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Mari 01-26-2010 02:35 AM

Exhausted, angry, and afraid to sleep
 
Hi,

I left work early today (Monday) because I only had 3 hours of sleep the night before and was too sleepy to function. I'm not going into work on Tuesday either because I am sooooo worn out from lack of sleep.

I've been in treatment for sleep and bipolar since 1988. I wish I could get some help sometime soon about sleep.

Maybe this decade would be nice!!!

M.

bizi 01-26-2010 10:07 AM

I hope you get caught up in your sleep today.
I wish sleep were easier for you...it must be so frustrating.
((((HUGS))))
bizi

Isis 01-26-2010 01:37 PM

Mari, I had that problem for years. Medications sometimes helped, but mostly didn't. My pdoc is the no benzo, no sleep-aid kind of a man, so there was no encouragement from him to try anything specific.
Fortunately for me a muscle relaxant that I have been prescribed for lupus has helped. For the last couple of months that I've been on it, I've slept well.
Let me see - I know you must have tried a whole lot of stuff - maybe I could dig something up?
What kind of sleep-aids have you tried?
:hug:

Mari 01-26-2010 03:11 PM

I slept from 6:00 am to 3:00 pm
 
Hi,

I slept today.
I just woke up and feel ok now.
M.

Isis 01-27-2010 12:25 AM

Oh Good!
 
That is terrific Mari!

I, on the other hand, slept badly. :D

But that's OK. I can catch a nap whenever. I am lucky that I mostly don't have the pressure of having to watch the clock.

Hope your sleep better from now Mari and I hope that is not wishful thinking!
:hug:

Mari 01-27-2010 02:01 AM

Dear Isis,

I'm avoiding bed again right now even though I have been sleepy for several hours.

I don't know how to fix this.



M.

Brokenfriend 01-27-2010 05:26 AM

I'm sorry Mari that you've had these problems for so long. I hope that you have a better decade. BF:hug::hug::hug:

Isis 01-27-2010 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 614836)
[B]

I'm avoiding bed again right now even though I have been sleepy for several hours.

I don't know how to fix this.

M.

I totally identify with your fear of going to bed. I have spent many nights feeling exactly that. Very difficult to suggest anything 'though. Particularly since you have to go to work in the morning.
Does reading help? I find most TV programes keep me up - light, noise - too stimulating. Deep breathing? Have you tried a sleep clinic?
:hug:

Dmom3005 01-27-2010 08:55 AM

Mari
I think you are doing everything you can to overcome this.
Just keep working on it.

Donna

BlueMajo 01-27-2010 10:33 PM

Oh ! sleep problems are terrible !!!

I really hate myself when I cant sleep !!

Mari, have you tried B-complex ?? Those pills make me sleep like baby !!! :o

befuddled2 01-28-2010 12:44 AM

Mari,

I too fight sleep a lot but for the past couple of months I have been sleeping rather well. I worry about how I will work with my sleep problem and I admire you for holding a job with yours.

Muscle relaxers will knock me out too.

barbara

Mari 01-28-2010 03:29 AM

hypnotist and anger
 
Hi,
It's very frustrating.
I was barely functioning at work Wed and it was quite obvious.

I might try some small meditation exercises at home that tdoc gave me a long time ago. This will get me into the practice.
Then when I will see her, we can do some useful hypnosis.

Seeing her lately has not been useful enough for sleep -- part of my anger.
We made useful progress in summer 2008 and then reached a another huge block. . . . no sleep progress since then.

I have been considering dropping her, but I might try the exercises again.


M.

bizi 01-28-2010 04:02 PM

You guys have a good mattress?
Is that room put together, finished un packing, calm, colors cool and cozy? is it cool enough to snuggle under the covers.
Do you like your bed room? is this where you were trying to create some sacred space?
Have you done this?
Sleeping is something that we do where we let go of control...maybe this is a control thing....maybe you are trying to control it>
I dont know.....
I sure wish that you had some epiphany and were able figure it out.
I am sorry....
((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Isis 01-29-2010 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 615418)
You guys have a good mattress?
Is that room put together, finished un packing, calm, colors cool and cozy? is it cool enough to snuggle under the covers.
Do you like your bed room? is this where you were trying to create some sacred space?
Have you done this?
Sleeping is something that we do where we let go of control...maybe this is a control thing....maybe you are trying to control it>
I dont know.....
I sure wish that you had some epiphany and were able figure it out.
I am sorry....
((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Beth's post above - totally relevent! ( I like my room to be about 20 C so I can snuggle under a soft, soft quilt with cotton voille cover and pure cotton filling.)
I LUUUUVE my quilt! :)

Mari 01-29-2010 01:59 AM

Thank you. I don't know what to do. I don't want to go to bed.
 
Hi,

It does not matter what meds the pdoc could give me.
I would refuse them --- I have a huge huge amount of anxiety related to sleep.

The bed, the temp, the room, the covers are very nice. I learned about that years ago in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. My bedroom is a very nice room.

I do not have a bed time routine -- that goes to heck -- can't explain --

It is a life long problem that I remember at least from teenage years . . . .perhaps earlier.

I'm falling apart.


M.

