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Brokenfriend 06-29-2009 04:30 AM

9 cavities
 
I'm on a new medicine called Seroquel. I've been on it for about 6 months. My dentist said that my teeth around my gums where forming 9 cavities. My teeth where fine before.

Could the Seroquel be eroding my teeth? I see these yellow areas on my teeth around my gums. What's happening? I'm only 56. BF:confused:

Kitty 06-29-2009 05:39 AM

Sorry to hear about your dental woes, BF. Personally, I hate going to the dentist but I hate dental procedures more so I'll keep up the preventative measures as best I can! :o

I've read that some drugs cause your mouth to become overly dry and this can cause what you're describing. Now, this is just information I've heard.....I haven't confirmed it....but it makes sense. Do you wake up with "cotton mouth" sometimes? Like you've slept with your mouth open all night and it's too dry? I don't know if there's anything you can take or do to prevent dry mouth. It really is too bad that the very meds we take to help us sometimes cause totally unrelated problems. :rolleyes:

I hope you get some relief soon. :hug:

Bryanna 06-29-2009 10:18 AM

Hi Brokenfriend,

I'm sorry to hear that you are having this cavity problem. There may be a few things that are contributing to this sudden outbreak of cavities.

Generally gum line cavities are caused by the following issues:

.......Chronic dry mouth called xerostomia. This occurs as a side effect from many medications, one of them being "Seroquel". The meds cause a decrease in the flow of saliva which leaves the teeth vulnerable to bacteria causing decay. Teeth need to be constantly bathed in saliva as a resistant mechanism from tooth decay. This dry mouth condition also occurs if you are a mouth breather, especially when you sleep.

........ Another reason for gumline cavities is a build up of plaque. Plaque is made up of unremoved food debris that grows bacteria on it which causes tooth decay.

.....Another is gingivitis or periodontal disease. When the gums along the gumline become puffy it is a perfect hiding place for the overgrowth of plaque and bacteria.

...... Another reason is if the PH level in your saliva is too acidic. This causes erosion on the teeth and makes a person more susceptible to cavities.

.........Another one is the use of mouthwash that contains alcohol, like listerine. Alcohol is a drying agent and it causes a major decrease in salivary flow predisposing the user to tooth decay.

The yellow banding around the teeth can be the actual early stages of tooth decay. Aside from the Seroquel, are you aware that you have any of the other above issues?

To help combat chronic dry mouth it is imperative that you do not ever use a mouthwash that contains alcohol. However, using a great product that not only reduces the incidence of tooth decay but also encourages more saliva flow is called Xylitol. The best and least expensive way to use this is to buy Xylosweet in either small packets or in bulk containers and simply add one packet or one teaspoon to a small cup of water and rinse daily with it at night just before you go to sleep. I have personally seen it work wonders in many patients who stick with it every day!

FYI.... Xylosweet can be purchased in some grocery stores or online at vitacost.com. Here is a link that tells all about it...
http://www.jigsawhealth.com/products...t_xylitol.html

Hope this info is helpful!
Bryanna



Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 530530)
I'm on a new medicine called Seroquel. I've been on it for about 6 months. My dentist said that my teeth around my gums where forming 9 cavities. My teeth where fine before.

Could the Seroquel be eroding my teeth? I see these yellow areas on my teeth around my gums. What's happening? I'm only 56. BF:confused:


Brokenfriend 06-29-2009 07:48 PM

Thank you Kitty.

Thank you Bryanna. I looked at my teeth with a flashlight last night,and I see a yellow teethline all the way back to the end of my teeth.

It's not plague. I brush,floss,and wear a nite guard.

It must be the Seroquel. The seroquel has also caused my left ear to ring.

My Dentist has given me a prescription tooth past called Fluoridex. It has Xylitol in it. That's one of the things that you said would be good for me.

My Dentist said brush with Fluoridex a half an hour before bed,and do not rinse my mouth out.

I don't drink alcohol. Thanks for the information.

This resent tooth problem has me scared. I don't want to loose my teeth. I have all of my teeth,and have my teeth checked every six months.

