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LizaJane 01-09-2007 12:05 PM

Magnets
 
I followed Brian's advice and ordered magnets. Five arrived. (They are very inexpensive). They are a ****** to separate. I was able to eventually peel one away and put it on my butt. The pain immediately faded. I am a good placebo responder, so maybe it's that, and things do wax and wane, but it could be a very simple way to get some specific relief.

But Brian--How do I separate these? If I use more than one, is it helpful to arrange them so current runs between, like an EMS machine? Do you put one at the top of the spine, for instance, and one at the bottom?

And how do you keep them from demagnetizing all your charge cards and metro passes?

mrsD 01-09-2007 02:11 PM

put a thin cardboard
 
between them, or a tough fabric. It is best just to keep them in separate
bottles/boxes.

There is a pole, that works best on the body. I believe, it is North up and S down...if you don't get results, reverse the mag.

If one mag works, that is all you need. You probably only have one nerve
causing the problem. Why would you need one at the top of the spine?
Think back to how nerves work....influx of + and - ions move thru the membrane. All the magnet does is prevent that + movement.

Placement is very individual...when you find a spot that works, use it.

To remove them, if they get stuck together..try sliding them..they will slide before they will pull apart.

They will affect credit cards, magnetic tape, and computers. They will set
off Airport security too.

You may find after some time, you won't need them as much. The nerve firing seems to stop (at least for me). So just wear them to bed, for starters.

MelodyL 01-09-2007 02:23 PM

I cannot wait until you tell us how you set off the bells and whisteles at the airports during your vacation.

Imagine, a magnetic LIZA JANE!!!!

How romantic is that???

mel

lol

P.S. Many moons ago, I was traveling to Florida when a man passed through one of the metal detectors and all the bells went off. Everybody came rushing over to see what the commotion was (as of course did I).
Well, they took all his stuff out of his pockets, keys, bottle openeners, etc, (whatever men carried on their person over 30 years ago). Well, he was clean, and they put him through again, and the same thing happened. Trouble was the man didn't speak a word of english and thought he was radioactive or something because he began to go crazy. They tried to calm him down and explain that they just wanted to find out why the bells were going off. All he knew that was happening was that he was being detained and they wouldn't let him on the plane.

So they take him to a private room and made him get undress (I can't imagine the look on his face as they explained THAT to him). Then they ran the metal thing up and down his body and the bells were still going off. They came out and were looking perplexed at each other because they had no idea why this man was settihg off metal detectors.

THEY FINALLY GOT A TRANSLATOR and when the guy heard what was happened he looked at everybody like they were stark raving mad and simply explained in his native language that during the war he had been injured and there was shrapnel still embedded in his leg.

Of course everybody backed off and allowed him his dignity. I will hever forget that as long as I live.

If the magnets work for you guys, I'm telling Alan. I just have to get my direct tv to get working again. Maybe I'll try putting magnets on it.!!!!

Brian 01-09-2007 03:25 PM

I have replied to your PM.
They should have come with plastic in between them so its easy to seperate them, they should not have sent them to you like that.:mad:

You must push and slide[ with your thumb/s, whilst holding the others with your fingers]at the same time to get them apart, you can't just pull them apart.

Some magnet manufacturers say place them south, others say north, i don't think it makes any differance at all, but if it works one way better than the other go for it, but i really don't think it matters at all.
It only matters when you place more than one, creating a strong magnetic field as i explained in my last PM.
Its only when those cards have direct contact with them it may do something to them ,[ say if you rubbed one of your cards with a magnet, well then yes it would] if the cards are in your handbag you shouldn't have any problems.
I have my spare magnets stuck on the side of my PC, the hard drive has a magnet in them anyway, you would have to have a magnet the size of a fist to do anything like your worried about, those ones are very user friendly.
I would not take them off untill about 3 days later, the longer you leave them on the better they work, i only take mine off to bath around the area and put some powder to stop any skin aggravation from the adhesive tape.
Sounds like the one you put one is working good, they have a high gauss reading so you have some good ones.

Brian 01-09-2007 07:45 PM

MAGNET WARNING
If anyone is reading this that has a pacemaker or any similar device DO NOT USE THEM, they do interfere with such devices.
Nor should anyone place a magnet on your throat or near your throat.

Hadleybay 01-09-2007 08:32 PM

Hi All,

Any brand magnets size, strength, you would recommend? Where do I purchase these?

Thanks,
Kitt00

Brian 01-09-2007 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitt00 (Post 57718)
Hi All,

Any brand magnets size, strength, you would recommend? Where do I purchase these?

Thanks,
Kitt00

What country do you live in, i am an Aussie, but i found one place on the net that are in the US down south ?? i haven't a clue about area's in the USA.

watsonsh 01-09-2007 09:44 PM

Hi Brian,

I bought some magnets that were designed to look like a pearl necklace. Why should you not put them near your throat?

Thanks
Shelley

Hadleybay 01-10-2007 09:59 AM

Hi Brian,
Thank you for responding quickly. I am in South East USA. Florida. My husband has neuropathy or PPS. Me, I have epilepsy. I would like to order magnets for him. Please let me know the web address.

Hey,,do you think I could run around with these things on my head with out short circuiting my brain? :rolleyes: hmmmm?

