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anon22217 04-25-2013 01:04 AM

Taurine?
 
I was given supplements that contain Taurine in them. I did some google research which is unreliable but anyway, here's a link I found about Taurine and TBI's.
http://www.grovecanada.com/blog/2013...lzheimers.html

what do you think?

Thanks

ps. it seems like amino acids are very important to the healing of TBI's in conjucntion with Omega 3.

Mark in Idaho 04-25-2013 01:29 AM

Blue,

You are doing too much research online. Taurine may be helpful but the link you provided is very questionable information. The research I use is usually documented by scientific method medical research. I am very skeptical of undocumented comments.

Stress and anxiety are your worst enemy. Try to settle with a process for recovery and not bounce between various different concepts. Your job has enough cognitive effort and stress. Adding to it will only delay your recovery.

The various amino acids are important but there are so many that you will struggle to supplement them all. Meat protein has the amino acids you need. Pork is a good source of BCAA's (Branched Chain or Broken Chain Amino Acids). They are essential amino acids.

The B-12, folic acid, D3 and Omega 3 fatty acids are important in healing the strained axons and myelin sheath covering the axons.

It will take weeks for you to notice improvements and healing from good brain nutrition and low stress. Healing is a marathon, not a sprint. Anybody who tries to tell you otherwise is not being truthful. Try to settle in for the long haul.

mrsD 04-25-2013 06:32 AM

Here is a Wiki on Taurine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurine

Taurine is not really an "amino acid" per se.

It does have lots of actions in the brain and for heart muscle.
Quote:

Taurine crosses the blood–brain barrier[23][24][25] and has been implicated in a wide array of physiological phenomena including inhibitory neurotransmission,[26] long-term potentiation in the striatum/hippocampus,[27] membrane stabilization,[28] feedback inhibition of neutrophil/macrophage respiratory burst, adipose tissue regulation and possible prevention of obesity,[29][30] calcium homeostasis,[31] recovery from osmotic shock,[32] protection against glutamate excitotoxicity[33] and prevention of epileptic seizures.[34]
There is an long bibliography on the wiki article to consult.
The glutamate protection is very important for brain injured people, (including stroke), as glutamate is released from damaged neurons, leading to cell death.

I use taurine for gall bladder issues. It will complex cholesterol and help prevent gall stones, and it improves bile flow for those with "sluggish gallbladders"

I get mine at Puritan's Pride...where it is very inexpensive.

anon22217 04-25-2013 09:20 PM

Supplement prescribed to me
 
The reason why I asked is because my chiropractic neurologist gave me these supplements to take. He said it will help with pain levels and sleep quality.

https://www.neurorelief.com/index.php?p=products#

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 978190)
Here is a Wiki on Taurine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurine

Taurine is not really an "amino acid" per se.

It does have lots of actions in the brain and for heart muscle.


There is an long bibliography on the wiki article to consult.
The glutamate protection is very important for brain injured people, (including stroke), as glutamate is released from damaged neurons, leading to cell death.

I use taurine for gall bladder issues. It will complex cholesterol and help prevent gall stones, and it improves bile flow for those with "sluggish gallbladders"

I get mine at Puritan's Pride...where it is very inexpensive.


anon22217 04-26-2013 01:28 PM

kavinance improvement
 
Okay, I just wanted to update my situation. It's day two that I've been taking this supplement called Kavinance. I woke up feeling almost pain free, from a daily 3 -4 pain level down to a 0.5. I find this odd . It's supposed to be a sleep aid and anxiety reducer. Can soemoen explain this to me?

Thank you!

mrsD 04-26-2013 01:48 PM

Do you mean Kavinace?

http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.co...Fc9FMgodF1gACw

"phenybut" is a GABA agonist, and works like benzos (valium, etc) only weaker. It would have mild anti -anxiety effects.

Kavinace also has Taurine in it.

Kavinace ULTRA has slightly different ingredients.
http://healthygoods.com/kavinace-ult...roscience.html

anon22217 04-26-2013 04:03 PM

Hi, thanks for your reply. Yes Kavinace. So the reason why I feel almost pain free is because of the Phenybut? So it's like a pain killer?
I would actually it rather heal me instead of masking the symptoms! But pain free is good now.

Thank you

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 978575)
Do you mean Kavinace?

http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.co...Fc9FMgodF1gACw

"phenybut" is a GABA agonist, and works like benzos (valium, etc) only weaker. It would have mild anti -anxiety effects.

Kavinace also has Taurine in it.

Kavinace ULTRA has slightly different ingredients.
http://healthygoods.com/kavinace-ult...roscience.html


mrsD 04-26-2013 04:43 PM

Possibly... our PN posters sometimes use benzos for nerve pain.
But benzos are habituating, and the Kavinace not so.

Gaba agonists increase inhibitory nerve balance, and will reduce pain center activity in the brain. This is a mild effect, and you may find it wears off with time.

anon22217 05-29-2013 07:33 PM

Dear Mrs. D .

What do you mean it increases inhibitory nerve balance? And will it really wear off over time? I will be purchasing my second bottle of it. But it's very expensive:( So do you think I should continue it ? I need somehting for anxiety and stress and sleep quality and was recommended L-Tryptophan but my Chiropractic Neurogloist suggests I hold off on it and continue with the Kavinance.

Thank you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 978600)
Possibly... our PN posters sometimes use benzos for nerve pain.
But benzos are habituating, and the Kavinace not so.

Gaba agonists increase inhibitory nerve balance, and will reduce pain center activity in the brain. This is a mild effect, and you may find it wears off with time.


HappyC 12-31-2015 06:19 AM

I'm curious if you continued taking the Kavinace and if it remained effective for your pain. I have taken it for anxiety and sometimes it helps and other times it doesn't.

I'm not sure about Taurine for sleep, but it does have an effect on GABA and everything is all tied together in the brain. I was actually advised to take straight GABA for sleep.

Interestingly, the GABA apparently crosses the blood brain barrier in some people and not in others. So you can take it and if it makes you sleepy you have the right physiology and it can actually be a very effective sleep aid. I will find out soon if it works for me. Any anti-anxiety effect would be an added bonus as this is much cheaper than Kavinace.

Mark in Idaho 12-31-2015 01:01 PM

HappyC,

Welcome to NeuroTalk. Bluehiroko has not been on NT in almost a year. This thread has not been responded to since May of 2013.

At the price of Kavinace, not many had a willingness to try it. NeuroScience, the manufacturer, is not very forthcoming about it.

Taurine deficiency is not common except in vegetarians.

Do you suffer from Post Concussion Syndrome ?

How can we help ?


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