The ringing in my left ear is another side affect from seroquel. I had no idea that these side affects existed,and have caused both problems. BF:grouphug::icon_frown:

Bryanna 06-29-2009 09:20 PM

Hi Brokenfriend,

I personally am not a fan of fluoride use and do not recommend it to our patients unless there are very extenuating circumstances such as there is in patients who have undergone radiation therapy for certain types of cancer. With these people, their lifespan has been shorten due to their illness and the radiation has severely destroyed the enamel on their teeth. Other than that, we do not recommend it.

You should know that the fluoridex has several useless and potentially harmful preservatives in it with the last ingredient being xylitol. Which means there is very, very little of that in the product. Seriously, you would benefit more from using straight Xylitol as I mentioned in my earlier post and would not have to be concerned about any unwanted side effects.

Here is the website of a well informed MD who speaks very openly about fluoride... http://www.drjaygordon.com/developme...s/fluoride.asp

The information I offer here is to help others become better informed as I know too well how misinformed most of us are about things we have no knowledge about...... :-)

Bryanna





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Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 530891)
Thank you Kitty.

Thank you Bryanna. I looked at my teeth with a flashlight last night,and I see a yellow teethline all the way back to the end of my teeth.

It's not plague. I brush,floss,and wear a nite guard.

It must be the Seroquel. The seroquel has also caused my left ear to ring.

My Dentist has given me a prescription tooth past called Fluoridex. It has Xylitol in it. That's one of the things that you said would be good for me.

My Dentist said brush with Fluoridex a half an hour before bed,and do not rinse my mouth out.

I don't drink alcohol. Thanks for the information.

This resent tooth problem has me scared. I don't want to loose my teeth. I have all of my teeth,and have my teeth checked every six months.

The ringing in my left ear is another side affect from seroquel. I had no idea that these side affects existed,and have caused both problems. BF:grouphug::icon_frown:


Brokenfriend 06-30-2009 12:12 AM

Gosh! He's a excellent dentist,much better then the one I had 20 years ago.

What do you think about these 16.9 Fl Oz Purified Drinking Water plastic bottles? I drink about 6,or so a day.

That's the other thing that I increased in the last six months.

I use to drink from the Jugs of spring water.

The water that comes out of the faucet here in this small town is slightly discolored sometimes. Sometimes the water is slightly light brown. Because of this,I don't drink the water from the town supply anymore. (Only when brushing my teeth.)

At the supermarket in this area,they sell these plastic bottles in bulk of water,so I've been drinking them. Do you think these bottles are harmful?

Maybe it's the seroquel,and these bottles of water.

I'm mixed up,and confused. These are the two things that I've changed resently.

Thank you for all of your advice. BF:hug:

Kitt 06-30-2009 09:25 AM

Depending on how old and how they are stored, plastic bottles can leach substances. Spring water you buy in bottles is no better than water from your tap. In fact lots of bottled water is taken from your tap. here is an example: http://www.rd.com/your-america-inspi...icle51807.html

http://www.communitywater.com/core/c...pvsbottled.htm

And there are many other articles.

Brokenfriend 06-30-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryanna (Post 530645)
Hi Brokenfriend,

I'm sorry to hear that you are having this cavity problem. There may be a few things that are contributing to this sudden outbreak of cavities.

Generally gum line cavities are caused by the following issues:

.......Chronic dry mouth called xerostomia. This occurs as a side effect from many medications, one of them being "Seroquel". The meds cause a decrease in the flow of saliva which leaves the teeth vulnerable to bacteria causing decay. Teeth need to be constantly bathed in saliva as a resistant mechanism from tooth decay. This dry mouth condition also occurs if you are a mouth breather, especially when you sleep.

........ Another reason for gumline cavities is a build up of plaque. Plaque is made up of unremoved food debris that grows bacteria on it which causes tooth decay.

.....Another is gingivitis or periodontal disease. When the gums along the gumline become puffy it is a perfect hiding place for the overgrowth of plaque and bacteria.

...... Another reason is if the PH level in your saliva is too acidic. This causes erosion on the teeth and makes a person more susceptible to cavities.

