Ce doctor appointment
 

I went to my ce doctor appointment arranged by s.s. The visit lasted maybe 5 minutes. He had me lean forward, backward, lean left, lean right, and walk a straight line. My issue is a back problem that has lasted 12 years. Anyway, I got to see a copy of his report. It said I could walk 8 hrs a day, sit 8 hrs a day, stand 8 hrs a day, crawl, crouch, climb,bend, twist normall. I could lift and carry between 21-50 pounds frepquently.

In my past doctors visits to my doctors, the restrictions were, limited lifting 5-10 lbs, limited carrying 5-10 lbs. no crawling, crouching, climbing, bending. Alternate walking, sitting, standing every 15 - 20 minutes. Plus, frequent breaks needed.

My question is does anyone know how much weight the ce doctor for social security has. My pcp's have seen me probably I would guess a total of over 500 hours in 8 years, and this doc has seen my maybe 5 minutes.
Thanks for any help.

social security doctors
 

russ,i have been collecting ssdi benefits for the better part of almost 16 years now so i know how things work a little as far as this goes...you can go to 20 doctors and have 19 of them tell social security that you are disabled and cannot work.but if the 1 doctor says that you are not that severly disbaled and can work social security will forget about what the other 19 doctors said and they will go with the 1 doctor who said your not disabled.it's a sad fact but it's true.

I agree. I was initialy turned down for SSDI because of the Dr. they sent me to. I complained on my reconsideration appeal that the Dr's exam only lasted 20 mins and it was supposed to be a 3 hr test. ( this was a psycologist). 8 months after filing my appeal, they sent me to a psychiatrist and the exam lasted 3 hrs. 2 months later. I received my Notice of Award. You need to let them know you were'nt satisfied with the way the Dr examined you. It worked for me.

I'm not sure why you had to go to a CE. I thought you could ask to use your own doctors.

C.E Dr!
 

I went to to a C.E Dr appt also,and they did about the same thing to me! but my attorney told me that in the 5 years this Dr had been doing the C.E she had not said but one or two people were disabled! and that the judge looks at what your Dr says and what test you have done! the C.E report are just glanzed at then they look at the real reports! not some 10 min bend this way bend that way report! so i would not worrie about it at All! just focus on keeping your pain under control the best you can, and keep pushing foward! do not give up! if you have not seen a judge! that would be the next step, get an attorney snd have them rquest a herring, thats if you get turned down, witch most people do! one more thing that could help you alot is to have your Dr fill out a disability form, and ask if they could write a short letter that you coukd send to social security, that should help alot! i wish i would have done the same when i was fighting my case! i wish you good luck! and if you have anything else i can try and give my opinion on please let me know! take care, walkerslbje
p.s i spent 5 years fighting my case and made alot of mistakes that i don't want to see anyone else make thsts why im back on this site trying to help people, atleadt lot make the same errors i did and to tell what happend to myself, ! just a little background, i did ein my case and the judge made them pay me back to the last day i worked, so it wss worth the battle!

C.e report info and more!
 

walkerslbje;828735]I went to to a C.E Dr appt also,and they did about the same thing to me! but my attorney told me that in the 5 years this Dr had been doing the C.E she had not said but one or two people were disabled! and that the judge looks at what your Dr says and what test you have done! the C.E report are just glanzed at then they look at the real reports! not some 10 min bend this way bend that way report! so i would not worrie about it at All! just focus on keeping your pain under control the best you can, and keep pushing foward! do not give up! if you have not seen a judge! that would be the next step, get an attorney snd have them rquest a herring, thats if you get turned down, witch most people do! one more thing that could help you alot is to have your Dr fill out a disability form, and ask if they could write a short letter that you coukd send to social security, that should help alot! i wish i would have done the same when i was fighting my case! i wish you good luck! and if you have anything else i can try and give my opinion on please let me know! take care, walkerslbje
p.s i spent 5 years fighting my case and made alot of mistakes that i don't want to see anyone else make thsts why im back on this site trying to help people, atleadt lot make the same errors i did and to tell what happend to myself, ! just a little background, i did ein my case and the judge made them pay me back to the last day i worked, so it wss worth the battle![/QUOTE]

[/QUOTE] Walker, thanks for the info. My case is almost 8 years old, 2 hearing, 2 denials, 2 appeals to the applals council. This will now be my 3rd hearing when they schedule it. I'm looking at april 1 for a possible hearing date. You make me feel better about the CE doctor. My own physicians have repeatedly said I could not do the things that the CE doctor said I could do. Again, thanks for you help

8 years trying to win ssdi benefits
 

Walker, thanks for the info. My case is almost 8 years old, 2 hearing, 2 denials, 2 appeals to the applals council. This will now be my 3rd hearing when they schedule it. I'm looking at april 1 for a possible hearing date. You make me feel better about the CE doctor. My own physicians have repeatedly said I could not do the things that the CE doctor said I could do. Again, thanks for you help[/QUOTE]walker,8 years is a long time trying to win ssdi benefits.most people would have given up at this point.you have a lot of patients and persistance..i hope when april rolls around you can win your benefits.

walker,8 years is a long time trying to win ssdi benefits.most people would have given up at this point.you have a lot of patients and persistance..i hope when april rolls around you can win your benefits.[/QUOTE]