Isis 01-29-2010 08:59 AM

Hi Mari,
Just wondering - how much slleep do you need to feel fresh?

bizi 01-29-2010 12:46 PM

I am sorry that you are falling apart.
what about your chinese health care worker you used to see was it for accupunture or pressure ...have you ever done reflexology? helps to open up blocked areas. Maybe you could try a reike healer...they lay hands on you to help open up chakras...I think.
this is alternative stuff but I think you are open to that.
Have you been to your yoga lately?
can you do yoga at home comfortably?
do you dream when you get to sleep?
bizi

Dmom3005 01-29-2010 09:39 PM

Mari

:grouphug: from all of us. I wish we could figure this out.

Donna

dogodlvr 01-30-2010 03:38 PM

I am so sorry. I only have trouble sleeping a few times a month.
hugs and prayers for help for you
:circlelove:

Mari 02-04-2010 05:39 PM

pdoc today said it is psychological
 
Hi,

I saw pdoc today.
We briefly talked about sleep.
He said the problem was psychological and to check with my sleep neuro.
I see sleep neuro in a week or so. I'm not interested in dealing with sleep neuro or his PA.

I did call the acupuncturist for an appt. I last saw her Oct 2009.


M.

Dmom3005 02-04-2010 09:07 PM

:hug:Mari

I hope your acupunturist can help. I think you need to make
it work out how ever you can. Good luck.

Donna

bizi 02-04-2010 11:53 PM

good for you for calling!
bizi

BlueMajo 02-08-2010 04:03 PM

Checking:

How's everything Mari ?? Sleeping well these days ??

:hug:

Mari 02-09-2010 03:47 AM

Thank you.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMajo (Post 619405)
Checking:

How's everything Mari ?? Sleeping well these days ??

:hug:


Pretty much the sleep thing stinks. I worry that I am getting worse. I want to be well.

I slept 3 hours Sunday night. Then I fell asleep in front of the tv for 1 hour Monday evening. I'm still up. I don't want to go to bed but I am drop down sleepy.


Tdoc called to check on me. We arranged an appt in 2 weeks.
My acupuncturist returned my call. I might see her this weekend.


M.

bizi 02-09-2010 10:48 AM

I am hoping that your accupuncturist can see you this weekend....
I continue to feel sorry for your lack of good sleep.:(
((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Dmom3005 02-12-2010 03:39 PM

Mari

I am thinking of you. I really wish I had a clue how to help you figure
out how to sleep better at night.

I can totally understand being tired during the day. I've been having
trouble sleeping at night too at times.

But I decided that if I really feel like I need to sleep during the day.
Like today that I would do so. I honestly cancelled a PT appointment
because I felt that sleeping this morning was much more important.

So I ended up sleeping from about 12 last night, till getting up and
getting Derrick off on his bus at 6:30. I then slept on the couch
till 9am. And then my husband got up, and with all 4 dogs on
the couch with me. I told my husband I was going to lay down
till 10am, because I was to leave at that point to go to PT at
11am.

But I couldn't sleep because of being worried, I shouldn't have
worried my husband had planned to make sure I knew it was 10am.
But I came out at 9:45 and told him I was cancelling my PT because
I just didn't feel good, and needed to sleep.

After cancelling I went back to bed till 1pm. WOW, it was really goo.


Donna

waves 02-14-2010 06:46 PM

sleep
 
Dear Mari,

i am hoping you got to see your accupuncturist. i will check back in at some point to see if you have an update. meanwhile, i am just hoping you get your sleep in, whenever you can.

Dear Donna,

good for you! (and i so enjoyed the bit about the couch with all four dogs up on there... i bet it was nice and warm, for sure!)

---------------------

recently i had a period of extreme fatigue and insomnia with broken sleep - plus a plethora of other issues (due to my performing idiocies with my benzo taper).

anyway, i decided sleep is a huge huge management factor with this, and that i can't afford to let the attempt at a "civilized" schedule stop me from getting enough sleep. so, i have given myself permission to sleep however much and whenever i need OR want, at least until i finish the taper. if i manage to get a job of course i will have to remove the "whenever" clause but the weekends will be free rein still.

i am off caffeine completely too (unbelievable for me! i have not even had a "vacation" from caffeine since i was 16!) and i actually think that is helping my nerves and my sleep quality overall.

i find that not fighting tiredness constantly has made an amazing difference, even in my mood.

~ waves ~

bizi 02-14-2010 09:52 PM

thank you for posting waves, so good to hear from you.
(((((HUGS)))))
I know how important sleep is...
((((HUGS))))
bizi

Mari 02-14-2010 11:11 PM

Dear Waves,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 621757)

---------------------

recently i had a period of extreme fatigue and insomnia with broken sleep - plus a plethora of other issues (due to my performing idiocies with my benzo taper).

anyway, i decided sleep is a huge huge management factor with this, and that i can't afford to let the attempt at a "civilized" schedule stop me from getting enough sleep. so, i have given myself permission to sleep however much and whenever i need OR want, at least until i finish the taper. if i manage to get a job of course i will have to remove the "whenever" clause but the weekends will be free rein still.

i am off caffeine completely too (unbelievable for me! i have not even had a "vacation" from caffeine since i was 16!) and i actually think that is helping my nerves and my sleep quality overall.

i find that not fighting tiredness constantly has made an amazing difference, even in my mood.

~ waves ~

It is good to see you post. :Heart:
I have been wondering how you are doing and hoping that your absence was not related to difficulties.

I hope sleep is good for you. :Zzzz:
Benzo tapers are hard.

M.


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