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kicker 11-14-2010 09:16 AM

Drugs. OMG
 
When it comes to drugs, I'm a Newbie. My PCP insisted I have Baclophen (Sp ?) in the house, just in case I need it, have never used it. My MS Neurologist at Johns Hopkins has prescribed Gabapentin and Hydroco/Aceam for use at night night,lying down I get joint pain/muscle pain in my shoulder, arm, elbow/hand. Seems very neurological how it acts. Took the Hydro/|Acetam (generic Vicidin) @ hour before bed. Pain was there, could feel some throb, but the edge was off, I was so tired (drug), slept through it all night, woke up ok. Did that 3 nights, Last night took 1/2 the 600mg tab of Gabapentin (Neurotin?) Slept, but this morning I'm loopy, shadow of a headache popping round my head, almost double vision. Do I have a drug hang-over? I've never done liquor well and when the gave me valium as they did everyone before Laser surgery to relax you, well fine for that big guy, but same amount for 110 lb me made me zonk right out. They had to use a thing to prop my eyes open for the surgery I'm told. I didn't feel a thing, sleeping rag-doll I was. DH was there, helped hoist me onto operating table, said nurses said they never had such a good patient (Ha, ha?) The way I feel, I never want Gaba. again. Should I try less? Vicidin was OK. Will I become a House?

SallyC 11-14-2010 12:02 PM

Yes, Dr. Kicker, Vicodine is the choice of fine addict Doctors everywhere.:D

kicker 11-14-2010 12:26 PM

I am not a drug addict!! We're talking 1 at bedtime. Excuse me, got to go take my Amantadine (we call it my puppy-upper), Vesicare (we call it anti-pee) and my Antibiotic (1 a day to help prevent UTIs - so far so good), (actually I took them earlier this morning) Will have another puppy-upper after my nap.

Aarcyn 11-14-2010 12:45 PM

I can ask my friend/pharmacist about your reactions to the various medications and the combination of pills you took at one time. E-mail me what you took that day and when.

As far as Gabapentin - I believe it is one of those drugs that is "ramped up" slowly and if one wants to get of it, it must be "ramped down."

I used it for a few years but two things: it did not do much and I was always neurotic if I did not take a pill at a certain time to regulate how much was in my system.

I would rather deal with the pain.

My thought is a good soothing eucalyptus rub by a very handsome muscular massage eye candy guy. It would be great to be able to store him in the closet and just bring him out when needed, like some medications.:D

SallyC 11-14-2010 01:18 PM

Listen to Cyn, Kicky...her knows what her's talking about..:D

kicker 11-14-2010 01:45 PM

Do I have to get a prescription for a hunky guy? My neurologist's mouth is gonna drop open when I ask for this.

PS- My neuro is kinda cute but don't tell him!!

TRESA 11-14-2010 01:46 PM

:D:Good-Post::Funny-Post: Ya'all just keep me a laughin ...

PolarExpress 11-14-2010 02:24 PM

I can't take any of that stuff either. Maybe it doesn't mix well with blonde, but you're a redhead so you shouldn't have that problem. :confused:

kicker 11-14-2010 02:38 PM

Polar,
You can't take hunky guys?! And you call yourself a blonde. Geez.

Aarcyn 11-14-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicker (Post 715908)
Polar,
You can't take hunky guys?! And you call yourself a blonde. Geez.

Guess it must not be true that blonds have more fun because blondie polar does not know what to do with a hunky guy....

kicker 11-14-2010 05:57 PM

Polar, you gonna take that? (fight! fight!)

Aarcyn 11-14-2010 06:10 PM

@Kicker - You started this thread so if blondie bear wants to pick a fight, she has to go through you first.

kicker 11-14-2010 07:16 PM

Not fair. She's bigger than me.

SandyC 11-14-2010 07:19 PM

Your all out of league. Jim's got you all beat. 28 pills a day. Bamm! Take that you whittle addicts! Yeah, and he used to take 56 a day until someone introduced him to some chick named Maryjane! He's been having an affair with her for almost 7 years. Woot!

Aarcyn 11-14-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kicker (Post 716024)
Not fair. She's bigger than me.

BIGGER than you??? Did you really say that??? Are you implying something about blondie big bear?

Oh Kicker. Just wait until she comes to YOUR thread and sees YOU taking shots about her hair box color and body size.

Hide Kicker! Hide!

kicker 11-14-2010 07:36 PM

I'm only 5 feet 3/4 inch tall. EVERYONE is bigger than me.

