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BlueMajo 11-24-2009 11:55 PM

Argh, having an "attack"
 
I dont know if it is a panic, a fear, a depression or a mix of all attack but this sucks...

I feel sad like hell, I cant stop crying... I literally feel my sould getting out of me... I want to believe God is listening me but I keep feeling nasty... And my fear about the future is here :(

I dont know what to do... I cant think properly... Cant pray properly...

I want to stay alone but at the same time need a mom hug...

Crap... I think is hormonal :mad:

bizi 11-25-2009 12:03 AM

Dear blue,
I am sorry that you are having an attack.
Has something happened to trigger this for you?
((((HUGS))))
bizi

bizi 11-25-2009 12:16 AM

I wish you would come to chat ....I would give you a hug in there.
((((HUGS))))
bizi

Mari 11-25-2009 03:28 AM

(((((((MAJO)))))))

The fear stuff about the future is not rational. It is part of anxiety.
I wish one of us here could find the cure to anxiety -- we've thought about it enough. OR with all the energy here, we would be able to wish it away so we could be left with anxiety free days.

'Hoping you feel better.

M.

Brokenfriend 11-25-2009 03:41 AM

Hi Blue
 
I've been going through alot of the same thing. Hang in there. Isaiah 41:10,and Isaiah 50:7. That last one helped me while I was in the hospital.
BF:hug::hug::hug:

waves 11-25-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 593530)
Hang in there. Isaiah 41:10,and Isaiah 50:7.

Yes those are good verses.

I hope you feel better soon Blue. :hug:

~ waves ~

BlueMajo 11-25-2009 08:06 PM

Thank you dear all for being here....

Thank you for reading...

Thank you for posting...

:hug:

Im still feeling like crap... like, you know, those times when you want to do something (I wanted to make cookies) and suddenly you question yourself "What for ?" :mad:

In a few words Im "Blah..."... :mad:

Ah ! and I dont have internet connection, so, I cant write as much as I would like too... :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

bizi 11-25-2009 09:16 PM

it is amazing what you can do with phones these days!

Brokenfriend 11-25-2009 09:28 PM

Those PHD's liked your work. Sometimes it's a little fear of success. It's sort of like 2 steps forward,and 3 steps backward. I've been through something like this.

When I was in college,I had a mental health emergency. I ended up in a mental hospital. When I got out it felt like I was a book,and the second half of the book was torn out,and lost. I could not see my future anymore. I've never heard anyone explain this problem in this way.

Yes I can relate to what you are saying,and I have sympathy for what you feel. It's a combination of fears.(Fear of failure,Fear of the future,Acute Dread,Fear of not making money,fear of rejection,and all kinds of these things)

That was a long time ago,and Doctors,and scientists know alot more then they use to,and they are accumulating more knowledge as the days go by.

Fear is a very uncomfortable fealing,and I believe it should be talked about more then it is. Some fear is learned,and a truth must cancel out the fear. The fear becomes smaller where it should be.

Hang in there Blue. I believe in you. You will make it through this. BF:hug::hug::hug:

thelonely1 11-25-2009 11:44 PM

Hello dear, sweet Blue. I'm sorry you are feeling bad. :hug:

You don't need to be afraid for the future sweetheart. You are smart and talented. The world is your oyster! Just try to believe in yourself okay?

I believe in you, and I am thinking of you.
:hug: X 5,000,001 (Ha! Now I have the most hugs record! :))

Take care Blue

~ Lonely1

Mari 11-26-2009 02:55 AM

yoga
 
Dear Majo,

How about yoga? It trains you in breathing and in relaxation techniques.
It is amazing. You can learn to lower your heart rate, calm yourself, and so on.


Have you ever thought about yoga?

M.

BlueMajo 11-26-2009 03:18 PM

(((((Steve)))))

I definetely agree... Fear needs more attention... it is something horrible... and really can make me sick !!! Im full of tics today :mad: You know, when your eye shakes... hate that !!! Im taking B complex so, hopefully it will work soon...

(((((thelonely)))))
Darn it... you broke my record of hugs... :mad: Will need to do something in that matter specially now that I see your tag says "Sad"....

(((((Mari)))))

Do you practice yoga ?? Does it really work ?? I keep reading and listening about it, but, Im just... esceptic (spelling ?) in that matter... :o
I definetely need to do something with this attacks though....

HUGS for everybody reading this thread :hug:

Silly eye tics... really bothering me now...

waves 11-26-2009 06:37 PM

Majo... Mg helpful for tics, nerves/anxiety, and insomnia
 
consider adding magnesium to your b supplement, for tics, anxiety, general nervousness and insomnia.

