Infection after ozone injection.
 

Aloha Bryanna and everyone. I would really appreciate your feedback on my current situation. I am usually very healthy. I eat extremely well, get plenty of sunshine, and rarely get sick.

15 months ago I had a root canal on a bottom back molar, the one in front of the wisdom teeth(I don't have my wisdom teeth). The root canal tooth never felt right after the root canal treatment. It didn't hurt, but it just felt vaguely odd under it...like the body didn't like what had happened. I thought it might be because the crown was not adjusted quite right and so maybe too much impact, and I also suspected it might be because of the bacteria living in the root canal tubules.

I went back to the endo 14 months later, and he took a x-ray, and noticed a dark area...he suspected some infection. I went to a new holistic dentist also and he adjusted the crown a bit and did a panoramic x-ray and saw the same thing....a subtle dark area under the root canal tooth. He said an ozone injection into the jaw may help. I've always been a fan of oxygen therapy so I decided 'why not'. He drilled one of those tiny needles in through my jaw bone near the root of the root canal tooth.

Seconds after the ozone injection there is a burning sensation that shoots through your jaw into places I have never felt burning. I was sore after the injection and within 24hrs my sinuses started acting up. I am 35 and haven't had a sinus problem since grade school. As the next few days went on, the sinus draining became more intense, and my jaw also started to hurt and burn. The burning started to be similar to the burning I felt when the ozone was injected to begin with. My teeth started getting a bit more sensitive too and now I had acute pain under the root canal tooth. I have never had jaw pain in my life.

It appears as if the ozone injection has stimulated a massive infection...it has now been 6 weeks and my sinuses are still doing crazy things...massive mucus and a feeling like intense toxins are draining into the back of my throat.

I decided to have the root canal tooth retreated a week ago with the hope that it might just calm things down, and it only has made things worse...the pain in my jaw is getting worse and now behind the tooth on the top of my jaw it hurts to touch it....it wasn't like that before the re-treatment.

The ozone injection unleashed hell it appears. Have you ever heard of such a thing???

Anyway...thanks for listening. I feel I should probably go to a good oral surgeon and have the tooth taken out and have the extraction site cleaned well. Your insights will be most welcome as this is now keeping me from enjoying my life and my family.

Aloha, Mark

Wow.. I never even heard of that. I hope you are starting to feel better. What kind of sinus issues are you having?
Nicole

Hi Mark,

Oral ozone injections are very controversial, but I have seen cases (those that did not involve infection) where they have helped somewhat. In your case, it sounds like the ozone and/or the pressure from the injection may have actually aggravated the infection in the jawbone that was picked up on the xray as a dark/black area at the root of the tooth. Re-treating the tooth with that second root canal unfortunately did nothing to eliminate the original or the secondary problem because as you mentioned, infection will still remain in the dentin tubules (the microscopic canals inside the tooth).

Your intuition about removing the tooth and having that area of bone surgically debrided may be your best option. However, it is not in your best interest to wait too long because the bacteria can be difficult to remove as it proliferates deeper into the jawbone.

I hope this info is helpful to you.... please keep us posted on the outcome.

Bryanna

Thanks for the advice and info. I plan to get it taken care of right away. I don't want the infection to migrate.

Will a good oral surgeon be sufficient, or should I see someone who specializes in or has extensive knowledge of cavitations? Does the debridement happen as a second visit, and if so when does that take place?

Aloha, Mark

Hi Mark,

It is best to see a dentist who performs alot of oral surgery and one who understands the necessity of thoroughly debriding the jawbone of all visible necrotic tissue. The debridement is done at the same appointment, immediately after the tooth is removed.

It may seem odd, but not all oral surgeons will debride the bone as much as they should. If you know of an oral surgeon that you may be comfortable going to, then speak to him about the debridement before you have him remove the tooth.

You are a well informed dental patient which shows you have been doing thorough research. You are on a wise path... please let us know how things are going.

