3 anxiety attacks in 2 days, 1 close to panic
 

hi

i've had 3 anxiety attacks in 2 days requiring lorazepam. the one this evening was closer to a panic attack - i felt like i couldn't get out of it that it was going to last forever etc etc etc.... :(:eek::Bawling:

my mom says my Zoloft causes more anxiety. could be, but...

i say it's primarily the NEWS.

(holiday pressures don't help, but i think it's mostly the news.)

recently i've had over-exposure to "heavy" news regarding the economic upheavals in europe. my folks watch in this room and i have nowhere to go. previously we had another tv, they did things different, and one way or another i avoided it. also they didn't watch it as avidly when there wasn't this huge crisis ongoing.

this evening, after my 2nd anxiety/panic attack, i told my mother, flat out:

"i cannot watch news. any news. none. i cannot take it. i never tolerated it well, but now i just can't."

she said they will figure it out so they watch in their room now. i said there are other anxiety triggers but that was a big one and it was all i could think of for now. she said ok.

i've started feeling generally anxious all the time, so i'm going to raise the nightly dosage of my long acting benzo. hopefully that will help me overall and i might be less sensitive.

~ waves ~

Hi waves
 

I am sorry you are having anxiety attacks. I truely understand some of it. Even without emotional issues, the world is a mess. Listening to the news is disturbing. This little blue planet has enough troubles going on to make anyone a bit scared. I notice how upset I get sometimes watching what is on our news stations. Just for your own heart, don't watch for awhile. Just give it a break, and try not to think about the scarry stuff. You have friends here to support you. I care about you too. Listen to something soothing that you like to hear, or dive into a book to escape. I am here any time you need to talk. There is good just coming back here to be with us. ginnie:hug::grouphug::circlelove:

I am sorry that you have been having such anxiety. I am glad that you finally were able to tell your parents that you can't watch the news. What a relief that must have been.
sorry you are going thru this.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Gosh Waves that is a rough day, sorry to be affecting you like that. I know I can not take a few meds they induce anxiety, even chest pains or racing. The one is Compazine, the other is anything for a migraine.
It is a terrible feeling to experiance and hope it goes away soon.
di :hug:

Ginnie,

i am a semi-guest, it isn't totally up to me. i do not have my own room, i live in the living room.

i asked for what i needed. i hope she remembers and they will be accomodating.

earplugs aren't always sufficient and i don't always want to listen to music-over-earplugs right then. how would a book help when i can still hear the stupid television.

i suggested to mom that i go in their (empty) room, while they are watching in here. that seemed less disruptive to me. i could play/sing in there, or just wait, or read, or watch something else on their tv, and she could go back and forth to the kitchen. but she said NO, that they would go in there. whatever.

i have to go with whatever they say.

i do not have the option of moving out.

~ waves ~

Thanks all of you, for your supportive words, and compassion. :circlelove:

Bizi...

yes it has been a long time coming... i have hinted... and hinted hard. but i never said it flat out point blank like that. this time though she had just seen me go through a panic attack where i went and clung to her for dear life bawling and shaking (i was afraid to be alone - i wanted to say make it stop but i couldn't talk intelligibly). soon after i settled down enough is when i said it. and i think maybe at that point she had her ears more open than usual. :o:hug:

my dad wants non-drug solutions. he said he saw some signs for nearby yoga classes and asked if i'd be interested. i said yes depending where they were etc. he said he will try to get information for me. that is probably one of the most helpful things my dad could do, in terms of contributing to my therapy. :) i hope he finds something. i don't get around enough to find things. i told him tai chi also. but i think yoga would be better (closed-room).

~ waves ~

Di ... did you mean triptans?
 

DiMarie...

thansk for the kind words. this week has been a blowout between migraines and now this.

so you think... maybe... it could be to do with the Zoloft?

i've taken it lots before... much higher doses. but then again these past 2 years i've had different sx from it. so perhaps it is worth questioning.

by "anything for a migraine" ... do you mean triptans - like Imitrex or Zomig or Maxalt?

triptans are serotonergic agents, as is Zoloft. they act in totally different ways, but they all increase serotonin levels in the brain.