Mg deficiency/higher requirements are implicated in many nervous disorders including "startle syndrome" ... like if someone walks up behind you suddenly you jump out of your skin.. dunno if you get that... i have it at times. i also had problems with tics badly at one point... and they went away when i started drinking lots of milk (good Mg content!)... then later i read about it in a nutrition book.

now i take an Mg/B complex supplement that also has vits C D and E in it. (all are needed for correct utilization of the mineral.)

i haven't had tics in years.

~ waves ~

Hockey 11-26-2009 06:51 PM

Thanks for the info on Mg. I have startle syndrome and panic attacks because of my brain injury. It really is awful. I try to eat properly and take supplements, but I often wonder if the medications we take don't hinder absorption.

waves 11-26-2009 07:19 PM

Hockey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey (Post 594023)
Thanks for the info on Mg. I have startle syndrome and panic attacks because of my brain injury. It really is awful. I try to eat properly and take supplements, but I often wonder if the medications we take don't hinder absorption.

Some medications absolutely DO affect absorption or change our dietary requirements... for instance i take Depakote and with that Selenium and Zinc are both needed... i take those too. Carnitine is also recommended, but your body can make that, if you get enough of the others.

The other important thing is, many times, one particular element will be mentioned - for instance, magnesium, but as mentioned in my post (and it works the same for most things - the element or vitamin must be taken along with sufficient and correctly proportioned amounts of its "complementary" nutrients for the body to be able to utilize it properly.

The B vitamins for instance should always be taken as a complex - and not one of those B-100 or B-50 ... which give 100mg (mcg in some cases) of each - that is not proportional. it is hokey marketing it goes by grams and not % daily requirement.

Mrs D knows lots about what meds affect what nutrients... but i will be happy to look into things for you also, if you would like to tell me what meds you take... you can PM me if you wish for more privacy, or start a thread for this topic so others can chip in... as you prefer.

Good to see you Hockey, and I hope you had a good Thanksgiving! :)

~ waves ~

waves 11-26-2009 07:24 PM

MaJo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMajo (Post 593985)
HUGS for everybody reading this thread :hug:

hugs back to you! ;)

(((( Majo ))))

~ waves ~

BlueMajo 11-26-2009 11:57 PM

(((Waves)))

Thank you tons for the info !!!

Im going to buy magnesium tomorrow first thing in the morning ! this eye tics are really, driving me nuts... :mad: Im tired of them !!! argh :mad:

Mari 11-27-2009 04:27 AM

Dear Hockey and Major:

Here is MrsD's Magnesium thread.
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...ight=magnesium

Don't buy Magnesium from magnesium oxide. The body does not absorb it.
You can also get magnesium from foods like almonds.
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...nds#post221819

Also, you can soak your feet in Epsom Salts to get magnesium -- it will absorb through the skin.

Some people take it to help them sleep at night.
I take Magnesium with my night meds. I'm not sure it helps for sleep but I take it anyway.



M.

Mari 11-27-2009 05:07 AM

Biofeedback
 
Dear Majo,

We have good science on Biofeedback.
BIOFEEDBACK: A WORKING DEFINITION
http://www.coedu.usf.edu/zalaquett/H...iofeedback.htm

Quote:

Biofeedback is a therapeutic technique that helps clients develop the ability to control certain physiological processes. The means to do this include monitoring the physiological response in the client and displaying the signals generated by the monitoring technique to the therapist and client. The client uses this biological feedback to learn about and gain control of his/her responses. Biofeedback is, therefore, an educational process in which the client is helped to learn to control certain physiological processes, but it is the client who assumes the responsibility for and becomes an active participant in his/her own improvement.

The therapist utilizes different techniques to facilitate the acquisition of such control (none of the techniques used in the Counseling Center include surgical or pharmacological adjuncts). An additional benefit of this program is that the client increases his/her feelings of self-control and personal mastery because it is him/her who produces the desired changes by following the therapist's instructions and practicing regularly.

Also this page linked to the one above. It has good instructions.
http://www.coedu.usf.edu/zalaquett/H...ens/breath.htm
Quote:

During stressful situations we rarely stop to think about what is happening within our bodies. Indeed, the pressures of the moment keep our minds occupied on almost everything but our physiological functions. Consequently those functions often become irregular, leaving us in an unhealthy state of being. When we are in this state we have fewer chances to succeed in whatever we try to accomplish.

Among the many physiological functions adversely affected by stress is our breathing. Even when stress is minimal few people retain a habit of natural, full breathing which is required for maintaining a good mental and physical state. Proper breathing is essential for sustaining life and cleansing inner body systems. By learning proper breathing techniques stressful situations may be handled better and overall mental and physical health will be improved.


M.

