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alt1268 12-13-2011 02:55 PM

feeling really stressed and depressed
 
Got a letter today from my atty. with information from the other side giving me a list of possible jobs I could do that are sedentary. Of course each one pays a lot less then what I was making.
It also upsets me because 2 of the jobs were the same, 2 of the jobs I have no idea how to do. 1 job wasn't listed. One is part-time. So out of 6 jobs, I applied for one
My husband is upset because this injury has created a boat load of debt and I really feel like **** and I know that its not my fault. but I sure feel like it is.:Sob: Oh! yes I got SSDI but not until after my WC case settles to determine the monthly amount.

Russell 12-13-2011 04:58 PM

I'm so sorry to hear of all your troubles. I guess states are different in that regard. Here if WC finds a less paying job then the one you lost they have to make up the difference. I hope you guys get through this...:hug:

alt1268 12-13-2011 05:09 PM

Thanks Jimbo. The stress of all this sucks and makes my feet hurt and flair. Here I guess they pay you some sort of difference for 5 years if you find a lower paying job. Then your on your own. 2 of the jobs are for pc technicians. The only thing I know is once it stops working throw it away and get a new one.

Russell 12-13-2011 05:22 PM

Ha ha ha
:Thats-Funneh:I had to do that with my Dell a few weeks ago. It had a quick ending. Makes me mad about some stuff I list. I got a Toshiba now.
The job probably is IT where you'd be the support person people call.

alt1268 12-13-2011 05:31 PM

Yeah I would be the person you would call and say sorry about your luck but its junk now. hahaha! why apply for something you know nothing about.

Russell 12-13-2011 05:36 PM

Just being nosy here but what kind do you have?

alt1268 12-13-2011 05:43 PM

same as you did a Dell

Russell 12-13-2011 06:11 PM

Mine had a quick death so after the burial I went shopping.
After some deliberation I got a Toshiba 17" notebook for the features.
I had a Dell 17" notebook that lasted a little over 4 years.
I like this one a lot more...

alt1268 12-13-2011 06:15 PM

This one is a mini inspiron, I;ve had about 2 years now, well see how long she lasts.

catra121 12-13-2011 06:48 PM

Oh...I'm so sorry. They should have to pay the difference between the two jobs...which is better than nothing even if it's only for a short time...and also pay for retraining if you need that too. Not saying they will...this is work comp we're talking about...but at least here in IL that's how the laws read. But if I were you I'd apply for them all...you know they won't hire you if you are unqualified and then, if you can get that in writing or even just from a phone call, that will be one more piece of evidence in your favor showing that these are jobs you CAN'T do because you are not qualified. Does that make sense?

It just sucks because I know what it's like to be sitting there, wanting more than anything for your life to just get back to normal, and to have people who just don't understand tell you what you SHOULD be able to do. They clearly do not understand just what sort of hell this thing is. It's not just about having a job where you sit...it's about being able to function well enough to DO the job, get TO the job, get ready FOR the job, and all those other little things. If there were a fire or emergency at your job, would you be able to get yourself to safety? Are you reliable enough (from a health perspective) to be able to get yourself to work every single day that you are schedule? There are just so many things that go into it that you take for granted when you are healthy.

I know...preaching to the choir...but just wanted to let you know that I totally get it and am sorry for what you have to deal with.

Today must be the day for hearing from attorneys because I heard from mine today about my case. I also heard from another attorney and I have to give a deposition next week for ANOTHER employee's work accident. Good times.

