I tried to clear out a box of stuff from 15+ yrs ago and gave up
 

Hi,
I have one box with stuff related to grad school that I saved from 12 -18 years ago. Over the years I have run into this box occasionally. Each time I go through it, I find a little more to throw out.

Even though I was dx'd and fully medicated I see that I was able to write --- my cognition had not fallen to the dullness that it is now. That's a bit depressing.

On the other hand, maybe not so depressing -- apparently I was functioning & managing at that time.

If I met myself and had a conversation with my two selves (one from now and one from then), I wonder how it would go. I think that I was at the beginning of bipolar and had not succumbed to its ravishes yet.
I was still hopeful about life. I think that I am more of a mess now than I was then.

I threw a lot of things out and put everything else back in the box for next time.

M.

It's hard to deal with items from our pasts, they hold memories for us and remind us of how we were once upon a time. I hope that it wasn't too painful for you to throw some things out. I don't know about the idea of talking to an earlier version of myself. I think that would be real weird because I have not been dx'd for that long, ten years is how long I've had the Bipolar II dx.

I can remember how I was back before the dx, but I really had a rough time managing things in my life. Made some bad decisions. Did some stupid things. But lived to tell the tale you know? I just wanted you to know I understand about dealing with boxes from the past. I don't do it often but when I do it rips a bit at my heart.

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Dear Pam,

This box was not too painful because I had the sleep meds in and was going to check inside the box and then go to bed.

It's just papers. I could winnow the papers down some more and put what is left in a file in the file cabinet instead of a box. I'll get around to that someday -- I'll have to decide what to keep and what to let go.

I was lucky to get dx'd pretty quickly after onset of symptoms. I can be grateful for that.

I'm glad I'm hearing from you. You know, most of us share the same difficulties and yet we are here, as you say.
We lived to tell the tale. I like that.
We need to remind ourselves that everyday we are here is a successful day.


M.

Aw,

Every single word in this post has been very sweet, touching and wise :hug: :hug: :hug:

Thanks Mari and Pam ! :hug:

Im one of those girls that cant throw anything... My room is a mess because it is so tiny and I keep everything... every single thing, brings me memories... :rolleyes: Sometimes I really like to have my things, but some others I really wish I could throw all this stuff away... It can be very hard for me to remember my past... I guess all of us have a "before" and an "after" and this can be veeeeerrrrrrrrry touching... :( :hug:

Mari, I too think Im a worse mess now... and angry all the time, and worried all the time, etc... I miss my past so much and with all the stuff I have to remind me.. :rolleyes: But at the same time, I do think it is nice to have all that...

:hug:

Mari... you are amazing at clearing out stuff. you lightened the box... that's good. :D

Majo... you and i seem to be twin children-of-nostalgia. ;) :hug:

~ waves ~

I've run out of space a long time ago in my living quarters and in my head.

I'm prepared to ask the cleaning lady to hold the garbage bag while I dump stuff in -- I need her help for this -- can't do it on my own -- will need to call her Sat to ask her if she can do this kind of work.


Tdoc wanted me to watch Hoarders and observe the decisions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAnah0l0rqk

Clean House is way less depressing to watch with some comedy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPjqZ22rsaM&NR=1


M.

hoarders clip
 

OMG i could not live like that!!!!!! :(:(:(

"twin children-of-nostalgia" haha totally !!! I loved that waves !!! :) :hug:

I have seen hoarders before....those on the show get help and manage in time to deal with their stuff...but it takes a long time.
bizi

I have to admit.

Hoarders, is part of the reason we at my house have been inspired
to clean and then sell lots of the junk in our house.

We could easily be called hoarders.


My husbands family were differently hoarders, so much so that my
mother-in-law still has the family home full of stuff.

But a lot of that is because she wants the boys to take what they
want and then figure out what to do to clean the house.

So it should be getting done, but no its not.


(I'll let you know how our story of hoarding goes) But its going to be a while.
Donna:grouphug:

My Favorite system is the one I've seen one of Orpah's team do several times.

She has professionals including therapists and such.
Her group gets the whole family involved in taking everything out of the house on a large tarp.
Bins are set up for 1 keeping, 2 garbage, 3 giving a way, . . .

Each member of the group is given a container for their keeping pile and about 30 seconds to take out what they want. (They don't get to keep everything -- only what they really really want. They only get a few seconds to decide.)

I'm probably missing something key but that is what I remember.

Then the family is sent away while the designers redo the whole home.

People seem pleased at the end.
I would like to see some follow up shows.

Also, all of these shows make a big deal at the end of the shows with the family (included folks estranged because of the junk) eating or at least planning a meal at the dining room / kitchen table.
It is nice that cleaning fosters good energy.

M.

My room is a completely mess because it is so tiny and I cant put anything away... I keep everything... gosh... I tried to clean it these days... didnt succed... :rolleyes:
I found a heart a friend of mine gave me when I graduted... I hadnt talked to her in ages and rang her as I found the heart... we wil meet next month...

I hate now to find photos... just remind me my past... that that I now idealize... :(

visual
 

Dear Majo,
Put the photos away. You will be better to able to enjoy them when you are in the right place.

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I don't put anything away either.
I need to see my stuff. When I put it a way in my head it is gone, disapeared.
For example I like open shelves instead of draws. I file my stuff in clear plastic folders. I would like to nail stuff to the walls in stead of putting it away.

M.

what ever works for you guys...I like my stuff organized but my office desk is a very cluttered organized mess.
bizi