Bryanna

Mark I've been following your post as I just had an infected root canal tooth removed, jaw bone debrided, and ozone treated. Almost 2 weeks later I'm still having alot of trouble with my nasal and forehead sinus'. Are your symptoms any better?

diana

Hi Mark and Diana, I have received 2 ozone injections so far into my gums/jaw where I had previously had a root canal and a titanium implant (had it removed because it was making me sick). I have suffered with chronic sinusitis since I had the implant placed 5 years ago, the implanted perforated my maxillary sinus. My symptoms were limited to my maxillary sinus prior to ozone injections but now I am feeling horrible in my forehead too. The ozone injections are my only hope to kill off anaerobic infection which my dr suspects is the problem since the root canal/implant.
I was wondering how you are both doing now? I am wondering if there is a period of feeling worse before you feel better? Just wondering if you feel ozone therapy helped you or made you feel worse?
There is a lack of info for this treatment and I was so happy to find this thread but I am hoping there is a happy ending here? Thanks so much.

Hi Fhen, it's been about 5 weeks and i'm having less problems with my sinuses but it's not resolved. Still having pressure/inflamed feeling in nasal and forehead sinuses and sometimes moves onto my scalp.

I don't know if the ozone injection caused any of it. In my case it may be the infection in the tooth spread out when the extraction was performed.

I had another 1/2 dose injection to each side a couple weeks ago and didn't notice any change better or worse. How are you doing now?

diana

Thanks so much for the reply. I had 2 injections, the last one was one week ago. My sinuses have calmed down a bit but I am still having issues. Saw my dr today and he said I have infection of mold and mycoplasma in my sinus, he has me on homeopathic remedy now, no more ozone injections. Hoping for the best.
This has been a nightmare. I am guessing you may already be aware of the link between root canals and cancer, esp breast cancer? My dr told me about it, the infection left behind is very hard to get rid of, that is why he started the ozone injections. Hope you start feeling better

Hi Fhen,

So sorry to hear about your complications with the ozone injections. I was wondering .... did your physician or your dentist do them?

I am curious what you have been told about the correlation between root canaled teeth and breast cancer. Could you share that information here?

Bryanna

Hi Bryanna, Just a little history for you on my case: I had a root canal approx 5-6 years ago. Shortly after I had the root canal tooth extracted and a titanium implant placed. That is when my illness started. It was a gradual onset and I didn't pay attention to symptoms the first year. In Jan 2011 I had the implant extracted and found out it had perforated my maxillary sinus when it was placed. Cone beam ct scan showed the hole in my sinus was healing but my chronic sinusitis persisted.
To answer your question, I have been getting ozone injections from my dr who is MD. He also does acupuncture, homeopathy, etc. I think he calls it integrative medicine. He will use conventional med if there is a benefit but most of his practice is in alternative therapies.
He told me I have a "smoldering infection" from the root canal and implant. To paraphrase him, anytime a foreign body is put into your jaw like that it often brings along bacteria and when it enters your body it turns anaerobic due to the lack of oxygen. Anaerobic infections are almost impossible to kill off because they are so hard to get to. While this infection is smoldering in your body it is producing very powerful toxins, some of which are carcinogenic. I did a quick google search and found a link between root canals and breast cancer. Ozone has been shown to kill anaerobes and that is why he wanted to try it. I felt much worse after the ozone injections so we are holding off for now while we treat the mold and mycoplasma.
From what I gather, the root canal and implant put my immune system a tizzy to say the least and so I keep getting infections that wouldn't make most healthy people sick. I have been under the care of my dr since April 2011 and have been basically putting out fires as they come along, looking forward to regaining my health.
Hoping you are in good health, I haven't read much here yet

Hi Fhen,

When the tooth was extracted, was the implant placed in that site immediately...if not, how long thereafter? When the implant was removed, were there any specimens taken of the surgical site for biopsy and culturing purposes?

At the time of the implant placement, an xray should have been taken to determine the location of the implant in relation to the sinus membrane. I don't know if that was done in your case but if the implant was seen on the xray to have perforated the membrane, then the implant should have been removed immediately. Depending on the size of the perf, it would either be surgically closed over or allowed to heal on it's own. Then after several weeks to a few months, a second surgery could be attempted to place the implant again. If the implant is left in the sinus, infection is imminent and it will be very difficult to eradicate.

