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jon1 11-21-2015 11:42 PM

pn itch
 
H as anyone ever had or heard of neuropathic itch? There's lots of info online, but no definite treatment or time line.

First - I feel a slight itch. As I gently rub the itch, it itches more intensely quickly until it becomes a driving me crazy itch.

Next - I feel a small, soft bump under the skin.There is nothing to see at this point.

Then - a small maybe dime size flat, pink spot appears on the bump.

There are fewer than a dozen of these places on my body - not clumped.

This has been going on for over a month.

Some itch a few times and seem to disappear. Some itch a few times and, suddenly, there is what looks like a water blister on the flat, pink spot.

2 of those have gone away within 4 or 5 days, but they're still there - small, flat, pink and itching like crazy.

1 of these seemed about to pop. I put antibiotic cream and a bandaid on it for over a week with no change, It has gone down some, softened some and seems about to return to the flat stage.

Regardless of the stage, they all itch. I know better than to use nails. I
h on and around them but.... Anti itching cream.
, antihistamine..... Nothing!

My family doctor doesn't know what it is, but tends to agree with the neuropathic itch after I showed him my internet research.

No specialist in my small town, and I'm not able to get out of town to see one, so I'm praying one of you can give me some info or suggestions. Odd guesses would be better than nothing!!!!

Many thanks in advance,

Jon

mrsD 11-22-2015 10:06 AM

Try putting an antifungal cream like clotrimazole on them and cover as before. Fungal skin lesions itch like that.

They could also be hives. Using Benadryl cream may help if that is the case.

jon1 11-22-2015 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1184797)
Try putting an antifungal cream like clotrimazole on them and cover as before. Fungal skin lesions itch like that.

They could also be hives. Using Benadryl cream may help if that is the case.

mrsD, I ANSWERED YOUR KIND RESPONSE AS I'M WRITING THIS IN THIS SPACE. IT DISAPPEARED AS I FINISHED IT. ANY WAY TO FIND AND PRINT IT WITHOUT HAVING TO TRY A REWRITE???

THANKS, JON

Jomar 11-23-2015 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1 (Post 1184907)
mrsD, I ANSWERED YOUR KIND RESPONSE AS I'M WRITING THIS IN THIS SPACE. IT DISAPPEARED AS I FINISHED IT. ANY WAY TO FIND AND PRINT IT WITHOUT HAVING TO TRY A REWRITE???

THANKS, JON

The system may have "timed out" while you were typing.
They go poof if you don't use another tab or browser to re log in right away, and totally gone if you log off/leave site.

mrsD 11-23-2015 10:40 AM

@jon....

When you log in to NT, right next to your name is a little box called "remember me". If you check that, then you won't be timed out when you make a long post.

Some people make their long posts, in Word or Notepad, and then copy/paste them here into the text box.

There is a way to get a post back if you have multiple tabs open, and get mixed up. Hitting "back" on that lost post tab may bring it back. I've done that myself....but it can be dicey and you may have really lost it. I find typing on a iPhone, very dicey, and have lost posts that way with just touching the screen sometimes. So I don't make long posts when I am on my iPhone. Since the newest updates from Apple, my screen is so touchy it will seem to flip for no reason. :rolleyes:

So try the "remember me"... it works to save you time and effort.

zkrp01 11-23-2015 12:10 PM

Still pitching
 
It is worth a try to use Mortons Epsom Salt Lotion. You may have fungal or allergic stuff going on but try it and see if it helps. It helped me with burning so it might be good for itching. If something helps, I will stand and pitch for it. Good Luck, Ken in Texas.

jon1 11-25-2015 02:11 AM

neuroitch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zkrp01 (Post 1185011)
It is worth a try to use Mortons Epsom Salt Lotion. You may have fungal or allergic stuff going on but try it and see if it helps. It helped me with burning so it might be good for itching. If something helps, I will stand and pitch for it. Good Luck, Ken in Texas.

Thanks,Ken. I am a long time user of Epsom salts and most any homeopathic help, But it doesn't touch this. Fungus, allergies and most everything has been ruled out. And these places that I can rarely even see are the worst and deepest itch I've ever experienced.

As I wrote, I've tried all the anti-itching creams, antihistimines and some left over creams. I do know better, but I get desperate.

When my children were small and getting everything, I used to dissolve starch in their bath water, gently pat them off and let the starch do its thing on their skin. For chicken pox, measles, etc. Epson salts baths for lots of things. I've got tons of things like this that I'd rather use than meds.

But I'm 85, have pn, arthritis,lots of broken things, etc., so you can see how I've accumulated the natural cures as well as meds.

