Has any one tried Rebuilder the socks ?
 

Someone on amazon is selling rebuilder socks equivelants pretty cheap , so I've been considering trying them to see if it makes any difference .

I notice the price of Rebuilders socks have come down too , but still lot more than id want to spend.

Heres the link though its only had 1 review.

Im not in the US but have www.myus.com account I will probably get them through as its cheaper.

Has any one else tried these , or other "aftermarket " alternatives ?

cheers , hope your all well

melon

I believe the "socks" from rebuilder were conductive and had wires throughout them... $600.00+ per pair.

These don't look the same IMO.

Not believable IMO

ah, thanks for enlightening there Mrs D.

I guess theres not much point then.. so back to the drawing board .

Will there ever be any new developments I wonder - sigh

p.s. sorry to hear about your cats. Id love one but my landlord wont allow it.

all the best.

m :)

The unit that the socks hook up to is :

Sonic Technology's ElectroMassage System Electro Massage
Electronic Muscle Massager & Personal Toning, Fitness System

For only $169.00
plus the cost of the socks $27.95

So, around $200.00 +/-

Thanks Bob..

I think I will pass for now, at least if i dont try it and i can leave it on the christmas list of desperation items I will need if im SOL ( pardon my french )
In the meantime its back to some of the good ol fashion pain luvin fun.



m

When things like this... Rebuilder and special "socks" come out...if they worked you'd see a stampede to get them.

That has not happened, even with Ebay sales.

If it is too good to be true, beware!

Thats true , though my issues so overlapping sometimes and " odd " i suppose
think theres always that ? factor.

For example I just took some inderal yesterday for the first time , and its really triggered my pn pretty bad , ive had to even resort to my edgar cayce remedyand been pissin and drinking literally non-stop ( without just about all my pn pills ) like a trooper to try to get it too life.

Have you heard of anyone else having these issues with bbs , or is it quite common ?

Its really causing the me to hear that deep grumbly mumur you get when your pns bad , like some motor trying to start :( sigh

m

Isn't a rebuilder just a TENS unit marketed toward PN patients?

the rebuilder is some super expensive device.

a tens machine isnt that expensive. maybe 150. i have a tens machine from years ago working with my back. I have tried to put it on my feet but reall had no idea where to use the pads.

so this sock to use with my existing tens may be interesting........

ReBuilder is a different frequency and wave form
 

The ReBuilder differs from ordinary TENS. If TENS units are applied in PN, they can cause other problems. PN is already a nerve "blockade" of sorts, and in the clinic, TENS may exacerbate PN.

Beware of Garments
 

We use socks in neuropathy clinics around the USA.

We choose only the genuine article,(ReBuilder) as cheaper socks
may be contaminated with heavy metals and byproducts of manufacture.

We also find they stand up to machine, clinic washings, conduct evenly with distal to proximal fabric density and current flow.

Beware of imitations, and use only Medicare Approved garments, under the order or supervision of an experienced clinician.

ok Mr. Rebuilder.......work on getting that price point down

ReBuilder Garment Pricing
 

These prices are set by Medicare. The factory makes ever attempt to keep prices down, and always works to get patients and clinicians what they need.
You can call any time.

So how many washings do you get from those socks before they deteriorate?

I would think Rebuilder would be concerned with the cold lasers out there as competition. Are you implying NDoc, that you use the Rebuilder IN the clinic, or you advise people to buy their own units?

The Rebuilder has been controversial here, with not many advocates over the years.

The Rebuilder control unit resembles an IFc unit.
And the newly revised website July 15, 2011... claims they prevent blood clots in the legs (from sitting for long periods)? Are there studies on THAT?
I would like to know more about that feature.

mrsD, I've referred your technical question regarding the thrombosis prevention to the inventor of the device.

As a clinical group, we have been using the ReBuilder as part of a treatment Protocols in our Neuropathy** Clinics across the country since 2008.

I have no concerns about cold laser whatsoever. It's not about competition, simply about what works best for each of our patients.

Personally, I find the ReBuilder excels when properly utilized under a clinicians supervision. If the patient has a favorable clinical trial, we advise they purchase a home care kit.

With regard to garment washings, the clinic duty cycle is far greater than home care. We have sets last 90 days or more with almost daily usage and machine washings. This is extreme, under normal usage they should last considerably longer.

Our clinics are very happy with the technical and product support from the factory.

I went to the Rebuilder website, and found a graphic that
supposedly explains PN.... nice graphic. But no proof it is accurate.

Then I found some YouTubes, on this subject, that the gentleman giving, says ...."we believe this is how the Rebuilder works... since nothing else explains it".
Also on the ReBuilder site is the claim that the Rebuilder prevents blood clots in the leg.

So what we have is theory only with a fancy graphic. And a long history here over the years, where some people have had less than spectacular results from ReBuilder... and now it is coming around again?
The ReBuilder website was just updated July 15, 2011.

I wonder how the FDA would respond to the claim that ReBuilder prevents a serious common medical problem , blood clots? They require proof of that you know. Why, if this claim were true, people getting joint replacements would be on the ReBuilder in the hospital and not on Lovonex or heparin therapy.
The ReBuilder would be in every nursing home across America!
I wonder if TSA would even let someone take a ReBuilder on a plane as suggested! :rolleyes:

Yes, I can see a chiropractor, suggesting the patient BUY their own unit. That is the goal after all.

If Medicare set the cost in the USA for Americans does that mean they will be cheaper for overseas patients since they don't have Medicare?

Don't count on it! LOL They will get every penny they think they can get.

Lol;) I knew that:p

Hmm... I thought this discussion was just about what gives patients significant help with their PN.

I'll let you discuss website content with the manufacturer if you like.

You do raise a good point, and I accept that.

Keep in mind though the venous and muscle pump activity generated by a DC signal component in the device is what is advocated to reduce the risk of venous thrombosis, and helps explain why vascular patients get relief of their accompanying PN symptoms in many cases.

As clinicians, we only advocate clinical trials first. ReBuilder Purchases are only made upon request by the patient, only dispensed by us if they have proven clinical benefit.

And you'd have to count the thousands of MD usages and prescriptions for the ReBuilder too, and many prescribed by PTs, DNs, DMDs etc. No need to insult only the DCs.

No one else has yet demonstrated better answers as of today to help the misery of PN patients. That's why we use this device among others to help wherever it's effective.

*moderator edit*

About 4 or 5 years ago I purchased the Rebuilder with the guarantee I could return it if it didn't work. I tried it for about a week, and returned it. It actually caused more pain in my feet while I was using it.....thankfully I got my $400.00 back! I personally think it's a lot of hooey!

And NOW it is alot more than $400!

I would like to thank everyone for the contributions to this thread, but I am going to lock it now as it seems the discussion has run its course, and is now bringing in those who appear to be here to advertise the product or their business, which is not allowed as per our guidelines

As always, we suggest members keep themselves well informed to make wise choices.

thanks