SandyC 11-14-2010 07:40 PM

BTW, Gabapentin worked for Jim but he gained an enormous amount of weight and you cannot ever, I mean ever, stop taking it without weening down. He said when he stopped, he never felt better though. The stuff was wiping him out and he didn't even realize it because of all the other meds he took.

PolarExpress 11-14-2010 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicker (Post 715908)
Polar,
You can't take hunky guys?! And you call yourself a blonde. Geez.

Ach...I leave for a couple hours and see what happens? I was talking about your drug assortment, Kicker, NOT the hunky guys. 'Sides, don't need no rx, I can get them anywhere :winky:.
Oh, and Kicker's right. I am bigger 'an her, just under 5'9". Lucky I'm just a teddy bear, eh? :Halo:

EddieF 11-15-2010 05:01 PM

lol to hunky guy tolerance. Hey Kicker is marijuana legal in your state? Helps you sleep, relax spasms a bit & take away just enough pain. If not ask for marinol and have insurance pay 13$/day for 1 tiny pill...get 2/day. 26$. maybe someone will realize how much $$ gets wasted on oxy this and mari that. Rain water, sunshne & a seed is cheaper to medicare i believe. Rocket science isn't it.

kicker 11-15-2010 06:20 PM

Maryland does not have medical MJ, but a 45 minute drive away, DC has it. Even more convenient my cleaning lady, daughter of ex-addicts can get it for me.

Aarcyn 11-15-2010 06:34 PM

As I was saying to SandyC, my pharmacist friend has a location lined up and a grower in place. This was based on AZ passing MMJ, which it did by a very narrow margin. It had passed twice before but now, it is the real deal.

So I am going to get a script and try to render the THC and start cooking. My goal is to find a way to mask the taste and make the cookie/whatever taste good. Maybe I can sell them to her for distribution. Maybe a money maker and doing a good thing for those in need.

Only problem - taste testing!

PolarExpress 11-15-2010 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aarcyn (Post 716484)
Only problem - taste testing!

...And this is a problem how exactly? :winky:

kicker 11-16-2010 12:32 PM

Took 2/3 of half the 600 gm pills I have =@ 200 grams. Scientist BIL here, ground it up, got correct amount but then we (me) found out it does not mix in liquid, tastes awful in my little cranberry drink and biting it, downing it with water works better. It was better this morning, but still felt drug hung-over this morning for awhile. DH can get some "medicinal MJ from cancer-patient grandma of a client so told him to try. The grandma works to distribute it to those who need it.

0357 11-17-2010 09:27 AM

Gabapentin or Neurontin
 
I was prescribed Neurontin or Gabapentin and twice I had a build-up in my body and overdosed. Landed in the hospital for 3 days each time this happened.

The first time my dosage of Neurontin or Gabapentin was cut in half. The second time I overdosed I was taken off Neurontin, Klonopin (addicting like Valium, etc.) and Tramadol.

I went through withdrawal and the overdose for 3 days. I couldn't tell my hallucinations from reality. I was told by my doctors Neurontin travels by your nerves and MS affects your nerves thus the build-up then overdose.

I do not agree with giving Neurontin or Gabapentin to MS patients. It's a new drug and too has side effects of different types of cancer I recently found out.

I see my neuro in December and I would like to share my experience w/him (Neurontin or Gabapentin) and too tell him I learned different manufacturers of Baclofen make you extremely tired (all you need to do is ask your pharmacist to switch Baclofen manufacturers).

Take care.

SandyC 11-17-2010 11:38 AM

Hey, I know how to make canna butter if anyone wants to make cookies or dessert that requires butter. :wink: Very easy.

Aarcyn 11-17-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandyC (Post 717075)
Hey, I know how to make canna butter if anyone wants to make cookies or dessert that requires butter. :wink: Very easy.

in the Spring when I can get a MMJ card. I am hoping to eliminate Requip and Baclofen to substitute MMJ when needed. Would rather use an herb than a drug.

Should be an interesting adventure. If it does not work, I can always go back to the drug.

Good thing about being older, doctors don't intimidate me. I know how to work them.:)

SandyC 11-17-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aarcyn (Post 717082)
in the Spring when I can get a MMJ card. I am hoping to eliminate Requip and Baclofen to substitute MMJ when needed. Would rather use an herb than a drug.

Should be an interesting adventure. If it does not work, I can always go back to the drug.

Good thing about being older, doctors don't intimidate me. I know how to work them.:)

Amen to that!!!


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