Generally Zoloft helps reduce anxiety, but it can induce it. i wasn't feeling a high anxious level a while back, and i've been on it for months now, so maybe it isn't that. however when i see him i will bring it up. maybe it is multiple factors.

also thanks for the heads up on the triptans (if that is what you meant???) because at some point, i did want to try and see if i can try them ... with the migraines more frequent now, NSAIDs are going to kill my GI tract eventually. :heartthrob:

~ waves ~

Waves, :hug: :hug: :hug:

They can move the tv (or as you suggested, move you to another room).

They can handle this. It is not a big sacrifice for them to move the tv to another room to accommodate your need not to hear news or whatever garbage they turn on. It might feel like a big deal to you because you are dealing with panic and anxiety.

This sounds awful for me to say it but I am glad in a way that your mother got to witness /experience your panic attack. There is no way to describe panic attacks to even very sympathetic listeners. Now that the attack has freaked her out a little I can hope for you that you can see changes.

I think it is wonderful that your father is going to check out yoga and Tai Chi for you. I stayed away from Tai Chi because it looks harder to me because of the standing poses and the greater emphasis on mental focus. Yoga works better for me because I don't have to pay attention as much as I would doing Tai Chi. .. .not trying to get off topic here . .. . perhaps the fact that Tai Chi would be such a challenge for me, means that I should work on that instead of yoga.
Anyway, your father can be helpful to you and I find that wonderful.

Please please be ok.
Stay safe. If it helps to post, give us updates.

M

This sounds so awful dear waves, I am sorry.
((((HUGS))))
bizi

rambling on tvs, rooms, and when is anxiety actually panic
 

thanks Mari

they wouldn't even have to move any tv - there is a tv in their room, and 2 in here. 1 in here is still KO because it doubles as the computer monitor and my dad removed the decoder coz he said it made the computer crash. (it has now, as predicted by ME, started crashing again, sans decoder! HA!) we have only 2 rooms though. theirs, and the living room. this is not a big place. :o

i figure if dad has a game on then he needs his room because he can only get the game on that tv. but for news, if they want to sit and watch together in the living room, i could go in their room. i thought they preferred to be in here, or why else have they been doing it?
:confused: well... whatever.

all i really care about is having enough doors between me and the news-tv that i cannot hear it. i am willing to use earplugs in addition but they won't block the sound in the same room.

i am still feeling sort of wobbly but i really can't take any more stuff. i didn't take extra meds tonight because of how much lorazepam i'd taken - a total of 7.5 mg within 24 hours. so i will bump the other benzo tomorrow night after the lorazepam level drops off a good bit.

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i have only had one - maybe two - panic attacks before. i say maybe 2 because the second i thought of as protracted anxiety (2 days), but it was so intense throughout and drove a paranoid state that now i wonder, if the term might not apply. no matter. whatever it was was horrible.

i really feel for ppl with panic disorder who have lots of these things and fear they are having a heart attack or something. i feel lucky that i recognize anxiety, but on occasion i guess my mind spins out and plays other tricks on me... i've felt i couldn't escape a hostile place, or (this time) that feelings of terror would never stop, or that someone was out to hurt/kill me (the 2 day episode). only in retrospect do i see the loss of lucidity that suggests "panic attack" as a more appropriate term rather than "acute anxiety."

thanks for listening.

i want to see my pdoc/tdoc desperately!!!! :o
we have an appointment wednesday. i hope that nothing happens that we have to cancel this one, too or then it will skip to January!!! :eek::o:(

:grouphug:

~ waves ~

thanks Bizi.

i should go to sleep but i feel really uptight. and i've been going to sleep late, what i can i say. :o :hug::hug::hug:

~ waves ~

p.s. reply to Mari + some rambling got hit with the "last post curse," on previous page.