Thanks again for caring.





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jon1 11-25-2015 02:37 AM

Help on this site, please
 
got rid of some 'links' my posts could be submitted. I'm new but not very pc savvy. I know what links are, but not in this context. mrsD told me to click on the 'remember me' as I log in - which I do - but I really can't understand the rest of what mrsD told me.

Most of what I've read are things I don't understand (mostly medical terms ). Would you suggest that I look for another site that would be simpler for me?

Thanks, Jon

Jomar 11-25-2015 03:20 AM

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pinkynose 11-25-2015 10:31 AM

I've been thinking about this since you posted and still scratching my head (metaphorically.) I get PN itch occasionally but never a blister. Some years back I had an allergic reaction to mango and didn't realize it at the time. I managed to infect many body parts inadvertently. I had the same type of reaction you describes for 3 weeks intermittently without the blisters. Blisters makes me think it could be a form of the chicken pox virus. It's all I can come up with.

mrsD 11-25-2015 10:38 AM

Do you take an ACE inhibitor drug for blood pressure?

If so you might ask your doctor to switch you. ACE drugs increase bradykinin in the body and some people (even over time) get too much of this building up in the tissues. (ACE drugs are Vasotec, Lisinopril,

Benazepril (AKA Lotensin)

Captopril (AKA Capoten)

Enalapril (AKA Vasotec / Renitec)

Fosinopril (AKA Monopril)

Lisinopril (AKA Lisodur / Lopril / Novatec / Prinivil / Zestril)

Perindopril (AKA Coversy / Aceon)

Quinapril (AKA Accupril)

Ramipril (AKA Altace / Tritace / Ramace / Ramiwin)

Zofenopril

from http://theemtspot.com/2010/03/26/the...ce-inhibitors/

Bradykinin is similar to histamine, it will cause fluid to build up in the tissues, and that includes the skin. Antihistamines don't work on it however. So if you take an ACE drug, it could be a culprit... if not, then you have to keep looking.

Try putting a cold pack on the area that itches...that often will stop the feelings without overstimulating the skin.

zkrp01 11-25-2015 11:43 AM

Don' feel lonesome
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1 (Post 1185320)
got rid of some 'links' my posts could be submitted. I'm new but not very pc savvy. I know what links are, but not in this context. mrsD told me to click on the 'remember me' as I log in - which I do - but I really can't understand the rest of what mrsD told me.

Most of what I've read are things I don't understand (mostly medical terms ). Would you suggest that I look for another site that would be simpler for me?

Thanks, Jon

I have been here about two years and know just enough to get by. After a while you can click on a persons name and talk to them only. The search function needs 4 charachters at least to do a search. When you log in if you click the remember me box, you can go outside and smoke a cigarette and still be logged in when you come bacl. That really helps if you are long-winded like I am.haha.Most folks start by telling their symptoms and whether they are a diabetic or post chemotherapy, etc. We will ask you if you know your b-12 number. If you read the "stickies" these are the posts that give the skinny about certain subjects,ie,B-12. So don't give up, you can't hurt anything I don't think. All that medical jargon will make sense in a little while, we are just folks that are walking in front of you down the same road. Good Luck, Ken in Texas.

icelander 11-25-2015 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1 (Post 1184752)
H as anyone ever had or heard of neuropathic itch? There's lots of info online, but no definite treatment or time line.

First - I feel a slight itch. As I gently rub the itch, it itches more intensely quickly until it becomes a driving me crazy itch.

Next - I feel a small, soft bump under the skin.There is nothing to see at this point.

Then - a small maybe dime size flat, pink spot appears on the bump.

There are fewer than a dozen of these places on my body - not clumped.

This has been going on for over a month.

Some itch a few times and seem to disappear. Some itch a few times and, suddenly, there is what looks like a water blister on the flat, pink spot.

2 of those have gone away within 4 or 5 days, but they're still there - small, flat, pink and itching like crazy.

1 of these seemed about to pop. I put antibiotic cream and a bandaid on it for over a week with no change, It has gone down some, softened some and seems about to return to the flat stage.

Regardless of the stage, they all itch. I know better than to use nails. I
h on and around them but.... Anti itching cream.
, antihistamine..... Nothing!

My family doctor doesn't know what it is, but tends to agree with the neuropathic itch after I showed him my internet research.

No specialist in my small town, and I'm not able to get out of town to see one, so I'm praying one of you can give me some info or suggestions. Odd guesses would be better than nothing!!!!

