM #3
zorro1 zorro1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 390
15 yr Member
zorro1 zorro1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 390
15 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsD View Post
That is amazing.

So I looked this up---

Butea superba - Scientific Review on Usage, Dosage, Side Effects | Examine.com

Were or are you using opioids for chronic pain? If yes, then this testosterone boosting herb could help with the hypothalamic reduction in male hormones over time caused by long term opioid use

Posters here should note however that this herb has not been studied in depth yet. and use by women may yield different results.
Only tramadol at max dose which I nearly stopped using in the last week so down to 200mg
I also use Lyrica cut back from 300 mg to 200 mg in the last few days.

Still taking 25mg amitriptyline just because it makes me feel good especially with sleep

I'm on the max dose of this herb 3 capsules 450 mg a day and it feels like a bit to much, hard to explain but feel giddy in the stomach and the need to keep moving and restless legs.

As you know it's not well researched barely out of rat testing but I can confirm it's bloody potent!

Last edited by zorro1; 05-16-2017 at 10:33 AM. Reason: AXA
zorro1 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
mrsD (05-16-2017)
Old 05-16-2017, 12:10 PM #4
mrsD's Avatar
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
mrsD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
Lightbulb

Just be careful with it.

Sometimes there can be a "honeymoon" period when starting
a new thing/ in this case a herb. Herbs are mini-drugs and can have unexpected results over time. There could be a lingering toxicity, or a tolerance. Some herbal substances affect blood clotting too. This one doesn't have much of a history of data, so there might be surprises with it.

I'd back down to a dose that works for you but does not have bothersome side effects.
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei

************************************

.
Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017


****************************
These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
mrsD is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
zorro1 (05-16-2017)
Old 05-16-2017, 08:54 PM #5
zorro1 zorro1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 390
15 yr Member
zorro1 zorro1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 390
15 yr Member
Default

I don't know if this herb is effectively reducing my symptoms or whether it's a result of the irrisistable urge to keep moving that's giving me much needed exercise and providing a knock on effect in the pain department as well as building up muscles in the legs to help support pressure on my knees.

In any case I use it to love hiking and will be back at it
again because I can ☺

In the mean time will drop the dosage.
zorro1 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
mrsD (05-23-2017)
Old 05-23-2017, 10:16 AM #6
ElaineD's Avatar
ElaineD ElaineD is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 293
10 yr Member
ElaineD ElaineD is offline
Member
ElaineD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 293
10 yr Member
Default

It looks to me to be rather dangerous.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3354878/

Hugs, ElaineD
ElaineD is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2017, 11:47 AM #7
zorro1 zorro1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 390
15 yr Member
zorro1 zorro1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 390
15 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElaineD View Post
It looks to me to be rather dangerous.

Hyperandrogenemia due to ingestion of Butea superba

Hugs, ElaineD
Thanks for this, there is not much info out there.
I have been contemplating posting more about this herb and what my conclusions are after a months use.
Firstly when opening the container and taking in a strong whiff the smell is very very pungent like marijuana.
The effect on pain control is unbelievable. Specifically the effect on that abrasive horrible burning associated with PN
As an aphrodisiac its effect is a bit to strong to the point of distraction.
I'm hoping somebody else can try this and verify my observations
Regarding the dangers, well what drug isn't, it's a matter of risk vs reward.
zorro1 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-23-2017, 12:01 PM #8
mrsD's Avatar
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
mrsD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
Lightbulb

I really don't think experimenting with this herb is a good idea.

1) You may find that you develop a tolerance to its pain relieving properties and/or it may stop working.

2) This testosterone stimulation is not going to be good for the women here.

3) Elevations in testosterone in males, (like the patches and gels on RX in this country) have shown heart attack side effects, and stroke risks. There are malpractice attorneys working on suing the drug manufacturers for this, as it is not rare. There are no longer RX TV ads for these products here too.

4) There is no accurate data on other effects of this herb...so
I would not recommend it here for posters to experiment with.
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei

************************************

.
Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017


****************************
These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
mrsD is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-24-2017, 05:54 AM #9
oldhero oldhero is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 3
5 yr Member
oldhero oldhero is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 3
5 yr Member
Default

Whats PN please I have
many symptoms same as yourself.but not hear
of pn being mentioned.
T.I.A.

Sent from my SM-E500H using Tapatalk
oldhero is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-24-2017, 07:57 AM #10
zorro1 zorro1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 390
15 yr Member
zorro1 zorro1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 390
15 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsD View Post
I really don't think experimenting with this herb is a good idea.

1) You may find that you develop a tolerance to its pain relieving properties and/or it may stop working.

2) This testosterone stimulation is not going to be good for the women here.

3) Elevations in testosterone in males, (like the patches and gels on RX in this country) have shown heart attack side effects, and stroke risks. There are malpractice attorneys working on suing the drug manufacturers for this, as it is not rare. There are no longer RX TV ads for these products here too.

4) There is no accurate data on other effects of this herb...so
I would not recommend it here for posters to experiment with.
Mrs D.
Living with a low libido and the effect on my relationship and living with extra pain is also not a good idea
How does adding a herb to an already dangerous cocktail of drugs make it all of sudden more dangerous?
I'm in no way suicidal but if this herb struck me down then I it would not bother me, however years of drug cocktails have not, so I seriously doubt a plant will ☺
zorro1 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
ger715 (05-25-2017)
Reply

Tags
energy, herb, simply, started, walking

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Herb RKT improves gastroparesis lab rat Parkinson's Disease 1 02-11-2014 07:38 AM
Rhodiola Rosea Herb Aunt Bean Parkinson's Disease 27 04-08-2013 10:56 PM
is hawthorn an ok herb to take? bruegger84 Vitamins, Nutrients, Herbs and Supplements 8 06-10-2011 01:30 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:28 AM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.