Trying to figure out how my post got under Gilbert's name?? lol. Oh well

Russ, it looks like Gilbert quoted your post and then added his reply but he did not add the QUOTE tags correctly so it did not show in a box with his reply below

I can edit it to fix that for more clarity...just hit thanks here if you would like it edited

Pardon me for just responding and for not knowing what a CE exam is. I was sent by SS to see 2 doctors. One for my hands(which is my physical problem). 10 bilateral hand surgeries. The other, a psychiatrist, for my depression/panic disorders. I was originally denied SS. My attorney appealed through the mail asking for a decision by mail. We received a favorable one, and in the decision it clearly stated that the judge who made the decision stated that he did not find these doctors credible because they did not spend enough time with me and look at the whole picture of my disability and how they comingled with each other. PLUS he said he had and abundance of consistent doctors reports from numerous doctors stating the same complaints, diagnosis and outcomes for patient. Ya never know! Hang in there

Re: Dr. Appt/ce
 

I would tell your PCP what happened. I would also ask him to write a letter explaining your condition. Most doctors who follow you like yours has, is very in tune to what you are experiencing. The letter my Own PCP wrote was the deciding letter when I went before a judge. The more letters you can get to substanciate your medical conditions the better. If you have a neurologist, pain specialist, or and other field of expertise, the judge looks at that too. This one doctor cannot possibly know you and make a final determination in just 20 minutes. Your PCP the one who you have seen the most will probably be the biggest help. Don't give up. I was turned down several times. I was granted my disability in front of a judge. The Social Security doctor I went to, did not give me the best review for my case eithor. Keep copies of all your medical records. I do wish you all the best as you go forward with your case. ginnie

I agree with ginnie here. Sometimes, the problem with having a doctor who knows you so well is that, well, they know you so well they don't need to write anything down! I couldn't tell you how many doctors' records I have read stating, basically, "Return to clinic, status unchanged, refilled meds"....sometimes YEARS worth of just this....and nothing else! And because your PCP knows you, they think well, status unchanged, I know how bad his back is, or how much pain they're in, or whatever....why would I need to write it down?

I know that most of you probably won't believe me (and I truly can only honestly speak for myself and the coworkers I know well) but we would really, really rather have your doctor's opinions rather than send you to a CE. We understand it is a one-time evaluation and often quite quick. We know that it can be a hassle to get to the appointment, especially if you are in a rural or otherwise out-of-the-way area. It is frustrating, and we definitely understand.

Many doctors might not realize what we are looking for when we are requesting records. I would recommend (if you haven't already done so) bringing in the copy of your report for your doctor to review with you. If he or she is so inclined, they can write a letter to the DDS with details about how and why you are disabled. Something to keep in mind - an actual statement, with hows and whys of your disability is far more helpful to your claim than just a statement saying "disabled". This is because there are lots of different standards and requirements for different types of disability (VA, workman's comp, SSD/SSI) so the more specific, the better.

I hope this helps and I wish you the best of luck!!

social security doctors reviews
 

It is my understanding when hearing from others that have gone to see a social security doctor that the doctor is on social security's side when evaluating a patient.i think a person will get a better review by going to their own doctors than a social security doctor.however,i have also learned that sometimes it doesn't make any difference when evaluating a claim..if you go to see 20 doctors and 19 of those doctors say you cannot work and are disabled,but the one doctor says that your not disabled and can work social security will go with the one doctor and forget about the other 19.

Re: true
 

Dear Gilbert, You are right, the Social security doctor is on the side of social security. Don't be afraid of that one review. He doesn't know you and he is not the only thing that judge looks at. I promise you, your PCP's letter and any other professionls letters you have to support your claim will mean more to the judge. I even had to have a psych evaluation to make sure I wasn't crazy. The system does put you through alot, I know how you feel about that. Just remember that the doctors who know your condition the best and write that letter for you, will be more important. Keep going with your case, . It will be OK. Once you get before that judge and all the evidence is there, the judge does listen to you too! I had a representative that also threw in a few questions. There were two reps from SS. dept (their side) and the judge and my rep. I was not afraid, I was relieved and ever so glad to be in that court room. Get all the documention you can. Don't give up. ginnie

The Social Security Administration does not have a "side" in processing your claim. The employees get paid the same amount of money whether you are approved or denied. The office opens and closes every day whether you are paid or denied. There is no incentive to the employees to pay your claim or deny your claim. There can be a little more work to pay a claim than to deny a claim, but paid claims don't have appeals to process so there is really no less work for the employees if you are paid or denied. Whether or not the Social Security trust funds 'run out of money' in your lifetime doesn't factor in to whether anyone in the Social Security Administration wants you approved or denied. It is personal to you. It is not personal to the employees. It is their job. They are paid to apply the law and regulations, not to apply personal bias. Well, perhaps the ALJ's can apply personal bias, one reason so many claims are approved at that level, IMO. Another reason claims are approved by ALJ's is that time has passed and there is both more evidence and a more severe condition.

But, SSA has no side. Employees who have more cases with denials are not promoted faster, not paid bonuses.

Re: at court
 

The two men in the court room with me, represented the social security dept. They were there to make sure there was not some kind of job I could do with the dissablity I had. They were there along with the judge to review all aspects of the case. ginnie