Back Pay
 

I was approved for SSDI last month and Have 13 months back pay coming sometime. Do they always give the back pay in a lump sum or do they give it payments? The reason I'm asking, I recieved my first monthly payment today and it was about $525 more than it was supposed to be.

:) Well Congratulations! I received my back pay yesterday and it was a lump sum. But I do know people who received it in installments, but they were also going on SSI along with SSD. I am not sure if that had anything to do with it. They may have had to pay back other government agencies as well. I am new to this myself. I do know that with my back pay was my November payment and I won't get my December payment until the end of January, that is how they have mine set up. (3rd wednesday of month).

I am sure someone else with more factual information will jump in here soon and give you some help!!;)

Thanks for that. I don't have any SSI or anything else involved. I tried calling SS but this isn't a good day for that LOL.
I'll appreciate anything anyone knows.

Did you receive your awards letter explaining what your back pay was and when you would be getting it? Mine did and I received exactly what it said on the exact date it said. If you did get your awards letter take a look at it again, where it says :
WHAT WE WILL PAY ABD WHEN
the first line says you will receive XXXXXX around DEC 1st, 2011 (that was my back pay amount.)

second line explains the time span the back pay covers.

third line tells you what your monthly amount will be and that your December payment will come in January (well that is what mine says)

If you did not get your awards letter, you may have to wait until monday to call them and find out, but they should be open until 7pm tonight. Did you collect unemployment benefits or anything like that, that may have to be paid back? (I know I said something of the sort b4) But if there is any $$$ owed to the government, I BELIEVE, not sure, but believe that they can withhold/put a lien on it. (I thought I read that somewhere, but AGAIN, I am not sure)

The person I know received back pay every 6 months (2x) and on the 3rd time received the remaining balance, so maybe the whole process was changed. Sorry if I confused you even more!!

Well after my last response, I was reading some of your threads and it seems you may have accepted some help from the state of Maryland in the form of welfare, so some of that may need to be paid back, I know it does in NY state if it was during the time you will be collecting back pay for. They do not want you/me/anybody collecting government $$ twice for the same time period.

Back pay
 

i believe it does have something to do with rsciving ssi and ssdi, if you check there website i believe that is where i read that! congrats! on your win, and in such a short time! mine took 6a years! lol but my backpay was huge! to bad i had to loose my house in the process! oh well i put the money up so when my credit get better i can buy a new one!

My original award was closed end 16 months back pay in Jan 2011 which covered Sep 2008 to May 2010 (SSI was included in that which was deducted) and no monthly benefit. I filed a reconsideration appeal within 30 days and won in Oct. 2011. My award letter says "We are witholding your Social Security benefits for Sep 2010 through Sep 2011. We may have to reduce these benefits if you received SSI for this period". Which I didn't. It goes on to say "We will pay you any Social Security benefits you are due for this period" For some reason they changed the disabled date from Jun 2010, which would have been the next month following my original award, to Sep 2010. When I called the local office about the change, they said I could appeal but I would be appealing the whole decision, not just the date part, so I figured I better just let it go as is. I hope this makes sense.

what the Heck lol
 

bdh1 i agree, you do not want to have to go back though that B.S again! lol i would just call it good, the judge is the one who decides the date on your backpay! and it is at there descrestion of what that date shall be, my judge said in my award that Soc sec should have awarded me on my first claim, and that he could not understand why they would turn me down, so it worked out very well for me, they had to pay back to my last day at work! but every judge is different and will come up with what they see as fair! congrats on your win, some people just give up after a while even if they cant work, and the sad part? is " that is there money they paid in,, and yet they get so depressed they give up!i like how they call Soc Sec a intitlement program! i get so mad! i paid into this for over 28the years and yet its a ititlement? they are so stupid sometimes. if they mess with soc sec all hell will break loose in this country! if they don't want to pay us, fine just cut me a check for what i have paid in and i will invest it myself! stupid congress! lol take care

Their was NO judge involved in my reconsideration appeal. They just sent it to another state to have their Social Security people their to look at my case. They sent me to a shrink and I won. They just changed the date. No biggy. I'll still get about 12K back pay. I just thank God I didn't have to go through the appeal in front of a ALJ and I have enough to live on. I'm singel and get $975 a month and the state is paying my Medicare premium ($115 a month) and get $200 a month food stamps. I'll be OK.

back pay update
 

I received $5200 back pay today. I called the local SS office and they said it was from SSI. I'm not getting SSI, I'm getting SSDI. I didn't want to argue with the woman on the phone so I just let it go. My back pay from SSDI should be about 12K. I don't know what's going on but I don't want to make waves with the local SS office. Has this ever happened to anyone? By the way, on my SS account on their website says I'm getting SSDI $975 a month and it also says I'm on SSI. I think something is messed up.

I would guess that you have both an SSI and and SSDI claim that were approved and that the SSI paid first. You should have two award letters: one says Supplemental Security Income on the top and the other says Retirement, Suvivor's and Disability Insurance. The RSDI award letter includes a paragraph that your retroactive benefits are being held pending a decision on the SSI. Now that SSI has paid, the amount paid from SSDI will be factored into how much of the $12K will be paid to you because of windfall offset.

If the SSA office is telling you that it is SSI, I would believe it.

Since the cap for SSI benefits is about $675 a month and I'm now getting $975 a month from SSDI, how could both be involved in my back pay or anything else. It goes against everything I've read here and the SSA website. I'm confused.

hello
 

I got my SSDI all at once, and I do have SSD as well. You should be getting a letter by mail, that tells you how they set yours up. I got my check before the letter arrived and I didn't exactly know what was going on either until I got the letter. Glad you qualified. someone may know more than I do about this too. ginnie

The operative word in your post is "now". When SSI is computed, the actual income received is considered. When the windfall offset is computed, the amount of SSDI that SHOULD have been paid is considered. Until the SSDI is PAID, it is not counted as received. You just started receiving SSDI. Since you did not ask for your SSI claim to be withdrawn, it was processed for payment. The amount of SSI that you would not have received had your SSDI benefits been paid on time (decrementing for attorney fees if any) will be subtracted (offset) from your SSDI benefits.

You haven't answered the question about what your award letters state.

Have never received a letter from SSI yet, just my original award letter from SSDI. As I stated before, my back pay was beiing withheld upon checking on SSI payments (whcih I had no idea I would get, until reading your reply, which is starting to make sense). I didn't have a attorney, so that's not a isuue. Thanks for your input.