Hockey 11-27-2009 07:13 AM

Hi Mayo,

Eye ticks can be so embarassing. For a long time I had them in both eyes. When my one went, my husband would get annoyed because he thought I was rolling my eyes at him. (Like I would ever do that. lol) When the left eye ticked, old guys would wink back at me in the grocery store. ;)

I don't have much trouble at the moment. However, that's only because I'm on such a massive dose of anti-spasm meds that I can barely hold my eyes open.:Zzzz:

Cheers

BlueMajo 11-27-2009 07:36 PM

Im desperated !!! :mad: My internet connection is broken... I only have my phone... :mad:
This is causing me anxiety !!!!

Thank you for your responses... Wish I could write more but as you can imagine, the little keyboard in my phone sucks !!!! :mad:

And the eye ticks still sucks like hell !!! :mad:

waves 11-27-2009 08:35 PM

patience...
 
it will take some time...for the magnesium to have an effect on the tics. give it a week after starting supps and ensure it is a good source (see Mrs D's thread linked earlier). Alternatively, without supplements, drinking 1-2 glasses milk daily is good as it is well absorbed from that AND eat lots of green veggies! The greener the better - Mg found in chlorophyll.

Mari 11-27-2009 09:25 PM

Dear Majo,
I hope your internet connection gets fixed.

Yes, the magnesium will help you given some time.

My acupuncturist says that, according to Chinese medicine, eye twitching is usually caused by the liver:
http://chinesemedicinecure.com/node/774 :)


M.

thelonely1 11-28-2009 12:31 AM

Hiya Blue!

Remember to get lots of rest, it will help the magnesium take effect faster. Try to relax, watch a movie, take a bath. Find ways to keep your mind off the tic and it won't bother you so much.

I get eye twitchs sometimes, they're usually caused by too much stress and not enough sleep, but whatever the cause rest and relaxation are always a good thing. :)

Take care :hug:
I'm thinking of you

~ Lonely1

Hockey 11-28-2009 08:21 AM

Hi Blue,

My computer is on death's door, too. It's a minor miracle everytime the thing boots up. It's older than dirt, but there's no way I can afford a new one. So if I disappear suddenly, don't worry that I'm having a crisis or a hissy fit.

Technology is great - until it stops working.

Good luck

Isis 11-28-2009 08:30 AM

I am so sorry I haven't been around to support you
 
Dear Blue, I have been going through a bit of a rough patch myself.
My ability to communicate freezes when I am low.
I hope you are better soon.
((((Blue))))

mrsD 11-28-2009 09:30 AM

eye tics also respond to Omega-3s. There is even a study on
PubMed med recommending them.

Quote:

Neuropsychobiology. 2000;41(3):154-7.
The control of blepharospasm by essential fatty acids.

Mostofsky DI, Yehuda S, Rabinovitz S, Carasso R.

Psychopharmacology Laboratory, Department of Psychology, Bar Ilan University, Ramat Gan, Israel. dmostof@bu.edu

Dopamine depletion induced by administration of Ro4-1284 produces a condition of rapid and repeated eye blinking in rats. This condition mimics the human disorder, blepharospasm, which often accompanies parkinsonism and other dopamine deficiency disorders. When given a 3-week course of a compound (SR-3) developed from a specific ratio of two free polyunsaturated fatty acids - linoleic acid and alpha-linolenic acid - the eye blinking rate following administration of Ro4-1284 is reduced to saline and no drug control levels. These results suggest a favorable prospect for essential fatty acids in general, and SR-3 in particular, to provide an improved therapeutic option for the clinical management of benign essential blepharospasm. Copyright 2000 S. Karger AG, Basel

PMID: 10754430 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
from http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

Since people eat enough linoleic acid (omega-6) taking flax oil for the linolenic acid might be helpful.

Magnesium helps too. When low typically larger muscles first give symptoms like leg cramps etc. But eye tics can also be a sign of low magnesium as well.

BlueMajo 11-30-2009 07:45 AM

Im definetely not feeling good :mad:

Reading your post helped me to feel less dark this morning :hug: I cant say Im blue, Im dark and frozen... I feel like I could go out running and screaming how much I hate myself, my life and the things Ive done...

I hate this crisis I suffer... Like I containMyself 6 days of the week and the 7th, I explode...

Still no internet :mad:

The tics are progressing... But still... :(

I feel so unestable in everyway... Like I dont want to see os listen anybody and guess what, I need to go to school precisly today...

