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kvan1917 11-26-2011 08:33 PM

How much longer will I have to wait?
 
Hey everyone, this is my first post here, sorry if it is a little lengthy.

I'll try to get right to the point. Back in April, I was playing a game of pool with my friends. I was taking a tricky shot and one of my friends decided she needed to distract me (don't ask me why, she's crazy). She did so by slamming her pool stick on my right big toe and holding it down there for several seconds; I grabbed her stick after I made the shot.

The strange thing is, it didn't hurt that much when she slammed the stick on my toe. After a few days though, I was feeling my toe and noticed that the left side of it felt really numb. I was certain that it had to do with what my friend did. I have searched for months on information on nerve damage and even saw a podiatrist back in July. He said that I have compression neuopathy and that it would take 6-9 months to heal. It has almost been 9 months and I'm starting to worry that the damage might be permanent. Also, I have started taking tablets of Vitamin B12 after reading about its healing abilities.

My question: Does anyone here have any experience with nerve damage caused by trauma and know how long it usually takes to heal? The thought of not feeling my toe for the rest of my life is starting to scare me.

Any help is greatly appreciated, thank you!

kvan1917 11-30-2011 07:25 PM

Is there anybody out there? :confused:

cyclelops 11-30-2011 08:55 PM

No saying as to whether it will ever heal...nerves are tricky. As for the friend, I would consider 'unfriending' her.

kvan1917 11-30-2011 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cyclelops (Post 828885)
No saying as to whether it will ever heal...nerves are tricky. As for the friend, I would consider 'unfriending' her.

Yes, the more I read about nerve damage, the more pessimistic I become. I have definitely considered unfriending her, it's just difficult since she is dating my best friend at college. If I unfriended her, I would pretty much be exiled by most of my friends.

Can't count the number of times I've wished that I could go back to that day and just grab her damn pool stick to stop her. The worst part is, whenever I bring it up, she completely ignores it and acts like it's no big deal...I'm beginning to suspect she's a sociopath. Sorry to sound whiny, I just don't have many outlets to express my frustration and this is a very emotionally taxing subject.

hopeful 12-01-2011 12:19 PM

Hi Kvan, Welcome to the site. It is so hard to say whether nerve damage from injury can be permanent. I wish I could tell you exactly when or if the numbness will subside, but I can't. Does it cause pain in your toe or numbness? If it is painful there are things you can take for it. Mrs. D would be able to help you with the natural remedies. Look at some of the stickies and see if there is anything there that may be helpful.

As for the friend, not sure I can give any advice on that. Not sure what the circumstances are and don't want to give advice that may not be the correct thing to do.

Good luck with everything. Let us know how you make out.
Hopeful

kvan1917 12-01-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hopeful (Post 829063)
Hi Kvan, Welcome to the site. It is so hard to say whether nerve damage from injury can be permanent. I wish I could tell you exactly when or if the numbness will subside, but I can't. Does it cause pain in your toe or numbness? If it is painful there are things you can take for it. Mrs. D would be able to help you with the natural remedies. Look at some of the stickies and see if there is anything there that may be helpful.

As for the friend, not sure I can give any advice on that. Not sure what the circumstances are and don't want to give advice that may not be the correct thing to do.

Good luck with everything. Let us know how you make out.
Hopeful

Thanks for your reply. The toe is just constantly numb; there is only pain after I walk for a long time or play a sport. I stupidly went for a run one time over the summer and my entire foot was in pain for the next two days. I'm taking 5 tablets of B12 each day, but I just started that a week ago, so it might be too late. Guess I'll get a nerve conduction test over winter break, and maybe some surgery will be in order.

mrsD 12-01-2011 02:12 PM

I have a crushed big toe...the right one. A huge boulder rolled out of a wall we were fixing and smashed it.

It turned black, and I lost the nail. It had 2 hairline fractures in the Xray, and I wore a special shoe for a while with it.

The result is that 1/2 of that toe is now numb mostly. But it does not affect my walking that I can tell. Sometimes it prickles, but mostly it is numb. If I flex it in bed it stabs and hurts. Nothing to be done about it...it was crushed. It may grow back, but it has been at least 5 yrs now. Peripheral nerves are supposed to grow back eventually. The severed ones in my surgical left foot did, but it was about 20yrs for that to happen.
Now it hurts occasionally instead of being numb.(instep where you tie your shoes). I can not wear many types of shoes now that hit that spot.

The feet are very slow to heal, if they do. You might try taping that toe to its neighbor, and see if that helps you walk.

You might soak often in epsom salts, as the magnesium may help the nerve heal. But no guarantees. If it starts to hurt all of a sudden, or tingle, that may be a sign the nerves are reconnecting.

kvan1917 12-01-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 829094)
I have a crushed big toe...the right one. A huge boulder rolled out of a wall we were fixing and smashed it.