Hi Waves I soooo!!!! understand what you are saying. The News,anxiety,and panic attacks. I hope that you feel better soon. This time of the year sometimes causes it for some reason. BF:hug::hug::hug:

Waves, :circlelove:

How do you feel? I have not had a panic attack. I imagine it to be exhausting and that a person might not feel centered for a long while afterwards.

Yes. A door between you and the news along with ear plugs will work I hope.
It's possible that the cessation of the news will help you feel much better in just a few days.

I am a little concerned about your level of Zoloft because after years of their being good for me, I had to give up first Xanax and then Wellbutrin. These meds are not designed or tested for long use over decades.
Maybe your level of Zoloft is fine. I do hope you get a chance to talk to the pdoc about it.

You are strong.
I am happy that the tv situation is going to change for your needs.

M

Thanks Steve.

i feel incredibly fragile today. like i am made of glass... vulnerable to being dropped/shattered. not real anxious (only mildly), but like if i try to do anything i am going to disintegrate or something. i might need to do something small, just to prove to myself, it is not true. maybe that would help.

then i might watch Poirot (nice, safe, clean whodunit, based on Agatha Christie mysteries), if i can concentrate on it. my concentration has been off as of last night. i couldn't even concentrate on stupid games.

My father cooked me lunch. he would have made it for himself but he hates to eat alone. and it was a dish i enjoy. so it was very nice.

i hope you are feeling better also. the holiday stuff is putting pressure on me, but also the fact i was supposed to be ready for a class in January. and i'm just so not. i am disappointed in myself, and afraid of being out of work a long time again, and that i will end up destitute and homeless.

i read the Bible passages you indicated to me. they were helpful in part... i will explain the "in part"... separately, another time. anyway, thank you, again, for that too. :hug::hug::hug:

~ waves ~

is there anyway you could escape through sleep. you have been going through such a very rough time and it is rough just living in the apartment so you have no peace. what exactly are you planning on doing in january? Is it making you more anxious or is it giving you a little ray of hope. You need a little ray of hope. something to cling to now. you sound as if you are just suffering so much and it is unbearable. I haven't written because i was afraid i couldn't write anything positive. Now at least i hope you can find a little ray of hope. maybe even the yoga can do something. the holidays always intensify everything. last night i was trying to make peace with death. no luck.
love you
bobby

Dear Bobby

knowing i am "supposed" to make the class puts pressure on me, and the date getting closer and closer has increased my anxiety, along with the other things - the news/political/economic situation/holiday mayhem. at this point i have to write off the class. :( i told my parents about it last night and nearly ended up in another meltdown.

my parents make comments if i sleep too much especially if during the day. i can't get across to them to leave me be on that. my mom picks on things like me eating too much cheese. funny how these attacks happened after a few days that i got cheese-phobic (so didn't eat any) after the big argument with her. i think my cheese cravings are nutrient based. i don't eat it with bread. i have trouble with mag citrate because of the residual acidity of the solution. cheese/milk have lots of magnesium in correct proportion with calcium. i also try to eat lots of deep greens (chlorophyll has magnesium). i may need to integrate some zinc because i am not using the pills that have it any more.

sleep is no escape anyway. i go to sleep knowing i will wake up to more of the same. often i dream about moving and not being able to get all my stuff out in time etc etc... i mostly dream about moving between countries, so it's really complicated too.

it's ok to post if you want even if you don't have anything positive to say. it's ok not to post if you don't feel up to it also. don't worry. and your presence doesn't escape me with your "thanks" on the posts. making peace with death... not easy. so many aspects to that. sigh. often i wish i would die in my sleep but i feel guilty just for wishing that.

i feel bad about the holidays because i don't have the energy to celebrate it. i wanted to get a couple bottles of rose wine but i mentioned it to my parents and they picked them up instead. i wish i had not said anything now. it was one of the few things i could have done, and now i can't even do that.