Also funny was that my employer's attorney said he cannot understand why I won't just "resign" and take more money in a settlement. Umm...what is so hard to understand about that? I want my life back to normal...job included...why exactly WOULD I want to just give it up? I'm hoping that in a few weeks I will be back to work...THEY are the ones that don't want me back. Sorry...but I like my job...so as long as I can get myself back there I don't really CARE whether they want me back or not...if I can do the job then they have no choice. I know they'll try to make me miserable...but I don't really care about that either. Once you've had to live through the HELL that is life with RSD the other stuff just doesn't really phase you anymore.

alt1268 12-13-2011 08:22 PM

Catra,
I totally understand, my job let me go stating they could not find a modified position for me, after working a modified position for a year and a half. The only change was I started on my rollabout. My atty told me not to resign, so I don't know why yours tells you the opposite.
I'm not sure about applying when I don't meet there needs, but my friend told me the same thing so tommorrow I will when I don't feel like such a looser. :(
Hopefully tommorrow will be a better day. But boy if the stress hasn't caused alot of pain.

catra121 12-13-2011 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by alt1268 (Post 832119)
Catra,
I totally understand, my job let me go stating they could not find a modified position for me, after working a modified position for a year and a half. The only change was I started on my rollabout. My atty told me not to resign, so I don't know why yours tells you the opposite.
I'm not sure about applying when I don't meet there needs, but my friend told me the same thing so tommorrow I will when I don't feel like such a looser. :(
Hopefully tommorrow will be a better day. But boy if the stress hasn't caused alot of pain.

It's not MY attorney telling me to resign (though he mentioned I could get more money if I did)...it's THEIR attorney that is pushing it. And I mean pushing it HARD...but I've made it clear that it is not an option period.

As far as returning to work...my employer will not allow me to have a modified position. So when I go back it will be to do my regular job and I will only be asking for minor accomodations for my disability (be able to wear gym shoes, gloves, scarf, use walker, no longer than 9 hour shift, and no ladders). That will be tough...REALLY tough...but I am very stubborn and intent on doing it.

But don't get so down on yourself...you are not a loser. You have the best intentions and I can totally understand where you are coming from not wanting to apply to places you know you aren't qualified to work at. You don't want to waste your time or their's...but unfortunately the way work comp is they will use your good intentions against you. In the appeal decision in my case (which we are appealing) the judges reduced the award because they said my pain wasn't as bad as I said because I went back to work full duty without restrictions. All I wanted was to get back to work and not cause problems...and somehow that equals me being a liar...nice. So it's not that you are a loser...it's more that you are too good of a person and they can and WILL use that against you.

Sometimes you just need someone on the outside to give you advice about these things and make you see it differently. You guys on here always are always a great sounding board for me. I get so caught up in things and how stressed I am and the emotional side of things that I can't always see the whole picture. My dad is also someone I trust to help me find my calm in stressful situations. He has dealt with all these things from the HR side of things with his employer and has dealt with many lawsuits (not work comp...other stuff) and he helps me see the business side of things.

Here's hoping that tomorrow is a much better day for you. On the bright side of things...maybe one of these jobs will work out for you. I know how upsetting it is to not be able to do the job you loved...but just being able to get back a small sense of "normal" would probably feel great. Some employers...believe it or not...are not evil. Maybe you'll luck out. :)

JimsGirl 12-13-2011 11:45 PM

My employer waits until you are "permanent and stationary" to offer you 1) reclassify (new job), 2) resign, 3) retire. If you take retire you get a medical retirement with ins. After 18 months I'm not permant and stationary, I have no idea which I would choose when the time comes but it'll definately be between retire and reclassify, NOT resign!

Good luck, a former coworker showed me her reclassify list and they were a bunch of jobs she couldn't do either.

catra121 12-14-2011 12:22 AM

Modified jobs are such a joke. Well...not the jobs themselves per se but the way companies use or come up with these jobs. My employer handed me a list at one point of 7 things that they felt fell within my work restrictions (this was way back after I was first injured before the RSD diagnosis) and there was one I thought I wouldn't be able to do but the rest were fine. They said, well that's the one we want you to do, and then sent me home saying I refused to do the work they offered me. I have never done that to an associate as a manager but apparently that's how the company handles these sorts of things. If that's what they consider "acting with integrity" then I guess I am just the rare person who has a higher standard for the word "integrity."

