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Koala77 11-21-2010 10:12 PM

Need help deleting files!
 
I intend getting rid of my old desk top computer, scanner and printer. They all work perfectly well, but I only use my lap top now and as I have a new scanner/printer, the others are now superfluous.

They're all too old to sell so I intend giving them to charity.

My questions are :

How do I delete all my files, emails etc, from the hard drive so the new owner cannot access my computer history?

Do I need to delete every single file one by one, or is there a quicker way? I have never cleaned my hard drive because I don't know how but I do clear my browsing history on shut down, but that's about the extent of my cleansing knowledge.

I have noticed an option to restore computer to factory settings. Is this what I use? Is there another way to delete everything?

Also....

I added more RAM to the desk top computer a little while back, by way of another card. Should I leave it in, or should I take it out before getting rid of the computer? If I remove it... how do I keep it, seeing I no longer have the magnetic (or anti-magnetic) pouch it came in?

I can't remember how many extra oomphs I added, but it was probably 2. The only reason I'd take it out would be if some-one else (or me) could use it. Might that card fit my laptop, or are the notches on the sides particular to desktops ?

My desktop is an HP pavillion, and my laptop a Dell.

Jomar 11-21-2010 10:28 PM

does your anti virus program have a secure shredding feature?

here's a list of secure shredder programs on cnet -
http://download.cnet.com/1770-2018_4...entNav;navForm


how to totally wipe your hard drive-
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=...9933d19f024e3b

You can also pull out the hard drive and keep it, then donate the rest of the computer.


For the RAM memory it is most likely a different type and won't work in a newer machine/laptop.

to double check you can look up what kind both machines have and see if it is the same or not.
system info should state what kind is installed.
or in the BIOS section

Koala77 11-22-2010 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jo*mar (Post 718478)
does your anti virus program have a secure shredding feature?....

I don't know! :confused:

My old desk top runs Windows XP and I use McAfee as my scanner. I had a look at their home page, but couldn't see anything that looked like a shredding service.... so probably not.

Just so you know....... I laughed when I read that I could always pull out my hard drive and keep it!

Hard drive? What's a hard drive? :D
I have heard the term, but as an action (like pull out the hard drive), do you realise how alien that is to me?



IF I wipe my hard drive....... will there be any programs left?
Will the new owner be able to access the Internet, or an email server?
Would the screen be completely blank?
Will the factory installed progams still be available?

Can you tell I don't know an awful lot about the workings of computers? :D

I've bookmarked the sites you provided Jo*Mar and I'll check them out over the next few days. Thank you!
I do appreciate your help.

Jomar 11-22-2010 12:33 AM

found some more info and program names.
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...se-utility.htm


It really is simple to remove your hard drive, turn off computer, open the case {usually 2 screws & then slides open}
look for a metal rectangle about 4"x 6" and 1" thick with some cables plugged into it.
Just unplug the connectors & unscrew the little screws holding it in the case, pull it out and viola.

DC & DVD drives are usually up near the top and the Hard drive is in center or near bottom of case.

this site has info
http://www.ehow.com/how_4425468_remove-hard-drive.html

video too-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lVnFlFrqhE

Koala77 11-22-2010 12:38 AM

Thank you for that.

I can't do any of those things today, but hopefully tomorrow I'll have time to start checking them out.

I still have to remove photos and saved files, so this might take a while :rolleyes:

mrsD 11-22-2010 04:42 AM

Most older computers have very small hard drives.

If anyone actually uses your donated computer, they would probably put in a newer bigger one anyway.

And Jo is right, about the RAM. I'd leave it. Today RAM is very inexpensive, and the size of the clips is tied to the type of computer you have and not interchangeable easily with others.

Basically if you remove the harddrive, the only things left are the motherboard with the working chip and your sound/video card.

I'd keep the hard drive myself. Some day you might want to retrieve the data.

Ask where you donate it ... how it will be used. I would think it would be taken apart for parts, as a likely scenario. My son used to do that, and rebuild new ones. Schools etc may use a donated one that way.

Dejibo 11-24-2010 09:42 AM

most computers have a way to roll it back to factory or new out of the box condition. Who makes your computer?

Go to the internet and google "your computer name and model" and ask how to reset to factory condition. usually its a matter of pressing one button when it starts up, and then following the prompts. it will remove all of YOUR information without destroying the programs that are on your machine, so others can use them.

Hope that helps.

Koala77 11-24-2010 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dejibo (Post 719397)
most computers have a way to roll it back to factory or new out of the box condition. Who makes your computer? ....

Thanks Dej.

I do remember seeing a "Restore to Factory Settings" option on the computer, which is an HP by the way.

I will check this out if I decide not to remove the hard drive.

Thank you.

Jomar 11-24-2010 11:24 PM

I wonder if that factory restore setting does a secure deletion/shredding of files & your info??:confused:

I would do some Google searches for info on that before using that option for a computer you will be donating.

