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unknown,

Here is the link to view who the forum leaders (moderators and administrators) are.

http://forums.braintalk2.org/showgroups.php

Unknown,

A lot of readers may not have interest in that particular thread in question. I believe regarding triggers; that should have a forum of it's own for people to view - or perhaps another to discuss conditions to help people who do not have them better understand.

A topic regarding moderators should discuss just that, and then one regarding triggers, health conditions, etc. should be of their own topic - so those viewing the forums will see the thread and then read it being aware of the actual topic.

The topic I believe you are questioning was getting close to the point of becoming 'heated' and upon reviewing the feedback, KD then locked it. It is much easier to lock a topic than allow it to be derailed (for the topic to change). If you would like to discuss triggers, or other health conditions - please feel free to start a new topic.

I would personally love to know more about conditions I do not have, and to be aware of triggers. I am sure I am not alone in having a curious little mind.

Thank you for your post and for asking, you do deserve an answer and I hope you understand.

I explained in my post there that I was "closing" the thread (to discussion for now) until Doc John can come and read and respond. At that point, he may very well reopen the discussion to members.

I didn't "lock" the thread as a disciplinary action, but that Doc John can have a chance to read what's there, respond and take it from there. :)

KD

I forgot to add, regarding this:

The moderation will be very open and honest, however, as posted by Doc John - he is sick this week. I am sure once he gets to feeling better he will be posting some rules and more information.

Again, it wasn't a lock out of anything negative - Kimmy was just 'saving' it for Doc John. Kind of like keeping his plate in the microwave so his dinner stays warm until he gets home! :D

Yes - I couldn't see anything openly hostile in that thread (mostly differences of opinion) - but it's moved through a number of topics (and I was going philosophical, which is not a good thing - need to go back to uni so I can do that where it belongs ;) ). If I was in charge of this board, I'd want to do some reflective work around some of the thread topics - which is what it sounds like may happen.

Swift
PS this was posted in reply to Ellie's post - posted at the same time as unknown.

It was not locked for that reason. As stated in my original post, it was locked because Kimmy obtained the feedback and as she stated, she was waiting for Dr. John to respond after he gets a peek at it.

I gave my opinion that it had potential for being heated, which was just from reviewing certain posts and also from my point of view.

There was certainly nothing there hostile or attacking anyone in particular, but it was going off-topic a bit. This was not done in any negative manner at all. We are all trying to limit things until Dr. John is here to provide everyone with a good set of rules - it isn't that we are trying to censor anything or to not respond to certain things, this is the right thing to do. We can't just make up rules or act in certain ways without his 'approval' per se.

As stated, the thread was not locked for going off-topic - but I did say that it was headed that way. You had said you had concern that the triggers should be discussed which is why I said that it would be good to start a new post regarding this. If discussing triggers was not allowed, I would not have said to make a post regarding it.

You may have taken what I said out of context a bit, so I will try to rephrase.

Your opinions are not being moderated, the thread in question was locked only until Dr. John is able to review it. There are no other reasons behind it.

I stated that it was going off-topc, however, and encouraged you (or anyone) to make a new post regarding the topics within that topic that you would like to discuss.

Many users want moderation, many do not want moderation - we over moderate, under moderate - it's all over the place! :)

The main goal was to get feedback and all feedback is taken into consideration, however, it is easier to await the rules to go into place before taking any permanent actions or responding to any serious questions regarding moderation rules, member rules, etc.

Please try not to judge or to think there are any 'shady' moderation tactics going on, I can assure you it isn't going that way. I did not lock the thread, I just gave my feedback on what I was reviewing. Kimmy locked it and posted the reason why - please try to understand that everyone is working to do their best and this is still the learning phase for a lot of people.

PS: To clarify, I pointed out it was going off-topic because the topics that were being covered DO need to be discussed, and I believe they should have their 'own' topic. It wasn't meant to be negative in any way.

Wish I could think of a logical reply but I can't.

Basically, to see what members thought of moderators and to gather up information they posted about how they would like to see things go and be ran on the forums.

Hopefully, we can have something a bit more formal laid out soon.

Forgive me for babbling, my brain and I just aren't on the same level today so I am all over the place. :)

I also sent you a Private Message.