.........Another one is the use of mouthwash that contains alcohol, like listerine. Alcohol is a drying agent and it causes a major decrease in salivary flow predisposing the user to tooth decay.

The yellow banding around the teeth can be the actual early stages of tooth decay. Aside from the Seroquel, are you aware that you have any of the other above issues?

To help combat chronic dry mouth it is imperative that you do not ever use a mouthwash that contains alcohol. However, using a great product that not only reduces the incidence of tooth decay but also encourages more saliva flow is called Xylitol. The best and least expensive way to use this is to buy Xylosweet in either small packets or in bulk containers and simply add one packet or one teaspoon to a small cup of water and rinse daily with it at night just before you go to sleep. I have personally seen it work wonders in many patients who stick with it every day!

FYI.... Xylosweet can be purchased in some grocery stores or online at vitacost.com. Here is a link that tells all about it...
http://www.jigsawhealth.com/products...t_xylitol.html

Hope this info is helpful!
Bryanna

Thank you Bryanna

I could not find the Xylosweet at the two Supermarkets in this area. The only thing that I found was"ideal" Packets. It's a No Calorie sweetener. It has Xylitol in it.

I also bought some chewing gum with Xylitol. Thank you so much for letting me know about Xylitol. I just had some Oatmeal with the "Ideal" sweetner. I bought 4 boxes of it,and it has 50 Packets in each box.

My mouth has gotten dry at bed time,an hour after I take the Seroquel. Some times I'd open my mouth to breath,with the Night Guard in my mouth.

I don't want to loose any of my teeth. BF:)

Brokenfriend 06-30-2009 06:34 PM

Bryanna
 
I read what you said about the PH level in saliva. You said some peoples saliva is too acidic.

What can be done if a persons saliva is to acidic?

I'm sorry for asking so many questions. BF

Bryanna 07-01-2009 07:24 PM

Hi Brokenfriend,

Please DO NOT rinse or use Ideal sweetener. It contains sucralose which is Chlorocarbon. It is in the same family as DDT and PCB's. Sucralose is toxic and should never be used for human consumption.

Just because a product lists xylitol in it's ingredients does not mean that the other ingredients are harmless. The only way to use Xylitol properly is in it's purest form. Xylosweet is in the purest form. Some large chain drug stores, supermarkets, health food stores and various places online sell Xylosweet.

So please return the Ideal sweetener to the store and continue your search for Xylosweet. It really can make a difference in the health of your teeth!

Bryanna




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Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 531316)
Thank you Bryanna

I could not find the Xylosweet at the two Supermarkets in this area. The only thing that I found was"ideal" Packets. It's a No Calorie sweetener. It has Xylitol in it.

I also bought some chewing gum with Xylitol. Thank you so much for letting me know about Xylitol. I just had some Oatmeal with the "Ideal" sweetner. I bought 4 boxes of it,and it has 50 Packets in each box.

My mouth has gotten dry at bed time,an hour after I take the Seroquel. Some times I'd open my mouth to breath,with the Night Guard in my mouth.

I don't want to loose any of my teeth. BF:)


Brokenfriend 07-01-2009 07:43 PM

Thank you Bryanna
 
So "ideal" has sucralose,which is in the same family as DDT. Gosh! Do these people know what's in their product,and they are making it anyway? Dang! It's suppose to be safe,and they are deceiveing the public. Thank you for letting me know. BF:hug::hug:

Bryanna 07-01-2009 07:49 PM

Brokenfriend, never apologize to me for asking questions. I am always willing to share information with others.. :-))

You can purchase alkaline test strips online or in a drug store to use at home. They are to be used first thing in the morning before any food. These are clear indicators of elevated ph levels in the saliva.

Here are few things that can cause an acidic saliva.......

Dry mouth.
Certain diets that contain acidic foods, hard candies, sugury foods.
GERD.
Sipping on soda or fruit juice drinks throughout the day can alter the ph of the saliva making it acidic.