Many thanks in advance,

Jon

I get this itch from using opioid painkillers, which btw work very well for my neuropathy but I have to use less than optimal amounts due to itching. The only thing that has helped so far is colloidal oatmeal. Instead of soaking in a bath I make a slurry of it in a small jar and paint it on my body. So far it's helped a lot and it's the only thing that has.

Jomar 11-25-2015 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1 (Post 1185320)
got rid of some 'links' my posts could be submitted. I'm new but not very pc savvy. I know what links are, but not in this context. mrsD told me to click on the 'remember me' as I log in - which I do - but I really can't understand the rest of what mrsD told me.

Most of what I've read are things I don't understand (mostly medical terms ). Would you suggest that I look for another site that would be simpler for me?

Thanks, Jon

I combined your threads into this one so it is easier for you to keep track of.

bluesfan 11-25-2015 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1 (Post 1185320)
got rid of some 'links' my posts could be submitted. I'm new but not very pc savvy. I know what links are, but not in this context. mrsD told me to click on the 'remember me' as I log in - which I do - but I really can't understand the rest of what mrsD told me.

Most of what I've read are things I don't understand (mostly medical terms ). Would you suggest that I look for another site that would be simpler for me?

Thanks, Jon

Hi jon1

Welcome to NT

Another thing you can do is to 'SUBSCRIBE" to any threads you make a post on (or that interest you), this then shows up as a check box on the lists which makes it easier for you to find them again. You can also find them again through the 'UserCP' - on the menu bar above, (Click 'View All Subscribed Threads' on the left.)

To subscribe to a thread; click on "Thread Tools", a drop down box appears, click on "Subscribe to this Thread" it will then go to a confirmation box "Add Subscription"- click that as well.

Feel free to ask any questions about how to get around the site or about terms you don't understand and someone will help out.
(or there's the Medical Dictionary at top right of screen)

jon1 11-25-2015 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkynose (Post 1185365)
I've been thinking about this since you posted and still scratching my head (metaphorically.) I get PN itch occasionally but never a blister. Some years back I had an allergic reaction to mango and didn't realize it at the time. I managed to infect many body parts inadvertently. I had the same type of reaction you describes for 3 weeks intermittently without the blisters. Blisters makes me think it could be a form of the chicken pox virus. It's all I can come up with.

Thanks, Pinky. I agree because shingles can come from having a latent chicken pox virus both of which are herpes zoster, I believe. In the info I've found, all these things are similar to the idiopathic itch I have. But nothing is mentioned specifically about a treatment or the length of time one may expect to taper off or stop.

Where we disagree is that it's gone on - I'm recounting - at least 2 months and the 3 blisters I've had haven't broken. They just flatten back down to a small pinkish area I can barely see. nothing is spreading. The same ones go through cycles of a slight itch to the maddening itch you can see - then back to nothing - no dry skin, no flaking, no scab etc. - just plain skin.

Maybe like pn, there is no cure - just coping.

jon1 12-01-2015 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkynose (Post 1185365)
I've been thinking about this since you posted and still scratching my head (metaphorically.) I get PN itch occasionally but never a blister. Some years back I had an allergic reaction to mango and didn't realize it at the time. I managed to infect many body parts inadvertently. I had the same type of reaction you describes for 3 weeks intermittently without the blisters. Blisters makes me think it could be a form of the chicken pox virus. It's all I can come up with.


Thanks, pinky.
I evidently did something wrong again since my reply to you last week wasn't printed. I'm going to write it again:::::

I think I agree with you somewhat. Shingles comes from chicken pox - both of which are herpes zoster. Info I found linked all this to this itch, but none of it mentioned a time span or effective treatment relief. Over 2 months now and the same places keep appearing with terrible itching - then totally disappearing until maybe a week later. 0ver and over. Never all at the same time but constantly a few.

When you get this, how long does it last and what helps you?

DavidHC 12-06-2015 11:29 AM

Yup, I get quite itchy too. A few times I've had soars that have opened and bled or gotten infected because of it. It's the worst on my feet though. I've heard there are some types of amyloidosis that can show up with an itch, I think it was on your upper back, but I'm not sure if that would apply for all over your body. I know it's relatively common, or certainly not uncommon. The itches on my feet just wouldn't go away, as though they were internal.

pinkynose 12-06-2015 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1 (Post 1186222)

When you get this, how long does it last and what helps you?

Jon, it only happened one time and best I remember it lasted approximately 3 weeks. I think mine was related to a mango allergy but never knew for sure. The itch I sometimes get now is what I understand to be a more typical one on my hands/feet.


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