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anon21816 09-10-2010 08:06 AM

Insuring your Programmer and Paddle
 
I just thought I would share this with you about insuring your remote and paddle lead.

I rang my House Insurance people and explained to them that I have a medical implant which uses a remote control to activate it. The guy was ever so confused:D and had to go off and speak to a supervisor.

On his return he said NO cant do that you will have to have that insured on your HEALTH INSURANCE (btw its the SAME company:confused:). Again I tried to explain that what Im actually insuring is NOT inside me but outside me. I gave a description and eventually had to go and get my literature about the system and read it all out to him. Again he had to go off and check with his supervisor. Finally he came back and said that he would have to send it off to their Underwriters and they will decide if they can insure it for me or not:eek:
He said he would call me by close of business today. I will update you if and when he calls:rolleyes:

Im just writing this to let you know that you MAY come up against some resistance.......then again you might not as its a lot more common in the States than in Ireland:)

fionab 09-10-2010 10:33 AM

I talked to my ins. gal today, here in Ohio, and she said there's several ways she's thinking I could insure the remotes and the charger (my rep. suggested both be insured, and for me that means 2 remotes and 2 chargers). She said it might be able to go under my usual house insurance under "contents" or that I may be able to do it as one does expensive jewelery ( a rider), or I may be able to take out a totally separate policy on them. She's going to get back to me once she looks into it more.

By the way, she said they get a lot of claims of people's cellphones going in the "loo". Is there a theme here??:D:D

anon21816 09-10-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fionab (Post 693923)
I talked to my ins. gal today, here in Ohio, and she said there's several ways she's thinking I could insure the remotes and the charger (my rep. suggested both be insured, and for me that means 2 remotes and 2 chargers). She said it might be able to go under my usual house insurance under "contents" or that I may be able to do it as one does expensive jewelery ( a rider), or I may be able to take out a totally separate policy on them. She's going to get back to me once she looks into it more.

By the way, she said they get a lot of claims of people's cellphones going in the "loo". Is there a theme here??:D:D


Seems to be:D Im wondering WHY you would need it in the loo:confused:

I think your 'rider' is similiar to our 'all risks' . Yes Im sure under contents would be sufficient anyway. We have a TV worth more than the remote:eek: and thats on my home insurance! Anyway just called them back now but no answer as of yet:confused:

Mark56 09-10-2010 06:55 PM

Cell LOOoooo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fionab (Post 693923)
I talked to my ins. gal today, here in Ohio, and she said there's several ways she's thinking I could insure the remotes and the charger (my rep. suggested both be insured, and for me that means 2 remotes and 2 chargers). She said it might be able to go under my usual house insurance under "contents" or that I may be able to do it as one does expensive jewelery ( a rider), or I may be able to take out a totally separate policy on them. She's going to get back to me once she looks into it more.

By the way, she said they get a lot of claims of people's cellphones going in the "loo". Is there a theme here??:D:D

Lost my earbud for the cell phone that way in an airport once. No I was not talking on the phone. Yes, it just went kerplunk. Trashed. Yuk.
Mark56:)

Rrae 09-11-2010 02:04 PM

Yet ANOTHER ingenious thread!
 
This insurance issue is VERY VERY intriguing!
I can't wait till i get to visit with my Rep this week.....I never would have thought to bring this up if it werent' for you my WONDERFUL peeps!! (HUGE 'thumbs up').....

I can certainly see why this would have the homeowner agents scrambling for answers......I too am having a hard time seeing a connection in how our house is responsible for our units. ?

The LOO! Beleive it or not, I can EASILY see how this happens!
Especially during recovery time after surgery......
The most convenient way for me to carry my 'necessities' (controller, cell phone - so as not to have to go 'running' to try and answer phone while in recovery of surgery)...... was to wear those 'fat pants' I talked about earlier....pockets......yep. And alot of folks do carry their cells and stuff in their pockets ,...or strapped to their waistband/belt....
Pulling ones' pants down to do our potty duties.......things fall out of pockets........:o......yep......
Seems absolutely absurd, but I've heard of it happening quite a lot.......

Back to the insurance issue......
absolutely incredible ....... this topic takes the cake......
........well...maybe the 'suppository discusson' comes in to a close 2nd.....:p

You know the saying '2 heads are better than 1'......
Boy is THAT an understatement!!
LOOK what we are coming up with as we ALL put OUR heads together!!
I honestly think we have catipulted ourselves straight into GENIOUS mode~!!
:Good-Post::Clever::Clever::Clever::Clever:

anon21816 09-13-2010 10:14 AM

Finally!
 
Today I finally got a response from my home insurers.

