Any thoughts how this could have happened?
 

I have been on ssdi since 2001 and i always get a 3 year review. Last april i got my 3 year review. It was the 6 question cdr and on the paper, it showed that my 3 year review number was now a 7 year review number.
Well today i just got the 6 question cdr form in the mail today. How could this have happened, where normally have a 3 year review to getting a 1 year review?
Am totally freaking out. I have a cage in my neck with a bunch of other bad discs in neck and lower back. Do they really think my health has improved from 15 years ago?

This month i did apply for a mortgage to buy a house. Could this some how have triggered SS to send me this form?

Am 53 years old and thought i wouldnt have to deal with this stuff for awhile.

Now today i get bombed with this crap.

any ideas would be greatly appreciated
thanks

Bobby

heres some more info

My codes have me listed as Low with a profile score of 0024, which is low right?

that is a very low number, the lowest ive personally actually heard anyone have. i dont know why they would send you another short form after just a year. my number is just a little higher than yours and i got the short form in june with a 3 year review date, which i guess means nothing now. its really strange that yours went to 7 years this time yet they sent you one a year later. maybe they are sending everone one ever year now? who knows.

is the house in another state? are you moving to another state? thats all i can think of.

Hello Echoes,
Nope the house is only around 5 miles from current house and its sad the only reason am even moving is because of my neighbors. They poisoned my cat and basically have a tailgate party every single day. I figured the best thing i could do is just move before i did something crazy.

I have been all happy about finally finding a house after spending 2 years looking and was looking forward to getting out of here by december, then i get hit with this letter today.

Last april when i got the cdr the coding in the letter had been changed from a 3 to a 7 year with a low rating and profile score of 0055. So i figured once i got thru that cdr, i wouldnt get another one for 7 years.

Now in todays cdr, my number is back to a 3 year with a low rating and profile score of 0024

My code for original approval is 7240 Disorders of Back (Discogenic and Degenerative)

I have not taken any schooling courses, nor have i went to work anywhere.

I understand they have to check on people, but why another cdr for me a year later, when i have been on ssdi since 2001. Do they really think my neck and back could have i proved since then? A healthy persons health isnt even going to be the same 14 years later.

On top of having high blood pressure, Afib, diabetes, i also have mental health issuses including ptsd which came about thru my neck injury from my job as a firefighter.

Are they sending me this cdr again, so they can turn around and hit me with another long form review which i went thru in 2008.

This just doesnt make any sense and now my stress is thru the roof and the happy thoughts of moving and getting some peace and quiet is gone.

Now i have to figure out how to answers these 6 questions again so soon.
Like have me and my doctor discussed if i can work. My doctor as already stated, no i cant work. My jobs in life have all been labor intense jobs, so i cant do any of them. I dont see my neck surgeon,unless i need another surgery. I asked before if i could come every 6 months or even every year. They said no, unless am having actually problems.
I spend enough time at all my other doctors as it is.

The other question is my health worse. I believe am a little worse then last year, but afraid to check that, for fear of it causing the long review.

12-18 month reviews are usually set up for people that first get ssdi and might improve.

Thanks for listening Echoes, you have been around here a long time and your help is always greatly appreciated
Thanks
Bobby

p.s. the one year when i had the full review, i actually sent ss a 1 year printout of all my meds, it was 4 pages long.

i dont understand it either.

if your health is worse check that its worse.

https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0440502001

go almost to the bottom of the page to this section (about 1/5 of the way up the page from the bottom)

d. DE/DEC/DC review and decision-making

look at the boxes below it, that may answer some of your questions about the 6 questions.

Thank you for the good info link.
I called ss today to ask them why i got this in the mail so soon, but the girl i got wasnt nice and really couldnt give me any answers.

Should i go down to my local ss office and have them explain why this could have happened or just fill it out and send it in again.
I dont get why with such a low profile score, am being sent this stuff so often. You would think i wouldnt be one of their top priorities

The funny part in all this is, back in 2001 i was approved on my first try in 4 months of sending application in. I mean you would think, if my case was weak, back then they would have at least denied me once.