I was just curious as to how, from the list of volunteers...some of them were picked. I recognize a couple of names that may cause potential , well...upheavel from various other forums round the net~:(

Ellie

I hear you and thanks for taking the time to reply so carefully and, to me anyway, so clearly :)

I tried my best, but I think I started to babble and put people under the impression KD locked for another reason. For that, I am sorry.

I will be 100% honest. Today, I woke up and made coffee twice because I forgot I made the first post and over-flowed everything. Then I overflowed the washer because I added soap several times.

I have days like these, and I can't say anything except I am human and I simply cannot help it. I hope everyone can understand this. I just wanted to make it clear that I believe things should be discussed, I didn't want anyone under the impression that I thought anything other than that.

I am always honest, sometimes too honest - but I try my best, and I hope that you can appreciate my honesty.

Hope you're all having a great day!

Chemar, thanks - you made me smile.

I believe Kimmy is working on adding titles to usernames, Unknown. Don't quote me, but I am pretty sure that was being done. The area to find the forum leaders is rather hard to find, it was for me at least. Maybe we can add a sticky to link it.

I'm trying not to think about that one.

Now...this would be the very first forum where threads grow legs and run away all on their own... :eek:

The decision to lock a civil thread because it might get heated and you want to save it in its current state smells very bad to me...in fact, despite it having been done with a friendly and polite explanation, it is just plain censorship. There is a good book about exactly that type of thing... ;) Another way of doing it might have been to say that you are thinking of closing this thread because of <name your favorite reason> which would have given people a chance to respond. You didn't and so they couldn't...

Forums live by discussions, talks, change...you do know that "food" kept for somebody goes stale quickly...and Yesterdays threads, especially the ones not allowed to evolve, go stale extremely quickly and, like old food, they leave a bad taste.

cheers
eve

Better temporarily locked than permanently deleted.

JMHO
Swift

I am going to add my 2 cents again for what ever value 2 cents has.......my opinion of why the thread was locked was because we were all talking and spouting opinions and thoughts about the role of moderators...that was going to go on and on.....

when.....the big when........

Doc John hasn't even posted the rules or expectations for what the moderators role is, or really what is allowed and isn't allowed......so we were all going on about something when we don't even know what Doc John's intentions are geared for.....that is just my thinking.......

The biggest thing I have learned in retraining my brain......no matter what you do.....you aren't going to make everyone happy........

Our brains are wired to create.......always something better......and better doesn't always mean the same thing to everyone.......

Blessings on us all.........
Hummer

Exactly Hummer!

i agree swift. it is still there for all to read. the main topic points can be picked up and put in their own threads.

;) and i'll do my darndest to keep it ON o close to target.

Lord love a duck. I'm glad I'm not Doc John. I'd come back here and just say, forgit about it.

I see complaints about a thread of complaints based on other complaints in other threads that had complaints about a comlplaint that so and so made in another........ :rolleyes:

What I saw was people verging on taking away a fundamental right to express ourselves.

So and so doesn't like chocolate, someone doesn't like angels, I personally don't like religion shoved down my throat, but what are we gonna do? I wouldn't believe it if someone here told me that nothing would offend them.

Where do we draw the line? No talk about chocolates?

Do I not get to put a link to Race for the Cure in my signature line because someone in the Breast Cancer forum may become upset?

Can I not go into a colon cancer forum and speak of my issues because someone might become offended when I start describing problems related to a colonoscopy? Or want to put a link in my signature to some site for a Cure for Colon Cancer?

If I'm sick of watching someone consistently using bad grammar because it so offends me, that person can be asked to have their posts checked first because I become so upset at reading them?

Where do we draw the line? How about we let the chocolate and the angels and bad grammar stay, and start freaking out when we have to question the use of someone's pornographic avatar?

And, I did see bashing in that thread (indirectly). I'm not agreeing with it being locked but...when people were complaining about other people posting about 'chocolate', who do you think of?????????? Or 'hugs' and 'kisses' or whatever the other complaint was

If we had a Moderator Number Four here, we wouldn't be dealing with all of this.

Now there's a scary thought. :eek: