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bigsav32 10-15-2010 10:40 AM

sex after ketamine inpatient infusions
 
has it been a problem with sex after the ketamine procedure.asking because its tough enough with all the meds now,finally have a grasp on it now with this procedure coming up wondered if it would set me back even further.

Reddawn600 10-15-2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bigsav32@yahoo.com (Post 704990)
has it been a problem with sex after the ketamine procedure.asking because its tough enough with all the meds now,finally have a grasp on it now with this procedure coming up wondered if it would set me back even further.

Nice to know I'm not alone as having that as one of my chief concerns. :wink:

I may be coming from a different approach as i'm unsure if you are male or female but the meds do wreak havoc on sex and I'm praying that's something that will improve after the ketamine. 3 more weeks to go for me but I guess you'll be first. Let us know!
Dawn

fmichael 10-15-2010 02:01 PM

Could you folks be a little more specific please?
 
Assuming I get clearance from a glaucoma specialist at USC, I'm probably going to do the ten day, out-patient infusions of 200 mg. over a four hour period.

Just exactly what side effects - for men and women - are you guys talking about? And how long do they last?

Thanks,
Mike

gabbycakes 10-15-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bigsav32 (Post 704990)
has it been a problem with sex after the ketamine procedure.asking because its tough enough with all the meds now,finally have a grasp on it now with this procedure coming up wondered if it would set me back even further.

I have done 3 - 5 day inpatient ketamine infusions and honestly never had any issues on that level after. You do need a certain amount of time to recover from the procedure but we never experienced any problems.

Hope this helps.

Gabbycakes

bigsav32 10-15-2010 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gabbycakes (Post 705209)
I have done 3 - 5 day inpatient ketamine infusions and honestly never had any issues on that level after. You do need a certain amount of time to recover from the procedure but we never experienced any problems.

Hope this helps.

Gabbycakes

thanks,LOL

bigsav32 10-15-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmichael (Post 705090)
Assuming I get clearance from a glaucoma specialist at USC, I'm probably going to do the ten day, out-patient infusions of 200 mg. over a four hour period.

Just exactly what side effects - for men and women - are you guys talking about? And how long do they last?

Thanks,
Mike

mike, thats why i asked because im not sure have'nt had the procedure yet, but i know with a lot of the meds doctors prescribes, having so much can be tough on sex assuming you are even in the mood from your condition

fmichael 10-15-2010 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bigsav32 (Post 705228)
mike, thats why i asked because im not sure have'nt had the procedure yet, but i know with a lot of the meds doctors prescribes, having so much can be tough on sex assuming you are even in the mood from your condition

I guess the thing with ketamine is that once its left your system, and the quoted figure is 72 hours, it's gone. Compare that to most meds, where when you're on them, you're generally trying to keep a relatively constant level of the drug in your system at all times.

Then again, thinking back at least 30 years, it was never all that easy to get it on when I was directly under the influence of any substance intended to put me in a "dissociative state." Perhaps other other folks had more luck in that department. Dunno.

Mike

gabbycakes 10-16-2010 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fmichael (Post 705288)
I guess the thing with ketamine is that once its left your system, and the quoted figure is 72 hours, it's gone. Compare that to most meds, where when you're on them, you're generally trying to keep a relatively constant level of the drug in your system at all times.

Then again, thinking back at least 30 years, it was never all that easy to get it on when I was directly under the influence of any substance intended to put me in a "dissociative state." Perhaps other other folks had more luck in that department. Dunno.

Mike

Hi All,

I just wanted to make a comment about the long lasting side effects after having a ketamine infusion. We all have heard about the hallucinations, I refer to them as heavy, heavy deep, deep dreaming I really never felt hallucinations. Prior to this nightmare I was a normal sleeper remembered a slight dream here and there, except when I was a child I used to sleep walk which makes my next point interesting I think. Since all the ketamine and after the first 2 weeks and then you start your boosters you are basically back to normal and with less pain, headaches, sleeping better, the burning has stopped blal.blah. The one thing that did get worse and not in a bad way is that as my husband puts it, you have a whole live of you own at night when you sleep, I talk, full conversations, I dream extremely heavy and they are not nightmares or scary but it's a whole episode not every night but a lot. As I mentioned above I used to sleep walk as a child so I always must have had some kind of sleep issue but I grew out of that by 10-11 and never experienced this type of dreaming until the ketamine, it prompted my memory of my sleep walking immediately. I just thought that was interesting. Please don't read to much into it.

gabbycakes

SandyRI 10-17-2010 07:59 AM

Since going up to 200 mg ketamine boosters a month or so ago, (still considered an a pretty low dose), I've started having intense dreams. Like I have never had before. Most of them are medically related and really scary and bloody. I hate it. They seem to be related to the ketamine. I don't get them every night, just once in a while.



Quote:

Originally Posted by gabbycakes (Post 705344)
Hi All,

I just wanted to make a comment about the long lasting side effects after having a ketamine infusion. We all have heard about the hallucinations, I refer to them as heavy, heavy deep, deep dreaming I really never felt hallucinations. Prior to this nightmare I was a normal sleeper remembered a slight dream here and there, except when I was a child I used to sleep walk which makes my next point interesting I think. Since all the ketamine and after the first 2 weeks and then you start your boosters you are basically back to normal and with less pain, headaches, sleeping better, the burning has stopped blal.blah. The one thing that did get worse and not in a bad way is that as my husband puts it, you have a whole live of you own at night when you sleep, I talk, full conversations, I dream extremely heavy and they are not nightmares or scary but it's a whole episode not every night but a lot. As I mentioned above I used to sleep walk as a child so I always must have had some kind of sleep issue but I grew out of that by 10-11 and never experienced this type of dreaming until the ketamine, it prompted my memory of my sleep walking immediately. I just thought that was interesting. Please don't read to much into it.

gabbycakes


gabbycakes 10-17-2010 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandyRI (Post 705674)
Since going up to 200 mg ketamine boosters a month or so ago, (still considered an a pretty low dose), I've started having intense dreams. Like I have never had before. Most of them are medically related and really scary and bloody. I hate it. They seem to be related to the ketamine. I don't get them every night, just once in a while.

Really intersting Sandy. Sorry to here yours are bloody and scary.

How are you feeling?

Gabbycakes

finz 10-19-2010 02:55 AM

That stinks Sandy,,,,I hope you can get things settled before the pain comes creeping back

Truffle 10-26-2010 06:41 PM

USC ketamine infusion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fmichael (Post 705090)
Assuming I get clearance from a glaucoma specialist at USC, I'm probably going to do the ten day, out-patient infusions of 200 mg. over a four hour period.

Just exactly what side effects - for men and women - are you guys talking about? And how long do they last?

Thanks,
Mike

Hi, Mike -- are you doing the ketamine infusion through the USC Pain Center? I'm newly diagnosed with RSD and literally just starting to research the ketamine infusion treatments, there is nothing where I live currently, but I used in live in L.A. [and went to grad school at USC] so would consider that center. Did you get a consult with Linda Rever, or how did you go about it? Any info would be appreciated. thanks!
T.

fmichael 10-27-2010 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truffle (Post 708976)
Hi, Mike -- are you doing the ketamine infusion through the USC Pain Center? I'm newly diagnosed with RSD and literally just starting to research the ketamine infusion treatments, there is nothing where I live currently, but I used in live in L.A. [and went to grad school at USC] so would consider that center. Did you get a consult with Linda Rever, or how did you go about it? Any info would be appreciated. thanks!
T.

T -

I understand that the ketamine program at USC is just getting off the ground. I have been a patient of Steven Richeimer, MD, the Director of the USC Pain Center and Chief of Pain Medicine at USC, since 2003, in one capacity or another: first as a consultant and w/in the last 3 years as my primary.

When I last saw him in August, he told me that I was not going to be his first patient - he didn't know who was - because with my histrory of glaucoma and the apparent need to have my pressures monitored during the procedure which he is setting up through another department - he didn't want to take the chance that their first case could be scrubbed by Ophthalmology well before the series of infusions had ended.

As it is, my glaucoma specialist has referred me to an ophthalmologist at USC, whom I will see in a week or two, both to to determine if I need additional meds for my glaucoma and whether he will oversee the monitoring of my pressures during the infusions by a resident of clinical fellow. But if he does not believe that I should be receiving ketamine under any circumstances, then it's the same result as I had via email with the doctors in Saarbrücken, Germany on Aug. 13, 2004, when I was told - with tickets for travel in 9 or 10 days already in hand - that even well controlled open angle-glaucoma operated to per se disqualify me from participating in their ketamine coma trials.
Hopefully, that won't happen here. And so far, the early indications are looking good, at least on the issue of per se disqualification.

And while there are other doctors in LA administering ketamine, I would trust Dr. Richeimer with my life. That, and USC takes most insurance, whereas the other guys who are into this are essentially (if not exclusively) on a cash basis.

So I'll see what happens. Thanks for asking.

Mike

Reddawn600 10-27-2010 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabbycakes (Post 705899)
Really intersting Sandy. Sorry to here yours are bloody and scary.

How are you feeling?

Gabbycakes

Sandy,

Are you being given the antipsychotics during and at the end of the infusions? I wonder if maybe a benzo to take the first couple of nights after the infusion might help if you PM would do it?

Dawn

SandyRI 10-27-2010 05:40 AM

Mike - I think it is so incredibly cool that this is finally happening for you. I truly wish you the very best. Please keep us all updated....

love and peace....Sandy

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmichael (Post 709083)
T -

I understand that the ketamine program at USC is just getting off the ground. I have been a patient of Steven Richeimer, MD, the Director of the USC Pain Center and Chief of Pain Medicine at USC, since 2003, in one capacity or another: first as a consultant and w/in the last 3 years as my primary.

When I last saw him in August, he told me that I was not going to be his first patient - he didn't know who was - because with my histrory of glaucoma and the apparent need to have my pressures monitored during the procedure which he is setting up through another department - he didn't want to take the chance that their first case could be scrubbed by Ophthalmology well before the series of infusions had ended.

As it is, my glaucoma specialist has referred me to an ophthalmologist at USC, whom I will see in a week or two, both to to determine if I need additional meds for my glaucoma and whether he will oversee the monitoring of my pressures during the infusions by a resident of clinical fellow. But if he does not believe that I should be receiving ketamine under any circumstances, then it's the same result as I had via email with the doctors in Saarbrücken, Germany on Aug. 13, 2004, when I was told - with tickets for travel in 9 or 10 days already in hand - that even well controlled open angle-glaucoma operated to per se disqualify me from participating in their ketamine coma trials.
Hopefully, that won't happen here. And so far, the early indications are looking good, at least on the issue of per se disqualification.

And while there are other doctors in LA administering ketamine, I would trust Dr. Richeimer with my life. That, and USC takes most insurance, whereas the other guys who are into this are essentially (if not exclusively) on a cash basis.

So I'll see what happens. Thanks for asking.

Mike


SandyRI 10-27-2010 05:42 AM

Thanks for the suggestion...never thought of that!!

xoxox Sandy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reddawn600 (Post 709090)
Sandy,

Are you being given the antipsychotics during and at the end of the infusions? I wonder if maybe a benzo to take the first couple of nights after the infusion might help if you PM would do it?

Dawn


Pixie Girl 09-06-2014 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmichael (Post 705288)
I guess the thing with ketamine is that once its left your system, and the quoted figure is 72 hours, it's gone. Compare that to most meds, where when you're on them, you're generally trying to keep a relatively constant level of the drug in your system at all times.

Then again, thinking back at least 30 years, it was never all that easy to get it on when I was directly under the influence of any substance intended to put me in a "dissociative state." Perhaps other other folks had more luck in that department. Dunno.

Mike

Mike, I just wanted to thank you for one of the first serious smiles I've had since this nightmare started. Your reference to what you did 30 years ago made me giggle, because I personally related to those experiences. I'm seriously considering the ketamine at this point because the spinal injections are not working and they want to take away my pain meds. This sounds more promising, and less invasive, than the implant they want to put in my spine, a sort of tens unit. Not really to excited about that one - so thanks everyone for the information!

Pix

CatPutsche 09-14-2014 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandyRI (Post 709119)
Thanks for the suggestion...never thought of that!!

xoxox Sandy


Hi Sandy -

I'm new, so I'm sorry to butt into your conversation. Doesn't your doctor prescribe Ativan before you do your infusion? It's standard practice by ours, so I just wondered.

My 12-year-old does the ketamine outpatient infusions 4 days a week (for 4 hours) and has done the hospital inpatient infusions 5 times now. They have been successful each time for her. She was diagnosed with RSD/CRPS on 3/23/14 and it's been a nightmare for us. She also takes ketamine orally twice a day in the form of a lozenge that was specially compounded for her at one of the pharmacies here. Perhaps that's something that the doctor could think of for you as well? Oh - we are in San Antonio, TX.

I hope this helps you!!! :grouphug

Catherine

PS I'm so excited to see someplace that actually has other people doing the ketamine treatments! But no one's mentioned doing the oral ketamine?

Russell 09-14-2014 02:25 PM

Hi Cat,
Welcome to the forum.
I know that there are some folks in here but I never talk about other people.
If you start a new thread about it I'm sure someone will jump in...

Pixie Girl 09-14-2014 11:56 PM

26 treatments?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SandyRI (Post 706150)
I am feeling the onset of the cold in the Northeast!! And for now, until my attorney gets me a court date, I am cut off from my ketamine infusions by my RI doc because my authorization has just expired (I was only approved for 90 days by the WC court). My last infusion was a week and a half ago, so hopefully it will last at least another week and a half or more. We can file a request for a court date in the next few days and hopefully get one within a month.

So I am off WC payroll, and back to work, but still being tortured by WC. Makes no sense, but that's how it is. My head and shoulder will never be normal, but I've learned how to deal with them most of the time. Unfortunately, since April, I have never had to deal with them for longer than 4 weeks without ketamine or really strong meds.

Dr. Getson NEVER cut me off for lack of $$ or authorization. EVER. He cared more about the patient than his lining his own pockets. I miss him. My RI doc (court ordered) is just not like that at all. He comes across as the nicest man in town, and is highly qualified. But when the chips are down, he will leave you in pain rather than risk a loss of revenue (which is not likely in my case because every one of my ketamine bills has been paid to date by The Hartford - all 26 infusions). It sucks.

Sorry for the rant. Hope the colder weather is OK for you - I know the hot weather made you miserable.

Thanks so much for asking about me - and you take care, XOXO Sandy

Sandy,

I am just learning about the Ketamine - I thought it was a one time shot? It sounds like you have to go for repeat treatments?

I am so sorry to hear you are having trouble with WC - I know that sorrow all too well.

Pix


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