The guy told me that YES they were 'willing' to insure my remote for my stim. He told me that I need 'proof of ownership' in the event that if I claim for the remote I have to prove that it belongs to me. I told him that I got this implant through the hospital and of course it was mine:D as the system is IN ME!!!!!!
Anyway I told him that in the event of me having to claim from the insurers for the said item, I would then get a letter from the hospital affirming that I AM the owner of said item...Geezzzzz I doubt I would have to do it for my tv remote, but there you go!
The pleasure of having it now insured has cost me an administrative charge of €25 ($32 approx)

Must rememeber NOT to bring it to the loo with me though;)

fionab 09-15-2010 09:47 AM

Still looking into insurance coverage cost. For now, looks like my homeowner's insurance agent is suggesting a separate policy, like for expensive jewelry (never have to worry about THAT!), but hasn't come back with a price yet.

Talked to Boston Scientific and got some prices from them.
The remote and charger unit both have a one year warranty for malfunction problems only...
not for accident, such as dropping in the loo :D

Prices I was given:
To replace a remote: $1285
To replace the charger: $3390
For me double that, since I have two implants :eek:

Boston Scientific did say that after the one year warranty, they offer an extended "malfunction only" warranty on an annual basis. It's around $200 per year for their extended warranty. Again, for me we're looking at $400 per year.

Will have to talk to my homeowners ins. gal to see if this new policy we're considering will cover "warranty" issues or if I'll actully have to go throw it in the loo or run over it with my car to get it covered :confused:

Will keep you posted. And I thought the cost of getting these babies was expensive :thud:

fionab 09-15-2010 11:28 AM

Here's the final answer....
 
My insurance gal just called me again. The remotes and chargers WILL fall under my homeowner's ins. policy's "personal property" section and my deductible will apply. They cannot put the remotes/chargers on a rider, or under a separate policy, as in insuring one's expensive jewelry. So looks like no added cost there, which is good.

What's funny is that she said she was told that if my dog chews them, it's not covered but if the neighbor's dog chews them it IS covered. She said that if it's an accidental fall then it is covered, but if I get mad and throw it and damage it, it is NOT covered. So, I just had to ask her....what if I get mad and throw it at the neighbor's dog?? :confused: She laughed and said it would not be covered.

They will cover if it damaged (and if it falls in the loo...yeah :D ) but not if it's a malfunction problem. That, they say, is to be covered by Bost. Scientific. So I will have to seriously consider buying Bost. Scientific's extended warranty after the first year's free warranty runs out.

Hope this helps.

anon21816 09-15-2010 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fionab (Post 695267)
My insurance gal just called me again. The remotes and chargers WILL fall under my homeowner's ins. policy's "personal property" section and my deductible will apply. They cannot put the remotes/chargers on a rider, or under a separate policy, as in insuring one's expensive jewelry. So looks like no added cost there, which is good.

What's funny is that she said she was told that if my dog chews them, it's not covered but if the neighbor's dog chews them it IS covered. She said that if it's an accidental fall then it is covered, but if I get mad and throw it and damage it, it is NOT covered. So, I just had to ask her....what if I get mad and throw it at the neighbor's dog?? :confused: She laughed and said it would not be covered.

They will cover if it damaged (and if it falls in the loo...yeah :D ) but not if it's a malfunction problem. That, they say, is to be covered by Bost. Scientific. So I will have to seriously consider buying Bost. Scientific's extended warranty after the first year's free warranty runs out.

Hope this helps.

Hmmmmm very interesting that the neighbours dog chewing it would be covered but not your own , weird that! It does add the question, why would the dog next door be using your remote:D

Yes it should be on your home insurance, same as any other piece of equipment that it in your house under contents. like for instance the REMOTE FOR TV, or the REMOTE FOR THE DVD player......I think its the fact that once we say its a 'medical' remote etc it kinda sents them off running in the opposite direction!
Glad that its not too expensive for you Fiona, thats the last thing you need now.
BTW did you have to contribute to either of your systems? do I recall you saying you did?
I spoke with a lady in the hospital last week and she was told she would have to give €10k (approx $12.5k) towards her system:eek: a shortfall on her insurance policy, thankfully I didnt have to pay any! phew!!!!

fionab 09-15-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jackiekennedy (Post 695289)
Hmmmmm very interesting that the neighbours dog chewing it would be covered but not your own , weird that! It does add the question, why would the dog next door be using your remote:D

Yes it should be on your home insurance, same as any other piece of equipment that it in your house under contents. like for instance the REMOTE FOR TV, or the REMOTE FOR THE DVD player......I think its the fact that once we say its a 'medical' remote etc it kinda sents them off running in the opposite direction!
Glad that its not too expensive for you Fiona, thats the last thing you need now.
BTW did you have to contribute to either of your systems? do I recall you saying you did?
I spoke with a lady in the hospital last week and she was told she would have to give €10k (approx $12.5k) towards her system:eek: a shortfall on her insurance policy, thankfully I didnt have to pay any! phew!!!!