love

~ waves ~

try to catch yourself when you start beating yourself up if you can. i am sorry you can't use sleep as an escape. it sounds like another source of anxiety. i had a bizarre idea and don't know if it would help. go out and buy a tiny plant and start nurturing it. focus just on the plant and nothing else and pour your love into the plant. make sure the plant is a blossoming plant. even violets.
i wonder if some kind of transformation could happen.
is that a wacho idea? where can you find that ray of hope?
love
bobby

The plant idea is a good one. You used to have one I remember.
Yes the yoga class would be good for you. Was the class that you referred to about education course work? YOu are in such a fragile state of mind, this does sound....can't even put a word to it.
sounds awful.
Be careful with yourself. Don't push yourself too hard.
Maybe you can get out side and take deep breaths, are you guys still airing out the apartment?
sending some calming thoughts your way.
((((HUGS))))
bizi

yes. but i am wondering, what, in my post made you think i was beating myself up?

my mother beats me up about eating too much cheese. not me.
my mother/father teases me about sleeping in the daytime. not me. i don't care when i sleep and i prefer sleeping in the daytime. i hate being hassled about it. i feel a bit badly because of being in their living room but not too badly because it's not like they tiptoe around me too much either... :o

was it the wine? that i can't buy them the wine as a present??? that wasn't my fault!!! i didn't want them to get it!!! i am disappointed and upset!!! that is not beating myself up.

now, if it was something else, i would like to know, what.

sorry, but this is a really big trigger for me now, even though it has nothing to do with you.

someone beat the crap out of me ... about what? about beating myself up! when i wasn't! and even after i told them i was not, they turned deaf ears to it, and insisted. like my denying it was of no consequence, their "judgement" was trump or something.... UGH. but even that wasn't enough, they proceeded to twist the thing around to make like i was using their words to do "beat myself up" and it was ALL very very nasty.

this wasn't too long ago, so still now when anyone starts on the "you are beating yourself up" it brings back all that twisted crap, and the confabulations that went before the incident.

we have always watched over each other here in that way, and say that to each other sometimes, reciprocally. except now, i've gone over the top hypersensitive about it. :( i suppose i'll recover but i haven't yet. :o

anyway, if you spotted something specific, please tell me what it was. i trust you. i would like the chance to see it if i didn't spot it, at least determine for myself if i was truly beating myself up or not. one thing i can think of now, is the class... i did beat myself up a lot as the deadline approached and i felt i couldn't make it. i have to let it go now coz i won't make it. i don't feel relieved yet though. almost like i am clinging to the hope of a miracle. (or mania??? :eek::p:D:rolleyes::Noooo:)

actually that is not bizarre at all. i have been thinking of getting myself another african violet. :) the last two died not too far apart from each other and i mourned them so long, i just didn't want another one. sometimes they are ill when you buy them (you don't know if it's the roots) and they don't last... i couldn't handle one dying on me. but i will take the chance now. thanks for reminding me.
it is not wacko at all. thank you.

love you too.

~ waves ~ sorry for the mid-post rant

Dear Bizi

i don't like to leave the house.

We air out the apartment every day. the heating sometimes bothers me so since it is not freezing cold yet during the day i sometimes leave the windows open and a vent on for an hour or so. changes the air out really well. sometimes i do it more than once.

i still have a plant, my Zamioculcas. but i think she is dying slowly. my mom says it is a natural cycle and that they don't live forever. i guess i always thought the plants that don't die every year (annuals) or 2 could live forever? sigh. i think it is because of its conditions.... i can't provide good enough lighting for it in this apartment. also it's pot has got too small and mom blows her top when i talk about another transplant... i don't know what is worse, silently watching the plant suffer or trying again to get mom to help me transplant (i've tried and failed a few times already). sigh. the house is *FILLED* with her plants and she keeps buying more. i need to transplant the only one i have, which she gave me, and she freaks out.

i hope my dad really does come through with a local yoga class.

