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Shezian 04-10-2012 03:11 AM

Vitamins
 
Hi
If all my vitamin tests are normal, is there anything else l can do to help myself?

Today, l spoke to a couple of PN support groups and we l got off the phone with them, l was so depressed. I am only 41. Not sure l can deal with this. It sounds like l have got great pain to look forward to for the rest of my life. :(


I have twin girls to watch grow up, how can l do thi now???? I am just so anxiouse and depressed, even though l haven,t been diagnosed properly yet.

It just seems like l am am on a downward spiral.

:(:(:(

Sue

mrsD 04-10-2012 09:56 AM

Vitamins are only a small part of PN support.

There are other substances, and also removal of your trigger to consider. I answered you on the other thread you have.

Many medical issues are what is called "self limiting". Doctors know that with some time, many symptoms pass and whatever caused them is gone. Viruses typically are blamed.

But brief metabolic derangements can cause paresthesias (odd sensations in the peripheral nervous system).

Food additives can cause this. Low Vit D can cause sensations due to deranged calcium absorption. Even over breathing can cause changes in the buffering system in the blood (this is the
basis for "panic" attacks).

At your age you are no longer in that "young" category. Entering middle age for females are hormone changes, and other chronic things that may begin. Your feet are telling you something, you just have to learn how to listen to them.

Sallysblooms 04-10-2012 01:18 PM

What vitamins were you tested for? There are so many great supplements, not just vitamins to help. Antioxidents like Alpha Lipoic Acid etc... Benfotiamine and others can help too. Food helps also, large amounts of Kale etc, grass fed beef, sea veggies, and much more is needed.

I agree, you do have many other things you can do also. Toxins of all sorts must be removed...sugar, carbs, additives.

I was VERY low in Vit D and Seratonin so I took Vit D and 5HTP. Seratonin is up now and I am fine. I have a good integrative MD that knows how to help with mood and nutrients to get the levels up.

Susanne C. 04-10-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 868360)
Vitamins are only a small part of PN support.

There are other substances, and also removal of your trigger to consider. I answered you on the other thread you have.

Many medical issues are what is called "self limiting". Doctors know that with some time, many symptoms pass and whatever caused them is gone. Viruses typically are blamed.

But brief metabolic derangements can cause paresthesias (odd sensations in the peripheral nervous system).

Food additives can cause this. Low Vit D can cause sensations due to deranged calcium absorption. Even over breathing can cause changes in the buffering system in the blood (this is the
basis for "panic" attacks).

At your age you are no longer in that "young" category. Entering middle age for females are hormone changes, and other chronic things that may begin. Your feet are telling you something, you just have to learn how to listen to them.

A good point about 41 not being young. The changes in my health though my 40's have been dizzying! I feel that I was lucky to get by as well as I have for as long as I have. Life expectancy may have changed dramatically largely due to childhood vaccinations and hygiene, but most cultures considered the 40's to be the start of the grandma years, and that is just the way it is. There is a reason for the old Norwegian saying that after 40 all a woman should be expected to do is sit and knit. (I wish I could take more advantage of this idea...)

Shezian 04-10-2012 08:11 PM

Could you please..
 
Tell me what l do right now to help myself? What to eat,and what kinds of mineral, vitamins, etc, etc are important to take. I just don,t want anymore damage to be done to my nerves. I am pretty sure all of my b vitamins are great. Magnesium is also normal. I eat pumkin seeds every day and eat salmon and red meat regularly as my iron stores are always on the low side and my Heamoglobin even lower. So l have to eat red meat at least 3 times per week.

Yes, l guess 41 isn,t that young anymore, but when l see all the other 41 year old mums who are overweight and l am not, they don,t have PN. So why me????

By the way what is MD?

Thanks again to you all, it's nice to know l am not alone. And that it could be a passing thing. Hopefully, fingers crossed.



Sue

Sallysblooms 04-10-2012 09:27 PM

Alpha Lipoic Acid and Benfotiamine (Fat and water soluble Vit B1) are important. Vit D and B12 level needs to be good, Fish oil is important, l carnitine, B12 and other Vit B's, CoQ10, I take many supplements for my CFS and POTS (Autonomic Neuropathy) and I don't use added sugar or white carbs. Toxins have to be eliminated.

Many prescriptions can cause neuropathy so we have to be careful of antibiotics etc.

There is a lot we can do to heal.


This is a good article. We need to keep the smallest blood vessels healthy so the nerves get what they need.

http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2011/...es-nerve-pain/

Shezian 04-11-2012 02:24 AM

Where can l purchase
 
These health goods from? I am in Australia and the some are hard to find.
I have cQ10 sitting in my cupboard but my neuro, told me to take it and that not all so called natural things are good. So l took it didn't take it.

Can you list which ones l should buy?

Thanks for the article, very interesting read and gives me hope.


Sue

mrsD 04-11-2012 06:29 AM

MD in US is an abbreviation for Medical Doctor.

The diet you choose can be anything, low in sugars and starchy carbs (you can have some in very small moderation).

Good choice of veggies of various colors, and some fruit like strawberries/blueberries for their antioxidants.

Watch the nightshades in case they are causing your burning.
Potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, eggplant. Avoid these for a month, and see if you have improvements.

Watch the wine, in case the sulfites are your trigger.

If these turn out to not be your trigger, then avoid gluten for 3 months and see if you improve.

MSG food additive is very difficult and should be avoided, as it causes pain in some people. It is very bad for PNers.

Why are you low in iron? Do you have low stomach acid? Acid is necessary to absorb iron, from food. Low acid means you cannot break up protein as well.

Instead of running, I'd do walks instead for now.

Shezian 04-11-2012 07:09 AM

A few things
 
To ask you. Is do you think l should risk having a glass or two of wine? Do you think l will know straight away if this is a trigger. I just con,t want to damage anymore nerves. I asked my MD and she said it is highly unlikely that this could have been caused by alcohol. My health comes first, but l Enjoy a nice glass here and there, but l will never again drink that much again. This has been a real wake up call, hopefully it is not too late to heal. Thats,even if alcohol was the cause. Life is too short to be sick, but it is also too short not to do the things we enjoy, so it's finding the balance.

Now on the iron. My iron has always been borderline low but my haemoglobin has been lower. Not sure why. Do you think it's because l run and stomach acid?

I used to take iron supplements (ferro graduate, l think that's how you spell it), but read somewhere it isn't,t good for the stomach, so l stopped about a year ago. Then l had kangaroo meat, and l got all dizzy from the taurine l think in the meat as its very tough, but lean meat, double the iron than normal red meat. After having kangaroo last year l had another blood test to see how my iron is and it was normal for the first time without supplements, but still my haemoglobin was low. Googled it many times and cannot seem to find out why this is? That is a mystery, all the Doctors cannot understand it and now just accept that it is normal for me.

Sue

mrsD 04-11-2012 07:33 AM

If your hemoglobin is low, oxygen cannot get to the feet and hands which are the farthest from the heart.
Low hemoglobin may also cause nerve twitching since not enough oxygen is getting to muscles which use alot of it.

Hemoglobin carries oxygen.

http://tropej.oxfordjournals.org/con...4/204.abstract
This study on children found that anemia had effects on nerve conduction.

You might want to further investigate your hemoglobin problems in more detail.

Shezian 04-12-2012 06:17 AM

The thing is, l cannot understand how my iron can be normal, (still in the lower range though), and my haemoglobin low. This doesn't mean l am anemic does it? This is the confusing part for me.

Also l heard that taking iron supplements are bad for the body? Do you think this is true?

Very interesting article about the children and iron. Its amazing that IDA can cause NP?

Have to look further into this one. But tried googling normal iron and low haemoglobin and couldn't really find an answer, apart from anemia always showing up. Couldn't actually find what this meant.

The doctors don't seem to think its a problem. As my haemoglobin is just below the lowest it should be. So not sure what to do.

Sue

mrsD 04-12-2012 05:01 PM

Doctors are really responsible for you when initiating iron supplementation.

I'd get your test results copied so you can look them up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shezian (Post 869063)
The thing is, l cannot understand how my iron can be normal, (still in the lower range though), and my haemoglobin low. This doesn't mean l am anemic does it? This is the confusing part for me.

Also l heard that taking iron supplements are bad for the body? Do you think this is true?

Very interesting article about the children and iron. Its amazing that IDA can cause NP?

Have to look further into this one. But tried googling normal iron and low haemoglobin and couldn't really find an answer, apart from anemia always showing up. Couldn't actually find what this meant.

The doctors don't seem to think its a problem. As my haemoglobin is just below the lowest it should be. So not sure what to do.

Sue


mrsD 04-12-2012 06:03 PM

http://www.medicinenet.com/hemoglobin/article.htm

Shezian 04-12-2012 08:07 PM

I have kept all my blood test results for the last 10 years.

Do you suggest l google the results of haemoglobin in the search bar?

Also, are you saying that the doctors are not keen on prescribing iron tablets?

Thanks sue:)

Bad2thebone 04-12-2012 09:54 PM

I feel your pain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shezian (Post 868276)
Hi
If all my vitamin tests are normal, is there anything else l can do to help myself?

Today, l spoke to a couple of PN support groups and we l got off the phone with them, l was so depressed. I am only 41. Not sure l can deal with this. It sounds like l have got great pain to look forward to for the rest of my life. :(


I have twin girls to watch grow up, how can l do thi now???? I am just so anxiouse and depressed, even though l haven,t been diagnosed properly yet.

It just seems like l am am on a downward spiral.

:(:(:(

Sue

Hello Sue,
My name is Eileen and I am 52 years old and I have worked all my life standing and now I feel like I am 85. I have so much problems with my feet that no doctor wants to operate. I have spent so much money on so many things from accupunture to oils and medicine. But I do belive to go to a natural health food store and talk to some one about how your feeling. I am in chronic pain and depressed and anxiety all rolled up to ADHD also. Sometimes I say why can't there be a cure for this? Pray to the only one who can heal you and guide you to the right direction. Jesus is the name.
I pray you get better.
hugs, Eileen

mrsD 04-13-2012 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shezian (Post 869297)
I have kept all my blood test results for the last 10 years.

Do you suggest l google the results of haemoglobin in the search bar?

Also, are you saying that the doctors are not keen on prescribing iron tablets?

Thanks sue:)

Iron is one supplement that people need medical supervision to use safely. Too much iron will be stored in the body in a toxic way. I don't recommend iron unless people have evidence of anemia and a doctor has told them how much to take and for how long. Sometimes it is only for a few months.

Poor acid quality in the stomach, from drugs like Zantac or Prilosec will reduce iron absorption, as acid is a cofactor for proper iron absorption from food.

Anemia can be common in women who have heavy periods. This happens typically just before menopause starts for some of them.

Shezian 04-13-2012 08:10 PM

My periods are very light, so that is the culprit.
I just wonder if this can be hereditary? After reading the article MrsD sent, it states if my haemoglobin is low l am anaemic.

Sue


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