The stress of this, is now making me debate if i should just walk away from buying the house and staying where iam.


Thanks again Echoes
Bobby

My take on it
 

Dear Bobby,

I don't know much and would defer to Echoes for sure on any SS advice.

If it were ME, I would go through with the plans on moving. I realize how stressful you must feel about another review so quickly, but since you have been on SS for so many years, have NOT improved, you should be victorious after another review. You can't live your life around a notice from SS.

Go about your life as you plan and worry about packing. SS will be what it will be and you will be wasting your time worrying about it. I would submit the form, and until you hear otherwise, you are still covered. Should the day come when they say they are going to rescind your benefits, then you can worry and also appeal that decision.

Worry will not change anything but I do know how stressful you must feel.

Wishing you the best and let us know how things proceed. (Just my take on it.)

Could you have put anything on the mortgage application to show that you have "earned" income above the amount allowed under the rules of SSDI ?

THAT would trigger a review in my mind.

If you state the ability and earnings above the SGA level, they would most definitely consider that you have improved enough to earn substantial gainful income.

You sound as if you're obsessing and fretting over this. Calm down. It will be resolved. And you'll wonder why you worked yourself up. :o

i would just fill it out and send it in. i doubt you will get any answers from anyone since the people you will talk to dont really know themselves why you got it. It sounds like you will have a lot less stress if you move so i would just move anyway and live my life and take the paperwork as it comes. Easy for me to say i know, and i understand why you are concerned, but we cant stop living.

Only income i put on the application, is my firefighter disability pension and social security. I have not earned any other money in last 14 years

Thank you Hopeless for the kind words. When i was working stress never bothered me one bit, even in the stressful job i had.
But the last 14 years of constantly having this ssdi stuff hanging over my head has just ruined those last 14 years. The stress is just flat out eating me away as am sure it does to everybody else dealing with ssdi.
I just wish that i could be back to my old job and not having to rely on ssdi, as am sure everybody else feels the same way.
When i got last years review and saw that they finally changed my dairy date to 7 years, i was finally able to relax and say, i could start enjoying some life again. But then when i got the mail today, i was reading my mortgage paperwork that came today and hope my rate got locked in and was happy. Then i saw the SSDI letter and my stomach dropped. The thing that really gets me, is if ssdi has me in the computers with such a low profile score, why would they send me out another letter in only a year. Does their computer system not work or am i just that unlucky.

Your advice to just keep living life and not worry about the ssdi stuff is right on the money. I just dont know if my mind will let that happen for me.
If i let the ssdi stuff get to me and i cancel the house, then am stuck living some of the worst neighbors anyone could ever be around{and iam not kidding, rotten people to the core}

Thanks for the good advice
Bobby

am trying to relax, just finding it real tough. Spent majority of today just sleeping and having racing thoughts

Your right, going down there isnt gonna get me any answers and am sure they arent gonna say it was a big mistake and i dont have to even fill the paper work out,lollll

Thanks
Bobby

Dear Bobby,

Chronic conditions and pain magnify everything, including stress.

I personally have found myself get wound up tight like a spinning top since I became disabled. Things that used to just roll off my back like water off a duck now will send me into a complete tizzy.

Little things seem to fester and boil that previously were easily shrugged off.

There have been times where I wonder where I went and who is this person that replaced me that looks back in the mirror at me. It sure does not have the same disposition and personality I had.

Some days, I will see glimpses of my former self, but pain and suffering do take a toll on us in many ways.

Moving away from those neighbors sounds like a really good thing and may help reduce some of your stress levels. Now, if SS will let you be, you could go back to your life and eliminate the stress they are causing you, too.

About the SS review,.... it could be that your "income" on the mortgage paperwork may have been a trigger, but as easily as you clarified that in your post, that may be all that it would take to clarify it with SS. They may have thought it was current "earnings" from current work.