~ waves ~

just my thought...that yes you sounded like you were disappointed about the class that you would not be able to attend....maybe that is what bobby thought...i don't know...
love to you
bizi
p.s. We are not her..........

i know Bizi. you guys listen to me and do not judge me.

but it's like that phrase sets me off now. hopefully it will just wear off again. that's partly why i asked if Bobby saw something specific, what it was. so i could judge for myself. that part was just dialog. but i felt the need to say that i am overly sensitive to this right now.

what might help me overcome this is if folks specify what it is you see me being hard on myself about. then i can say, ahh, yes, that is true, or oh, oh, no my feelings are different. whether i post about it or not. but if i am not seeing things, it will be more helpful anyway, if someone points them out for me to at least evaluate. i know you guys do not judge. when i am in a better place perhaps the general statement will be ok again. i will prolly still ask if confused.

we always did this in the past. but now it's like i have a sunburn, and having someone pat me on the back when i have a sunburn. the patting person didn't burn me, but the act of patting still hurts because it "activates" the burning sensation.

i will heal. please be patient with me and my sunburn? :o:(:rolleyes:

i really was beating myself up about the class... that was the source of pressure. not about the wine. i feel disappointed about that.

thanks Bizi for all your support :hug::hug::hug:

~ waves ~

i thought because of the wine. i am sorry.
love
bobby

so sorry that you are hurting
 

Waves, :heartthrob: :heartthrob: :heartthrob:

I heard lots of concern / disappointment about the class. :hug: :hug: :hug:


(. . jumping in here . . . have to jump back out . . . trying to be somewhat helpful.)

I do also hear maybe depression. Is that true? If you are depressed than we can hear general disappointment about your situation and capabilities. OMG. Are we hearing anxiety too. Both? I am soooooo sorry you are going through these feelings.


(We are all trying to communicate with words.)

It would be easier to communicate by hugs or maybe not even hugs. When I am in bad places in my head, I want someone to sit with me. If that helps you that pretend that we are taking turns sitting with you --- and leaving when you want us to go.
We are available for sitting.
We are available for hugs.
We can come over with any kind and quantity of cheese you want.


The most beauitful thing anyone ever did for me was my cousin. She came over one time for a few days. I asked her to sing a song for me. She did.

I gift you song if that helps you.

I have to run out the door.. . . . will check back when I can. :hug: :hug: :hug:


Mari



Mari

Waves,

We can take a break / hiatus from that term / expression for a while.

We can easily do that for you.

M

thanks (((everyone)))

bobby no need to apologize, you did nothing wrong and you had no way of knowing i'd go loopy. i am sorry if i caused you discomfort because of putting the whole explanation in response to your post.

:grouphug:

~ waves ~

OK, this is nutttts.... i mean.... WHAT NEXT?????
 

WHEN WILL IT END?????

ok. if you are insect phobic, or are grossed out easily... DO NOT read the rest of this post. seriously!!!!

i was finishing my drink after dinner. i saw a crumb of bread in it. i had split croutons for soup so i though that a bit had got into it.

on the last sip something got between my front teeth and i had little legs wriggling against my tongue! :yikes: i spat and screamed.

scared the heck out of my mom who promptly told me off! :( i told her my nervous system was not built to accept insects walking around in my mouth, and neither was hers, and she would have screamed too. she shut up.

i am not kidding. and i was not hallucinating. i left my mother examining the thing. she pronounced it to be a flying ant, and wondered how/why we are getting flying ants this time of year.

then the thought occurred to me thank goodness i didn't swallow it it would have wriggled in my stomach till it drowned and i would not have known what it was (or maybe... and EEWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!)

i keep having repeat-feeligns of the wriggling on my tongue... i can't shake it. anxiety is building. i already have weight on my chest and feel exhausted.

I mean.......... WHAT NEXT???????? :(:(:(

i am going to watch Castle now. i hope it distracts me enough. :o

i can't believe this. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!! :o:eek::(:eek::(:eek::o

~ waves ~

Waves,

Yes. That was a nasty surprise.
I hope Castle helped.
'Sending you good vibes.