Despite all this though...I am really excited at the idea of returning to work. I miss working...hate staying at home and not being able to do anything. When I was able to return to work for almost a full year (before the RSD got worse)...even though working made the pain worse I was able to cope with it better at work because the work itself was such a great distraction. I wasn't consumed with thoughts about the pain constantly even though I was IN pain constantly...there were other thoughts and things that I had to do that distracted me while I was at work. And just the fact that I felt more normal...oh how we take that for granted when we have our health. I hope to get that feeling back once I return to work. I know I have limitations but I do not want to let this stupid thing beat me...I'm 28 years old and I am just not ready to give up on my life yet...and working is a part of that life. So I really, really hope that I meet my goal of going back in January. I am SO ready (mentally) to go back and have been for a while. Just need my body to catch up and then I'll be good to go.

LIT LOVE 12-14-2011 02:59 AM

If you start working with one year of when you claim onset of a disability, for SSDI, you jeopardize your award (even retroactively.) I'm not sure if this applies in your case, but it is a major risk...

If WC does not offer retraining in your state, what about utilizing the Ticket to Work program through SS? (After 12 months post onset...) There are jobs available to you that will provide you with special accommodations not available to the general population. You'll likely be tested through your state Voc Rehab center. They'll send you to their own doctors if needed, to determine what you're realistically capable of.

If you qualified for SSDI, that should mean your disability is so severe it precludes you from work where you'd make more than $1000 per month. Your doc/s must have been supportive of that... Did your doc/s fill out an RFC for you?

WC will use anything from your SS case that's to their advantage against you. Likewise, you should be able to use the fact that SS has determined that you're unable to work above the SGA level, in your favor.

AintSoBad 12-14-2011 04:02 AM

Alt,
my prayers and best wishes that all goes well for you!
This all can be so very draining.
All the best to you!

pete

asb

alt1268 12-14-2011 05:53 AM

My ssdi is on hold pending wc settlement. That way they can determine my monthly amount and retroactive to Jan. 2011. My doc. says I can work from home as long as it is not stressfull, and I can elevate my leg, and not much thought process. (lol medication slow).
They found 4 jobs outside the home based on wc doc. modification. 2 inside the home. Which is a pc technician.
I appreciate everyones input to this. It really does open your eyes when others are looking at it for you.

Russell 12-14-2011 11:51 AM

How are things going today Alt? I can see that this can be very trying on the brain and I hope for the best for you...:hug:

LIT LOVE 12-14-2011 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alt1268 (Post 832234)
My ssdi is on hold pending wc settlement. That way they can determine my monthly amount and retroactive to Jan. 2011. My doc. says I can work from home as long as it is not stressfull, and I can elevate my leg, and not much thought process. (lol medication slow).
They found 4 jobs outside the home based on wc doc. modification. 2 inside the home. Which is a pc technician.
I appreciate everyones input to this. It really does open your eyes when others are looking at it for you.

I would wait until the full 365 days has lapsed before engaging in FT work if you're counting on the SS backpay... If they were to reverse your Fully Favorable decision, you would also lose out on the Ticket to Work resources. You're so close anyway.

Are you receiving TTD currently?

Did SS ever run the formula if you receive max WC benefits will you receive any SSDI? While there's often an offset, usually you still receive something. Did SS put this in writing btw? That they're waiting till you settle WC? It is essentially forcing your hand to wrap your case up.

alt1268 12-14-2011 12:59 PM

I requested a letter on monday from ssdi that I was approved but they were waiting for wc to settle before determining my amount.
I am in no shape ready to return to work, esp. in the middle of winter which is my worst months. I get max benefits right now from wc. what they are offering as tpd is way below what I was making when I worked.
I don't know if ssdi ran any formula, I haven't heard a word except me asking for a letter.
Today is better Jimbo, thanks. I did apply to the jobs I could do on line. One is in person and my husband is working and I have given up driving under the influence. lol I don't feel comfortable with my pain patchs. My reaction is much slower then usual.

LIT LOVE 12-14-2011 05:25 PM

Every state's WC system is different, but in CA, TTD is much higher than even if I were to be rated out at 100% (which is darn near impossible.)