Like I said, I don't know much about it and would defer to others more informed, but it may just be that simple. I don't know why or how SS would know about the mortgage application but I also don't know how a lot of information gets disseminated to other sources.

ie, I don't know how my life history got on Goggle. I did not post it. I don't have Facebook, Twitter, or any "public" internet stuff but Google knows more about me than I do.

Guess privacy is a thing of the past for sure these days.

Your post pretty much describes me and i how feel everyday. You nailed it perfectly. Some days i also dont know who iam anymore. Life just seems like i have this huge ssdi cloud constantly hanging over my head. The money we all get from ssdi is a very nice thing, but the stress that comes along with it, a lot of times makes the money not worth it. Am not against reviews and checking people out, but after you check them out and see they have conditions that arent going to get better and will stay the same or get worse, then leave them alone and let them have some quality of peace in their life, since dealing with any type of disability is hard enough. In my case, i still have a cage in my neck and i still have bad discs in my neck and back, that havent magically gotten better in 14 years. Hell even if i never got hurt at age 39, 14 years later in life my health isnt gonna be as good as it was then. Every year that goes by even for healthy people, they become less healthy, its just part of life for all of us. So for ssdi to think people with disabilities are some how going to get better in conditions that dont get better with time, is frustrating.
I guess i just get mad because i worked a job dedicated to helping people and now when i need help, it feels like some govt agency is busing my chops.
In the end it should all work out, but the stress that goes with it, just aint fair. I have afib and diabetes, that combo alone makes me 30 times more likely to have a stroke or heart attack, stress certainly wont help that number,loll

Its funny about the mortgage thing. My paperwork that came today, showed my lock in date as oct 15 and my ssdi paperwork had an oct 16th date. I dont know much how ssdi operates, but i would think if they thought i was working and making money, send me a letter just asking that and not about my doctors appts again.

Thank you to everybody for listening to me, when am sure each and every one of you also have your own problems to deal with with daily

Bobby

Hopeless,
yes privacy is long gone with todays technology. Last week i got a letter from blue cross telling me they had a cyber attack on their systems and that my personal info could have been compromised. They said they would provide 2 years of credit monitoring. Lot of good that will do, when some person in another country has all my info to do what they want.

Todays techonology is great, but it also sucks bigtime. Thats a big reason why i still just use a flip phone and not all these smart phone things. Am like a dinosaur, when people see the phone i use,lollllllll

Your local office does not know the formula for choosing CDR' s nor do they have any authority to decide one is not needed. One employee who works the CDR list might have a guess, but even that is doubtful since this is centrally controlled.

I don't think you will ever find out why you were selected so soon. Could be a programming error. I am certain however that it has nothing to do with your decision to buy a house. SSDI does not have any access to that. And it has zero to do with a decision about whether or not you are disabled.

Fill out the form, make a copy, send it in and go about living your life the same way you did before. You need to also figure out how to not obsess over something you have no control over. May not be easy.

Thanks
 

So glad to see your post. Thanks for the help. I have no idea of how much "big brother" keeps track of us.

Dinosaur Group
 

My 26 year old niece told me the other day that I was still using the technology she had in the 3rd grade. She could not believe that I did not have a laptop, no wireless connections, etc.

Another casualty of being disabled. You lose the learning you picked up being in the work place, and also the funds to keep up with the newer technology.

Thank you for the info Janke, its greatly appreciated. I guess am still upset about it coming back so soon, when i have such a low score.
Bobby

Question about the question on the form that asks if you and your doctor have discussed if you can work. I had this talk with my surgeon way back when he discharged me. Hes written that am permanently disabled.
I guess what am asking is, does everybody ask this question, every time they see their doctors? Every time i get this form, that question always baffles me.

Echoes,
I re-read the link you posted in this thread and it appears that if you check you and your doctor havent talked if you can work doesnt hurt you. But then you have to wonder, is that what SS is telling us, so we wont be afraid to check that box.

I wonder how many just on this site have checked that box when they got this form.

I would just hate for that be the box, that kicks it out to the long form