Ive taking omega 3 for 2 years now... I cant imagine how my tics would be if I hadnt... :rolleyes:

Thanks for listening :hug: I really appreciate it.

bizi 11-30-2009 11:15 AM

I am glad that you have access thru your phone! great that you can still post.
The form of magnesium that is best, from what I have heard is "slow mag"
it costs more but is better absorbed, don't know if someone has already suggested this to you or not.
I am sorry that you are feeling this way....
you are being hard on yourself again...this is not good.
be nice to yourself.
we think you are wonderful!
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

thelonely1 12-01-2009 12:31 AM

I'm sorry you're feeling bad, Blue. :hug: :hug: :hug:

That unstable feeling is the worst. :(

I have no medicinal advice for you, but at the very least I can let you know you're not alone. We seem to have some very similar problems. I spend a lot of time wanting to be alone and away from people, and yet I'm lonely all the time too...... hmmmmm. Can't there be some happy medium?

I hope your internet returns soon, if only to make things more conviniant for you.

I hope you feel better soon, here are some :hug:'s to tide you over 'til then. :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

Take care

~ Lonely1

Yellowfever 12-01-2009 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMajo (Post 593489)
I dont know if it is a panic, a fear, a depression or a mix of all attack but this sucks...

I feel sad like hell, I cant stop crying... I literally feel my sould getting out of me... I want to believe God is listening me but I keep feeling nasty... And my fear about the future is here :(

I dont know what to do... I cant think properly... Cant pray properly...

I want to stay alone but at the same time need a mom hug...

Crap... I think is hormonal :mad:

Dear Blue,

That is some scary stuff. It will pass. I will put you in my pray locket. God does hear you. He always know what you are going through. I see this as a possible way making you stronger.

I know what you mean by a mom hug. To have that comfort. Those are always the best hugs. I am weird. I sometimes want my daddy to hold me like I am his little girl again. I want that security. And I am a full grown woman. I miss that nurture.

I think there is no wrong way to pray Blue. I think God hears your prayers loud and clear.

Sharla

MandaC 12-01-2009 08:08 PM

always here for you...

BlueMajo 12-01-2009 08:30 PM

Thank you sweeties ((((((((HUGS))))))))

Im in a cyber-café now...

(((Bizi))) I simply dont know how to stop being strong with me... :( I have always hated me... I feel everything that has happened to me is because of my own faults... I hate me ! :mad: :(

(((thelonely))) Those hugs feel so good... I dont know if you will find this weird, but you make me smile everytime I read you... :hug: You look like a very funny person to me :) Love ya ! :hug:

(((Sharla))) & (((Manda))) You are too kind and sweet. Thanks.

Im feeling... better today... I little grumpy... like... blah you know... I couldnt find my phone and I was upset like hell... :rolleyes: Oh well... silly mood I hate...

Tomorrow I have to go to school again... :mad: I... I... Im very mad... yesterday was the graduation exam of a lab-mate... she is... pretty lazy... she never paid attention to her project.... she didnt reply to the questions the phDs did to her !! and guess what... she received honors !!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad: I mean.... even our boss was quiet... When I graduated in march, she gave a speech to me and my parents which she didnt give yersterday... but the university simply gave the honors like for... hum... protocol maybe, dont know... But Im mad... I dont know how important in a curriculum honors are but... darn them...

Alright, will stop the venting here....

Thanks for listening !!

Love you all ! :hug:

bizi 12-01-2009 08:55 PM

glad that you have internet access!
yippee!
bizi:)

thelonely1 12-01-2009 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMajo (Post 595495)
Those hugs feel so good... I dont know if you will find this weird, but you make me smile everytime I read you... :hug: You look like a very funny person to me :) Love ya ! :hug:

Love you too Blue! :hug: (By the way, your replies to my posts always make me smile too. :))

And you don't have to stop venting; vent as much as you want to! It feels good dosen't it?
:hissyfit: :Soapbox: :mf_swordfight: :mf_argue:
(Some of those smilies don't fit, but it's all I could find :Dunno:)

You and I both have to stop being so hard on ourselves, okay? Startiiiinnng..... NOW! Not everything in the world is our fault. Okay?

:hug: :hug: :hug:
Thank you for sharing:Heart:
Take care

BlueMajo 12-02-2009 09:48 PM

(((((((Bizi))))))))

(((((((thelonely))))) HAhaha ! loved the smilies !!! I love ALL of them... those things can really make me laugh ! :)

Wait, so, now you are innocent huh ??? LOL, I found that really awesome ! :hug:

thelonely1 12-03-2009 12:18 AM

Yep, I'm innocent because, as I said last night....
Quote:

Originally Posted by thelonely1 (Post 595544)
Not everything in the world is our fault.

..... and you are innocent to!

I'm glad I could make you laugh!

Have a good night's sleep Blue

Dmom3005 12-03-2009 06:48 PM

Blue
Thinking of you. Just as the new member thread said.

I'm here for you.

Donna:grouphug:


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