It turned black, and I lost the nail. It had 2 hairline fractures in the Xray, and I wore a special shoe for a while with it.

The result is that 1/2 of that toe is now numb mostly. But it does not affect my walking that I can tell. Sometimes it prickles, but mostly it is numb. If I flex it in bed it stabs and hurts. Nothing to be done about it...it was crushed. It may grow back, but it has been at least 5 yrs now. Peripheral nerves are supposed to grow back eventually. The severed ones in my surgical left foot did, but it was about 20yrs for that to happen.
Now it hurts occasionally instead of being numb.(instep where you tie your shoes). I can not wear many types of shoes now that hit that spot.

The feet are very slow to heal, if they do. You might try taping that toe to its neighbor, and see if that helps you walk.

You might soak often in epsom salts, as the magnesium may help the nerve heal. But no guarantees. If it starts to hurt all of a sudden, or tingle, that may be a sign the nerves are reconnecting.

That made me feel a little more optimistic, thank you! :)

I'll be sure to give the epsom salts a shot. I occasionally get tingling feelings in the numb part, but the normal feeling is yet to return. Thanks so much for your help, everyone! I will try to put this in the back of my mind as much as possible now and hope for the best.

tnthomas 12-01-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kvan1917 (Post 828899)
Yes, the more I read about nerve damage, the more pessimistic I become. I have definitely considered unfriending her, it's just difficult since she is dating my best friend at college. If I unfriended her, I would pretty much be exiled by most of my friends.

Can't count the number of times I've wished that I could go back to that day and just grab her damn pool stick to stop her. The worst part is, whenever I bring it up, she completely ignores it and acts like it's no big deal...I'm beginning to suspect she's a sociopath. Sorry to sound whiny, I just don't have many outlets to express my frustration and this is a very emotionally taxing subject.

That would be a real red flag for me; I personally would have to re-evaluate exactly what I would expect out of someone I'd call "friend".

Dr. Smith 12-01-2011 10:16 PM

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whenever I bring it up, she completely ignores it and acts like it's no big deal...
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Originally Posted by tnthomas (Post 829165)
That would be a real red flag for me; I personally would have to re-evaluate exactly what I would expect out of someone I'd call "friend".

I was reading that same phrase and wondering if it weren't indicative of feelings of guilt, but not being there to read the body language, it's really hard to tell how to interpret... :Hum:

Doc

echoes long ago 12-01-2011 10:37 PM

give your toe plenty of time to heal. dont rush into any surgery. surgery could make it worse.

kvan1917 12-01-2011 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Smith (Post 829203)
I was reading that same phrase and wondering if it weren't indicative of feelings of guilt, but not being there to read the body language, it's really hard to tell how to interpret... :Hum:

Doc

Yeah, something tells me she feels guilty but is just too much of a coward to apologize for it. Back in June I had a conversation about it with her via text messages. First, I just asked her if she remembered slamming my toe. Initially, she said "Yes, why?" Then, about a minute later (while I was writing my response) she said, "Actually no, but continue." That odd change of mind made me suspicious that she really did remember, but then later said she didn't in order to avoid responsibility. Either way, I don't think the amount of pain she has caused me has ever registered in her mind. She's definitely lacking in the empathy department.

What I find hilarious--and slightly maddening--about this is that if I had done the same thing to her, she would probably be complaining about it non-stop (I have never brought it up around other friends, only the girl and my parents) and would have most likely filed a lawsuit against me. All this aside, she's graduating from college this May, so I won't have to be around her for much longer, thankfully.

mrsD 12-02-2011 03:30 AM

I agree totally with Cyclelops and others here on this thread... unfriend this non-friend. If you have to work with this person, just withdraw personal sharing, and be as neutral and businesslike as possible.

It took considerable pressure to crush your toe...sustained pressure. To me this reveals a sadistic intent from this person who injured you. Don't give them any more chances to hurt you either physically or emotionally.

BTW... you might look this up: narcissistic personality disorder.
People lacking empathy typically also lack guilt and conscience.
This link may be helpful to understand difficult people, without all the big psychological terminology. Young people tend to retain some narcissistic traits until they mature, say into their early 20's. Past that if self centered behaviors, persist, they may be for life.
http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/
This is the best link I've ever read on the subject, and learning about it now, may save you much pain, in the personal realm and at work.

kvan1917 12-02-2011 01:58 PM

Don't worry, once she graduates in May, I'm going to greatly reduce my interactions with her. I tend to just ignore her nowadays. The only reason I'm still around her at times is that she is friends with most of my friends. She's dating my best friend as well, although he has been rather apathetic and unwilling to talk about what happened; I'm starting to not think of him as a friend either.

Thank you for the link, Mrs. D, I will check that site out later, for sure. Psychology is my major in college, so I'm already somewhat familiar with the traits and behaviors of a narcissist (and the girl in question fits them to a tee). I definitely won't let her get close enough to hurt me again.


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