My insurance policy says that I only have to pay a maximum of $2,350 per year out of pocket, so that's the highest amount I'll have to pay. The ins. company and hospital and doctor are still haggling over the price that they'll agree on, so don't know for sure yet just how much of that $2,350 I'll owe...probably all of it, as the twins were expensive.

anon21816 09-15-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fionab (Post 695327)
My insurance policy says that I only have to pay a maximum of $2,350 per year out of pocket, so that's the highest amount I'll have to pay. The ins. company and hospital and doctor are still haggling over the price that they'll agree on, so don't know for sure yet just how much of that $2,350 I'll owe...probably all of it, as the twins were expensive.

Well I hope its not too much :).....mine is fully covered by my health insurance,except I had a shortfall for accomodation so that was 275euro per night, which was ok, considering the total cost of the operation:eek:

Rrae 09-15-2010 04:51 PM

Ok!
 
FIONA! :D Your witt never ceases to amaze me!

This thread has me completely intrigued.......SO.......
I have consulted with my personal canine detective agency......
http://dl5.glitter-graphics.net/pub/...dlw31me1n5.gif BECAUSE, think of THIS scenerio!
........
Let's just say Fiona .......DROPS one of her controllers in the loo........
has her DOG retrieve it for her....and HER dog chews on it a bit.....which of course would make Fiona VERY angry.....so, she throws the controller at HER dog......but then quickly comes to her senses......and remembers her policy small print......so, she runs out into her yard and throws the remote at the NEIGHBORS dog, who....of course thinks she is playing 'fetch'....and the neighbors Dog....thus CHEWS on the remote......

So THIS brings to the table a reason to have the canine detecive agency on board......and believe me, hiring one of these is probably not cheap.......
so.......maybe ?.....maybe she should have just left the damn thing in the loo.
But what if Fiona were at her neighbors house and it fell in her NEIGHBOR's LOO!! :eek: omg.....!!
I'd hate to be the sorry insurance adjuster who has to be the one on the scene trying to make a CASE out of this!! :rolleyes:

fionab 09-15-2010 08:03 PM

You're so funny, Rae. Hopefully the ins. gal won't have to deal with such a wild scenario, should I ever have to file a claim :D

I'm hoping the adjustor she was getting her info. from was thinking straight and giving her correct information...he was off work, at home, dealing with his problem septic system...so he was up to his hiney in "you know what". Hey, I wonder if that would be another legit. way to lose my remote...it fell in the septic tank. Of course, if it falls in my loo, it ends up in the septic tank anyhow. Don't think I'd go washing that off :eek:

It begs the question, if it falls in the loo, does the insurance company want to see the "damaged goods"?

Mark56 09-16-2010 12:31 AM

Oh Good Grief
 
And I thought Charles Schulz had Charlie Brown hitting his head on a tree for some reason. Maybe that was why Lucy was always getting the 5 cents for psych consultation.

Maybe we need to have these legally classified as some artificial life form [you know, since we name them and all] and seek inclusion of them as family members under our health insurance...... :D

Oh, Good Grief:thud:
Mark56 PJ :D

Rrae 09-16-2010 07:08 AM

Lucy was an ingenious 'shrew'......!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark56 (Post 695477)
And I thought Charles Schulz had Charlie Brown hitting his head on a tree for some reason. Maybe that was why Lucy was always getting the 5 cents for psych consultation.

Maybe we need to have these legally classified as some artificial life form [you know, since we name them and all] and seek inclusion of them as family members under our health insurance...... :D

Oh, Good Grief:thud:
Mark56 PJ :D

I'm thinking the reason Charlie hit head on the tree was due to the frustration brought about by the football that Lucy invariably pulled away from him as he had his heart set on the big 'punt', thus landing flat on his back.
(?) I"m wondering if CHARLIE has an SCS by now?!
So then, yes, she turns around and sets up the psych booth - one smart gal.
Snoopy tho......he takes the cake.

And I LIKE the idea of carrying our SCS's as family members under our policies.......which would THEN mean - couldn't we go one step farther and use them as a TAX writeoff as household 'dependents'.....? .....especially since our kids our grown up and leaving! We could maybe STILL break even!

fionab 09-16-2010 10:19 AM

So every time I go to the loo I'm wondering, "OK, where are those remotes?"

I'll be guarding those babies with my life if that's how much they cost to replace, esp. since I don't have a neighbor dog to blame it on.

As Mark mentioned in another thread somewhere, I feel like I'm going around with them, saying "My precious, my precious..."


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