Dealing with the dry mouth is one piece of the puzzle and the Xylosweet will help with that alot. Being mindful of the diet including what you drink is another. And proper oral hygiene, toothbrushing and flossing every day will also help. Avoid anything you can (other than your meds) that causes you to have a dry mouth such as alcohol based mouthwashes. Sometimes making some simple lifestyle changes wherever possible can make the world of difference!

Try not to let the cavity thing worrry you. There are ways to help prevent them and although it doesn't happen overnight, the benefits of the things I have mentioned will be seen in the long term!

I'm never far away if you should have more questions :-))
Bryanna





Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 531325)
I read what you said about the PH level in saliva. You said some peoples saliva is too acidic.

What can be done if a persons saliva is to acidic?

I'm sorry for asking so many questions. BF


Bryanna 07-01-2009 07:56 PM

Hi BF,

He may be a good dentist but if he is prescribing fluoride and not xylitol he is not up to date on the current information. Perhaps you could enlighten him with something downloaded from the internet about Xylosweet??

I am not a big advocate of plastic bottles or plastic food containers for that matter. I use glass whenever possible.

The description of your tap water does not sound very good. NOT even for brushing your teeth with. Do you have any idea what is in the water supply that is turning it to a brown color?? Do you have a well or city water? Could it be high in iron? Is there any way you could put a filter on your water faucet, like Pur or Brita for example? Then you could fill a glass bottle with the filtered water!

Bryanna





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Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 530967)
Gosh! He's a excellent dentist,much better then the one I had 20 years ago.

What do you think about these 16.9 Fl Oz Purified Drinking Water plastic bottles? I drink about 6,or so a day.

That's the other thing that I increased in the last six months.

I use to drink from the Jugs of spring water.

The water that comes out of the faucet here in this small town is slightly discolored sometimes. Sometimes the water is slightly light brown. Because of this,I don't drink the water from the town supply anymore. (Only when brushing my teeth.)

At the supermarket in this area,they sell these plastic bottles in bulk of water,so I've been drinking them. Do you think these bottles are harmful?

Maybe it's the seroquel,and these bottles of water.

I'm mixed up,and confused. These are the two things that I've changed resently.

Thank you for all of your advice. BF:hug:


Bryanna 07-01-2009 08:16 PM

I know!! It should be a crime to market things like this to the public. But instead, they are carefully marketed so they appeal to the average person who is not a skeptic like me!!

Like the advertisement of cigarettes............ the ads are usually of beautiful, healthy, happy looking people........ now how ironic is that???!

Thank goodness we have this luxury of sharing information on the web..... I learn something new every day!!

Bryanna




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Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 531834)
So "ideal" has sucralose,which is in the same family as DDT. Gosh! Do these people know what's in their product,and they are making it anyway? Dang! It's suppose to be safe,and they are deceiveing the public. Thank you for letting me know. BF:hug::hug:


Brokenfriend 07-01-2009 09:14 PM

Thank you Bryanna
 
I just saw in the Trident Xtra Care gum ingrediences,that they say strengthens your teeth has Less then 2% aspertame. Less then 2% compared to what? Dang! It has Xylitol in it,but it has other things in it too.

The directions on cleaning this Night guard of mine says use soap,and water only. So I do that. Can you use any kind of soap. I may be using the wrong soap. I've been using "Coast"soap. This is strong soap,and maybe I should not be using it.

I don't have a well. It's the city water. I've seen the light brown affect occasionally,which has me concerned. I think that it's been only in the last year,or so. This city is way off the beaten path. It makes me wonder. BF

Kitt 07-02-2009 12:51 PM

Hi,

Just a thought, the light brown effect in the water could be due to the city working on the water main somewhere in your town. Then when they turn the water back on, it breaks the rust loose. Thus the light brown effect.

Or, it's possible that they do not flush the hydrants and water mains on a regular basis. You could put a filter on your faucet. You also should ask the city what the reason is for the light brown effect of the water now and then.

It happens in our little town when they have to work on the mains, etc. Hope this helps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 531881)
I just saw in the Trident Xtra Care gum ingrediences,that they say strengthens your teeth has Less then 2% aspertame. Less then 2% compared to what? Dang! It has Xylitol in it,but it has other things in it too.

The directions on cleaning this Night guard of mine says use soap,and water only. So I do that. Can you use any kind of soap. I may be using the wrong soap. I've been using "Coast"soap. This is strong soap,and maybe I should not be using it.

I don't have a well. It's the city water. I've seen the light brown affect occasionally,which has me concerned. I think that it's been only in the last year,or so. This city is way off the beaten path. It makes me wonder. BF


Bryanna 07-02-2009 06:45 PM

Hey BF,

I know there are alot of products on the market that list xylitol in the ingredients. This is because of the studies that have been done showing the health benefits of using it. However, it is SO important to read the label because SO many products are loaded with toxic chemicals, preservatives and carcinogens. It is best to buy a product in it's purest form if at all possible.

With regard to your nightguard......... yes it makes a difference what soap you use and coast soap is not a good idea. Rule of thumb.... if you cannot eat it, then don't wash or soak your dental appliances in it. The exception to this rule is bleach and dentures. It is a good idea to wash dentures in a bleach and water solution occasionally to disinfect them. However, if you clean your nightguard thoroughly with toothpaste and a denture brush every morning, there will be no residue buildup on the appliance and no bacteria.
A great natural soap that is also a disinfectant and can be used on all removable dental appliances is Dr Bronners peppermint soap. It is digestible and biodegradable.

If you are looking for a healthy gum with Xylitol in, try Spry gum. Some health food stores carry it or you can buy it online. Spry also carries Xylitol peppermints which are awesome!

Bryanna



Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 531881)
I just saw in the Trident Xtra Care gum ingrediences,that they say strengthens your teeth has Less then 2% aspertame. Less then 2% compared to what? Dang! It has Xylitol in it,but it has other things in it too.

The directions on cleaning this Night guard of mine says use soap,and water only. So I do that. Can you use any kind of soap. I may be using the wrong soap. I've been using "Coast"soap. This is strong soap,and maybe I should not be using it.

I don't have a well. It's the city water. I've seen the light brown affect occasionally,which has me concerned. I think that it's been only in the last year,or so. This city is way off the beaten path. It makes me wonder. BF


Brokenfriend 07-02-2009 10:19 PM

Thank you Kitt for the information.

Bryanna Thanks for all of those good ideas. I'd better wash the night guard with tooth past tonight.

I got (KAL)Xylitol from the Vitamin Store. That is pure according to what they say. It cost $22,for 2 pounds. I went to the Capital city of my state,and I still can't find Xylosweet. When I order something on line,the UPS people deliver it to the building across the parking lot. I usually get it straightened out though.

I tried some Kal Xylitol,and desolved it into some water. It's not to sweet. I guess true Xylitol isn't very sweet. That's OK. I'm not looking for a sweet tast. I'm trying to save my teeth. Thanks for all of the good advice. BF:)

Bryanna 07-03-2009 10:40 AM

Hey BF,

KAL makes good products and it's certainly a good one to start with. I have found that the taste of xylitol is not as sweet as conventional sugar, but I prefer a less sweet taste myself.

I hope you're able to keep up with the rinsing, brushing and flossing.... whew!... and that there is a significant positive difference at your next dental check up!

You are welcome for the info......... anytime!! It's always good to hear from you ~'.'~

Bryanna



Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 532338)
Thank you Kitt for the information.

Bryanna Thanks for all of those good ideas. I'd better wash the night guard with tooth past tonight.

I got (KAL)Xylitol from the Vitamin Store. That is pure according to what they say. It cost $22,for 2 pounds. I went to the Capital city of my state,and I still can't find Xylosweet. When I order something on line,the UPS people deliver it to the building across the parking lot. I usually get it straightened out though.

I tried some Kal Xylitol,and desolved it into some water. It's not to sweet. I guess true Xylitol isn't very sweet. That's OK. I'm not looking for a sweet tast. I'm trying to save my teeth. Thanks for all of the good advice. BF:)


Brokenfriend 07-03-2009 08:01 PM

Thank you Bryanna
 
Thank you for all of the dental advice. I've never had cavity problems of this magnitude before in a very short period of time. Thank you for all of the advice,and information. BF:)


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