Normal deletion of files by accident or on purpose - can be recovered by file recovery programs - I've done it even after a reformat of the drive - I was able to use a free recovery program and get files, photos and programs back.

Jomar 11-25-2010 12:23 AM

found this program

[Darik's Boot and Nuke ("DBAN") is a self-contained boot disk that securely wipes the hard disks of most computers. DBAN will automatically and completely delete the contents of any hard disk that it can detect, which makes it an appropriate utility for bulk or emergency data destruction.]
http://www.dban.org/about

Rickey 01-19-2011 12:54 AM

Hi Koala77,
Most HP computers if they are not to old have a system restore function. To start this, turn the computer off and disconnect any printers or external hard drives. You only need your mouse, keyboard and monitor to do this. Now hit the power button and turn it back on. As soon as you do this, start tapping the F11 key on your keyboard. This will start the built in system recovery. When the screen comes up, you need to click on "Advanced". If Advanced Options is selected, the system will perform a complete reformat and will destroy all user data. On Advanced Options, select the Windows System Restore option and click Next to begin the process. Then just follow the onscreen instructions.

Koala77 01-19-2011 01:06 AM

Thank you for your reply rlj1959.

We have recently moved house, but I didn't want to take the old computer with me on the move.

What I did was remove the hard drive, and I tossed the old computer away.

Thank you everyone for taking the time to reply to this thread.

Lara 01-20-2011 05:14 PM

G'day Koala,
It's good you kept it. As you know I've had major computer problems and now on new computer the last couple of days and I'm going to take my old hard drive out today if I get time and transfer what I need onto my new one. That will save me having to buy or download them all over again. I just got some new device yesterday called an "Easy IDE", which should allow me to do that. xing fingers. lol

After I've done that I'm going to just buy a case for the drive and use it as external storage that I can plug into the laptop. You could do the same.

Hopefully this all works. ;) Will let you know.

Jomar 01-20-2011 08:41 PM

If the new case has room inside you can store the spares in it.
I built my own so I can store my old /extra hard drives right inside.


BUT--If you have a whole new computer...
I guess you'd have to wait until the warranty is expired as opening the case usually voids the warranty.:(


Seagate.com has a disk wizard program that can copy the whole system on the new drive - all workable just as it was on the old drive.

if you have some bugs or viruses this isn't want yo would use though.

Lara 01-21-2011 12:50 AM

Thanks Jo.

New computer for me, but it's my daughter's old one so no warranty left on that. How did you build the case to do that? Do you mean a tower?

I have a tower but I need to get the drive out of that and was just going to buy a $30 case that fits just the hard drive and that just would plug into laptop via usb.

I need to copy some of my files and a couple of programmes across that I haven't got on this setup but because I'm on a pre-paid wireless set up it costs me heaps per megabyte to download programmes off the net.

Otherwise this computer now is working great. I believe that 'easy ide' I mentioned allows me to choose what I want and then I'll wipe it clean and use for portable storage. The case I mean is not the tower, it's only as large as the actual hard drive itself.

Jomar 01-21-2011 01:15 AM

Oh, yes- I meant case as in tower.
:)

Rickey 01-23-2011 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara (Post 737006)
Thanks Jo.

New computer for me, but it's my daughter's old one so no warranty left on that. How did you build the case to do that? Do you mean a tower?

I have a tower but I need to get the drive out of that and was just going to buy a $30 case that fits just the hard drive and that just would plug into laptop via usb.

I need to copy some of my files and a couple of programmes across that I haven't got on this setup but because I'm on a pre-paid wireless set up it costs me heaps per megabyte to download programmes off the net.

Otherwise this computer now is working great. I believe that 'easy ide' I mentioned allows me to choose what I want and then I'll wipe it clean and use for portable storage. The case I mean is not the tower, it's only as large as the actual hard drive itself.

I may be wrong, but I don’t think you can copy actual programs from one windows installation to another. When you install a new program, it makes changes to the system registry and it also puts certain files into the applications folder and other folders in order for the program to work. You will probably have to reinstall the program all together. You could copy the registry key for the program if you can find it and put that in the registry on the other computer but you would have to copy all the other files associated with the program from all the different folders and place them in the same folders on the other computer. This would take a long time to complete and if you miss just one file, the program probably won't work.

Lara 01-25-2011 03:25 AM

Haven't had time to try that device yet, but what you've said makes total sense.

I will attempt to check it out soon.

It makes me a little nervous. :eek:

I shall read up about it on the net before I even plug it in.

thanks!

wkikta 01-26-2011 10:40 AM

An external case for the hard drive with a wire that connects to USB will make the drive usable as an external drive, however 2 Terabyte external drives are now about $100. My choice! Have a 1 and a 2 now. Got them at Tiger Direct, the 2 is an ESATA interface drive, just as fast as internal.

The System Restore will probably not wipe the drive clean, it usually keeps the data intact, just removes programs.

A System Restore Copy program will make an exact copy of the drive which can be used to run the computer just like the original drive.


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