Thanks,
Kitt00

Jomar 01-10-2007 10:49 AM

I wore magnetic bracelets for my repetitive strain injury {RSI} and then a necklace for some neck/shoulder pain - they helped for awhile but my RSI became thoracic outlet syndrome after a couple years as I continued working at that time.

the ones I had were fairly weak though.

some of my co workers that had pain tried the bracelets and they also felt relief
they were quite surprised as they had never heard of anything like it.

I googled for images of "pain relief magnets"-
here's the results-
http://images.google.com/images?svnu...agnets&spell=1

Brian 01-10-2007 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelley (Post 57741)
Hi Brian,

I bought some magnets that were designed to look like a pearl necklace. Why should you not put them near your throat?

Thanks
Shelley

Hi Shelley, those type of necklaces should be fine, the magnetic necklaces that i have seen are very very weak in magnetic strength and nothing to worry about what so ever, because of their very low guass strength, and they are not placed directly on the skin, with the warning i posted, i am referring to placing very strong magnets directly on a persons throat, the magnets with a guass reading of anything from 1,000 to 15,000 gauss Neodyium magnets, which are the most strongest magnets out that i know of anyway.

I have been using magnets for approx 20 years, the first ones i got had a warning on the side of the packet about the pacemakers and not to place them anywere near your throat, this is why i pass on that information as especially now we we are talking about magnets that are very powerfull and a lot more powerfull than those origonal ones with that warning on the side of the packet.
I have heard of some even felling dizzy placing magnets on their neck, someone with medical knowledge may be able to explain the exact reason why, its something that i never wanted to find out , just always played on the safe side and never put them on anyones throat.
Brian :)

Brian 01-11-2007 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitt00 (Post 57896)
Hi Brian,
Thank you for responding quickly. I am in South East USA. Florida. My husband has neuropathy or PPS. Me, I have epilepsy. I would like to order magnets for him. Please let me know the web address.


Hey,,do you think I could run around with these things on my head with out short circuiting my brain? :rolleyes: hmmmm?

Thanks,
Kitt00

Hi Kitty, you never know it may :D :D
The place i found on the net in the US was at;
https://www.magnet4sale.com/xcart4/home.php

These ones look good value for money, the direct link is;
https://www.magnet4sale.com/xcart4/h...tion=0&page=12
at the very bottom of the page at $ 3.18 each/ min of 4 per purchase
SKU: ND0558-40NM

Material: Neodymium magnets, grade N40
Magnetization: through 0.25"
Rating: 12,900 gauss
Pulling Force: 32 lbs.
Plating: Ni+Cu+Ni 3 layer plated, the best coating available
Application: Physical massage.
Brian :)

Brian 01-11-2007 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jo55 (Post 57912)
I wore magnetic bracelets for my repetitive strain injury {RSI} and then a necklace for some neck/shoulder pain - they helped for awhile but my RSI became thoracic outlet syndrome after a couple years as I continued working at that time.

the ones I had were fairly weak though.

some of my co workers that had pain tried the bracelets and they also felt relief
they were quite surprised as they had never heard of anything like it.

I googled for images of "pain relief magnets"-
here's the results-
http://images.google.com/images?svnu...agnets&spell=1

Hi jo55, You know that magnets have been used for over 500 years for pain, you would think that many more people would know about the qualities of magnetic therapy, to get the best results out of magnets is to place them directly on your sore spot, using moleskin first, followed by the magnet and then the strong waterproof adhesive tape to keep them stuck on well, and left on for about 3 days take off, bath and powder the area, then within a couple hours put them back on, sometimes you may notice that the origonal sore spot has moved so general rule is were its sore is were you put them.
Brian :)

stagger 01-11-2007 08:22 PM

Brian
 
I took the magnets out of some old hard drives to be used at night. Do you know how strong these magnets are. They are almost impossible to seperate once they find each other. :icon_wink:

Jomar 01-11-2007 10:32 PM

here's some info on the hard drive magnets -
http://www.wondermagnet.com/item2demo.html

I don't know if I would try those on my body - they might be too strong.??
here's a results list on Biomagnetic therapy- you might find more info there
http://www.google.com/search?q=Bioma...ient=firefox-a

Brian 01-11-2007 10:49 PM

Hi Lanny, i have never used them so i haven't a clue how strong they are, i suppose it would depend on what size gigabyte hardrive were talking about too, if you go to the hardrive manufacturers support page and email that question to them, they MAY be able to tell you.

A very good tip that MrD told me was to put a piece of moleskin under the magnet to stop any magnetic burn, which has happened to me once, it leaves a very red unpleasant round mark on your skin which takes a few days to go.
If the magnets are only real small you don't need to do that , but if they are real powerfull it would be wise to put the moleskin underneath the magnet.

Just remember that opposite poles attract to each other, if you are placing anymore than one magnet in one area, place them down on a flat table whilst holding them firmly very slowly move them towards each other, if they start to attract STOP and flip one of the magnets over to the otherside, if you try the same again, you will notice now that the magnets will push away from each other, now thats how you should place them on yourself,[pushing away from each other] this creates the magnetic field you want.
good luck
Brian :)


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