One big problem that occurs when a tooth is root canaled is..... the original infection in the tooth becomes even more abundant from the lack of oxygen and blood because the nerves and vessels have been severed during the procedure. The tooth becomes overwhelmed with infection and inflammation which always proliferate through the tooth into the jawbone. The longer the root canaled tooth is present the more deterioration occurs in the jawbone. ANYtime a dental implant is placed in the site of a previously root canaled tooth, the risk of infection and failure are elevated due to the avascular necrosis.

What typically occurs in cases like yours....the bone becomes infected from the root canaled tooth, the implant is placed in infected necrotic bone, and the infection migrates into the sinus cavity. The perforation of the sinus is often a secondary issue to the already compromised jawbone and may have even been open prior to the placement of the implant... just not diagnosed.

I am a huge believer of Integrative medicine and personally feel all medicine and dentistry should be Integrative! Your MD is wise to refer to your condition as a "smoldering infection"... that is right on!! All root canaled teeth are smoldering infections and the mess they leave behind is unmeasurable. He's correct that this type of infection is very difficult to treat. I have to admit that I have never seen ozone injections cure this type of infection, but I have seen it temporarily relieve some symptoms. Has your MD talked to you about aggressive antibiotic therapy at all?

Bryanna

Hi Bryanna,
Sorry for the lapse, I just noticed there was a second page. I am new to websites like this.

Thanks so much for all of the info, I appreciate you taking the time to write all that. It has been approx 2 months since I had ozone injected into my jaw (twice) and although I had quite a bad reaction in my sinus at first (?herxheimer) after about 2 weeks I started feeling much better. I have been in the meantime to see some holistic dentists and they report excellent results with ozone killing off jaw infections from root canal, although they did say sometimes it does not work and debridement is necessary.

I am not sure how long after extraction the implant was placed, it was not right away. It could have been days but I don't think longer than a week or so. Hard to recall as it was 5 years ago. No biopsy was taken, I had no idea what I was getting into but boy did I learn! I am really hoping that the jaw infection is gone. I have been feeling better, still fatigued but have been helped by ozone saunas and insufflation. The ozone is supposed to detox the left over toxins and help boost my immune system.

Do you know anything about a diagnostic machine that can detect cavitations in the jaw? My MD does bioenergetic testing and has been spot on with all of the various problems I have had, but I was wondering what the more conventional approach is?

Thanks so much.

Hi Fhen,

Are you sure the implant was placed within a week after the extraction?? That is way too soon and no wonder you have such a severe infection!!

The machine sometimes used to detect cavitations in the jawbone is called a Cavitat. I am quite familiar with this machine but in all honesty, I am not sold on it's reliability. It is very technician sensitive meaning, you could have it done several times in a row, each time with a different technician and more than likely you will get 5 somewhat different readings. I personally would not rely on this test as a definitive diagnosis.

Conventional dentistry to put it bluntly..... are generally clueless about cavitations. Most general dentists have never diagnosed or treated one. That's not to say that they haven't seen one because they do see them frequently... they just don't deal with them. Biological dentists are more knowledgable about this and some are trained in treating it.

Are you familiar with the IAOMT organization? Their website is IAOMT.org. You may find someone there who could help you.

Keep us posted!
Bryanna

Hello Fhen
I was wondering if you ever found a resolution for your possible jaw infection and sinus issues. I have lots of the same issues, and am currently trying both cavitation surgery and ozone injections. Could you let me know what eventually helped you, if anything?
Thanks so much

After many weird problems, one dentist who extracted my tooth and then did a graft the same day....gave me that Ozone shot after I reported persistent low grade fever. It did not help one bit. My pain worsened....hope it wasn't related, but then again after experiencing some very odd, dangerous and damaging dental situations of late....not much would surprise me. Check, double check, triple check. Assume nothing. I am seeing multiple docs now, for restorative care and second opinions (but the latest trend is to tie up all the docs in the city in one pseudo practice and making it hard to get a second opinion easily). Lately, I have been getting some nice referrals from support groups....people with special needs who believe it or not can least afford to be damaged by medical professionals (like dentists) , but often are the ones who get the most debatable treatment. This might be because some doctors don't want to admit they know little about your special needs and/or they fail to take into consideration other medical issues you might have.