If you have been receiving TTD, SS should run the formula and pay you until that changes. You'll need to have WC mail them a report of all payments made to you. When you settle with WC, SS will rerun the formula.

I have an active WC case, currently receive TTD, and SSDI as well. It took an insane amount of time to get all my backpay and children's benefits, and the SS monthly checks took 6 months to start after approval, due to the WC complication, but I've never heard SS claim they'll force you to wait until after you settle with WC. What if it takes you 10 years to settle with WC? Unless you're in a state that has a limited period of TTD, there is no sure way to predict when you'll close your WC case. There was a woman on the WC forum recently who just settled her WC case after 20 years.

If your doc claims you're still TTD, you may be able to get new training during this period. (Check with your attorney.) If you have any desire to complete a college degree, this would be the ideal time to pursue it, even if you can only manage going PT. The more education you have, the more money you can command per hour. You might realistically only ever be able to work a few hours per day. Or you may go into full remission... It's best to plan for the worst case scenario.

Since you have a background in sales management, I'd check out business to business sales jobs that have a national database, so that most of your correspondence would be by phone. This would keep you off of your bad limb, but you could work in an office and have the companionship of your coworkers. I'm not sure how much of a factor environment contributes to your escalating pain levels, but if this is an issue, make sure your doc has addressed it in your work restrictions. If you rarely leave your home, the vibrations, noise, cold, etc.--might be something you haven't factored.

alt1268 12-14-2011 06:01 PM

Lit Love,
Im not in sales, I am a registered nurse. I know all my wc comp. payment info was sent to ssdi, I think because there is a hearing scheduled for next month is why they are waiting. not sure. I have been on ttd since last January at the max. allowed by state. You are right though as far as education. You have given me some really good insist into this crap. We will see.
Thanks
Quote:

Originally Posted by LIT LOVE (Post 832393)
Every state's WC system is different, but in CA, TTD is much higher than even if I were to be rated out at 100% (which is darn near impossible.)

If you have been receiving TTD, SS should run the formula and pay you until that changes. You'll need to have WC mail them a report of all payments made to you. When you settle with WC, SS will rerun the formula.

I have an active WC case, currently receive TTD, and SSDI as well. It took an insane amount of time to get all my backpay and children's benefits, and the SS monthly checks took 6 months to start after approval, due to the WC complication, but I've never heard SS claim they'll force you to wait until after you settle with WC. What if it takes you 10 years to settle with WC? Unless you're in a state that has a limited period of TTD, there is no sure way to predict when you'll close your WC case. There was a woman on the WC forum recently who just settled her WC case after 20 years.

If your doc claims you're still TTD, you may be able to get new training during this period. (Check with your attorney.) If you have any desire to complete a college degree, this would be the ideal time to pursue it, even if you can only manage going PT. The more education you have, the more money you can command per hour. You might realistically only ever be able to work a few hours per day. Or you may go into full remission... It's best to plan for the worst case scenario.

Since you have a background in sales management, I'd check out business to business sales jobs that have a national database, so that most of your correspondence would be by phone. This would keep you off of your bad limb, but you could work in an office and have the companionship of your coworkers. I'm not sure how much of a factor environment contributes to your escalating pain levels, but if this is an issue, make sure your doc has addressed it in your work restrictions. If you rarely leave your home, the vibrations, noise, cold, etc.--might be something you haven't factored.


LIT LOVE 12-14-2011 10:41 PM

Sorry Alt, I was confusing your work history with Catra. ;)

LIT LOVE 12-14-2011 10:46 PM

Have you ever considered teaching? It would be much easier on you physically. The pay at even the community college level can be quite good.

alt1268 12-15-2011 08:39 AM

Yes, I recently enrolled in school for my BSN, still trying to figure out how to pay for it without taking loans, then on to my MSN if my grades are good enough. I am applying to vocational rehab for assistance with tuition. Then I can teach from home.


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