Some thoughts.....seriously consider using an oral surgeon for all oral surgeries and of course if you are having a problem after a dentist has worked on you, get to one FAST!

One caveat......be on the lookout for nerve damage.... A subject often avoided.

Get referrals on all your medical professionals and double check on line for patient referrals/comments. Get second opinions. And if your doctor/dentist refuses to answer your questions or is rude....run like the dickens out the door.

Mark and Bryanna,

I have had cavitation surgery on the two sites upper and lower, where my wisdom teeth were removed. I've also been following up with ozone injections and neural therapy with dental procaine injections. As far as I'm concerned both are a miracle for chronic health problems. I had my surgery at Sanoviv Medical Institute where they have an oral surgeon who specializes in cavitation surgery. This instititute treats a LOT of these cases and they are excellent at finding cavitations.

Bryanna, they also have a cancer program which is really incredible and many breast cancer patients have turned out to have cavitations. They use neural therapy in dental sites identified by the dentists and doctors on x rays of your mouth. They inject with neural therapy (procaine) and take pictures with thermography. The neural therapy injections stimulate heat in the infection of a cavitation and it shows dramatically on a thermogram. Bryanna, a breast cancer patient I was there with told me her thermogram showed the cavitation leading right to her breast cancer.


Mark, I had a lot of headaches after my surgery and inflammation but it died down. I possibly got food in my wounds leaving a small infection that I've been treating with ozone. I think the best therapy is to do both cavitation surgery and ozone. Ozone reaches places that are deeper than the cavitation. I also recommend making your dentist stop injecting the ozone when the burning and pressure start (you don't need 4 cc's to do the job) and doing a course of several more gentle injections using less volume of ozone. It's just as effective to inject 2 cc's of ozone and do a few more injections.

This is a more gentle approach and some people tolerate it better. I got sick the day after my first ozone injection, a die-off type reaction. This isn't uncommon when trying to kill a deep infection. The second injection seemed to push an infection to my throat which has been there fir a week. This is good though, you want it to be out where your immune system has a chance to deal with it properly. In alternative medicine this is called a healing crises. It just means you are pushing it out, but doing more ozone could help finish the job. When you do an ozone injection and don't get a little die-off reaction you are probably finally on top of the infection.

I had a chronic sinus infection before the cavitation surgery and it flared up (after the surgery) after the first ozone injection but then it gargled with warm water mixed with sea salt and it went away. The die off is unpleasant but it's part of the healing process. Don't stop before you're finished. If your body is pushing out toxins, help it until its done. And keep hitting it with ozone until you get ahead. Swish with warm sea salt water a few times a day, it's also great for sinus infections. They sell a "netti Pot" made for irrigating the sinuses with warm sea salt water. You can also add xylitol to kill the bacteria. This may help alleviate symptoms and kill bacteria. All in all, I haven't been this strong, or gad a semi normal immune sytem, or had this much energy in over a decade.

My chronic neck and shoulder problems are GONE, and my chronic headaches are getting better and better. These two therapies are giving me my life back. It hard to imagine dental problems impacting the system do much but it's SO powerful to resolve this. Good luck, I hope this is useful to you!

Bryanna,

Why are the ozone injections so controversial? What are your thoughts on them, if you don't mind sharing. I had an ozone injection after my extraction and I often wondered if that was a good idea or not due to all the issues I have had after this extraction.

Hi Red,

Thanks so much for sharing your dental experience here with us! it is important for people to know that there are alternative methods to explore, however, it is imperative to learn as much as possible about these methods and only allow someone very experienced to perform them. It is also important for the patient to be aware of their post of discomfort following an ozone injection and to report it to their dentist.

I am a little familiar with Sanoviv Medical Institute. One big issue that I have with them is there claim to sterilize a tooth using ozone therapy during a root canal procedure. The ozone may be helpful in <temporarily> reducing bacteria in the large visible canals... but it has zero affect on the microscopic canals. Their claim to be so concerned about the patient's overall health is ironic in this situation when they fail to inform their patients about the toxicity still residing in the tiny canals. They also fail to inform their patients about the toxicity of retaining a non vital tooth in their mouth and how the consequences that can have on the sinus and the brain.... not to mention the rest of the body. So I just want to make that clear that again you need to be mindful and well informed prior to accepting ANY treatment... conventional or alternative.

I am very aware of the connection between breast health (cancer) and oral health. Hopefully sooner than later more literature will be available to the public regarding this issue. Ozone therapy can be helpful with these cancer patients but it is truly just a bandade in those who continue to walk around with root canaled teeth.

I am glad that you are taking this one step at a time and are so aware of your physical being and not hesitant to alter the protocol. I am also glad to hear that you are feeling so well physically!!!!! Let's hope your healing continues to be this positive ;))

Thanks again for sharing... please stick around and share some more!

Bryanna

Hi mommy2,

The controversy for me comes from those that do not use it properly or market it as a one method kills all magic bullet. Ozone is a very strong oxidant. It needs to be measured, diluted and used very carefully and certain preventative protocols need to be followed during the administration of it or the patient could suffer very ill consequences. In the dental application the most damaging areas of concern are the eyes (if it splashes) or the lungs (if inhaled). So care needs to be taken to be sure to not expose those two areas at all.

There is no way to know if your post op issues were at all caused by the ozone injection especially since you had a previous history of those symptoms in the past which you believe were due to the Levaquin. Correct?

Bryanna

Yes, the levaquin caused all my health issues...but, because of that, I'm wondering if it was a good idea to get the ozone...I mean, it doesn't matter now because it's already been done, but no one at Dr. T's office explained any of this to me. If I would have known..I wouldn't have had it done. They were all talking about how wonderful it is, so I just believed them. What, exactly can happen to the eyes and lungs if not administered correctly? And also, if someone does suffer ill effects to ozone...does it go away with time or is it a permanent thing?

Also, what are some of the positives, if any, to the ozone injections? Especially for someone like me, who had it done after an extracted root canaled tooth?

Update and follow up
 

[Just wanted to update everyone on my original post. After my first experience with ozone and talking to two other people who had ozone injections into the jaw, I feel it is extremely dangerous. The obvious result of my ozone injection was an instant and massive sinus infection. As I said, I hadn't had a sinus infection or any sinus issues in 20 years, and the day after my ozone injection my jaw was burning in places I didn't know could hurt, and my sinuses were draining intensely and within days the mucus got heavier and heavier. It took about 6-8 weeks before my sinuses calmed down and they never returned to normal until after I had the tooth removed.

There was some slight discomfort under my root canal tooth before the injection, but it was consistent and mild and had been present for a few months. My guess is that there was a slight infection of some kind that the body had totally in check and the ozone injection shifted the balance to the negative and all hell broke loose. Perhaps the ozone killed a 'friendly' bacteria which then allowed the more toxic organism to run wild, or perhaps the heavy oxidation itself created massive irritation. It's really hard to say but I am not the only one who has had a similar experience.

I haven't talked to a single person whose symptoms improved upon getting the ozone injection into the jaw9quite the contrary) and of course some suggest that the reaction might be part of some 'healing crisis' which is too absurd to go into now, but I can assure you it was no healing crisis of any sort...it was a poisoning of the worst kind.

Ozone injections around a tooth are one thing and are relatively harmless (and worthless), but injecting it into the jaw is a whole other can of worms.

Bryanna,

I want to say thank you for your kindness and wisdom. I applaud you hope you are blessed for the caring and compassion you radiate.


my quick question I hope you may have a moment to respond to is regarding root canals. reading up on these they sound dangerous.

just recently had one and have not even had crown placed. there is a dentist local who after researching Ive discovered does ozone therapy on root canals. I understand ozone is not 100% effective but was considering retreatment.

would prefer this route first as opposed to extraction (front tooth).

if you have a moment would be very interesting in your thoughts. thank you and best wishes for you and yours.