Mari

Waves,

We are ok. We are concerned about you. Keep letting us know what is up.

M

yikes! that would have freaked me out too.
Bugs don't belong in drinks or food or inside.
period!
bizi

Hi Waves I understand what you are saying. I feel so many of the same feelings. Fear,false guilt,and fear of total failure are a hard combination. Strange dreams are difficult to shake off. BF:hug::hug::hug:

Waves

((((HUGS))))

I would promise to never use the statement. But I hate to say then it
would happen. Because I have a issue of my own called memory loss.

And I forget things like that.

So please if I make the statement, ignore it. Or ask me. Because it
means nothing more than it states. And I am not trying to cause you
anxiety. I just don't have any memory.

So just so you know. If I make the mistake and say it. Its because I
forgot.

Donna

Ps. Love ya.:grouphug::hug:

Hi waves
 

I now understand what conditions you are living under. I am somewhat surprised that you couldn't use the exta room, to get some peace and quiet. It is not like they would be in there every minute. Do they not give you any options at all? There are also sound reducing head sets, that muffle all sound really well. I so hope you can get to a place where you can dive into a book and tune it all out. I think I would go nuts too if I had to listen to loud TV and the news all day. that would make anyone a wreck. Is this your family? I really am trying to figure out something that would allow you to have quiet and settle your heart and soul. Would you let me know a little more about the situation you are in? There has to be a solution for you to have more peace in your life, I am thinking.....ginnie

Dear Waves, http://bestsmileys.com/love1/1.gif

I hope that you are doing ok today.

M

Hi waves
 

I did look up zoloft today. It should not make you anxious. It doesn't mention that as a horrible side effect or anything like that. I take that medication. In time it helps me to calm down. I too am glad your dad is looking into something that can help you relax. I hope your mom will open her heart and realize how serious the anxiety attacks can be. You do need that peace of mind where you can shut out those things that upset you. My real release is a book. I go away someplace, anyplace except where I am at. I loose myself in some adventure and all stress melts away. I never read before I got sick. I did that on the spur of the moment, and I found out my tears dried up while I was reading the book. Since that time I have used reading as a great escape. When I am upselt, I do have my own room which I hide in, and dive into what ever my current read is. I hope that can happen for you. Maybe your folks could adjust to your needs in this one thing for your to have more peace. I'd hide in a closet if I had to! I am still thinking, someone mentioned tichi, or yoga. That was a wonderful idea too. I have been told to do yoga also by friends, but I don't like going in public to do it. I'm not all that hep on large crowds these days. My thoughts and prayers are with you waves. I so hope that your mind and heart can rest a bit. ginnie

re: calling each other on "beating ourselves up"
 

Hi.

thank you again everyone. you are all wonderful. i appreciate your understanding, and trying to understand and trying to help. :grouphug:

ok so a few things. i've been thinking.

EVERYONE

i have thought. and memory issues aside, i don't even want us to try to shapeshift our interactions around some twisted stuff that happened to me. it hit me hard partly due to the twistedness, partly because it was from left field, but i think especially, because i was extremely depressed and therefore extremely vulnerable at the time.

the vulnerability was mine.
the depression was mine.
and the developed hypersensitivity is, of course, mine.

and now, *I* need to reprocess how i hear this. if i never hear it, i can't reprocess it. so. how about this plan: we all continue to call each other on "beating ourselves up" when we notice it, just as we have always done.

for a while, when i hear it, i will need to remind myself:
-- you guys are taking care of me.
-- you guys are trying to help me self-observe and self-nurture.
-- we can have constructive dialog if i disagree with the observation.

i changed here, and i need to change back, not bring you into my nightmare.

if we notice a specific beating-up thing (X), i think it could be helpful - but not just to me - for us to say "i think you are beating yourself up about X" but if it's a general feeling one gets from a post, clearly that wouldn't apply. and if you don't remember, no worries.

point is, let's not delete one of the ways we help each other, even temporarily. i think we'd be throwing out the baby with the bathwater. i think we should just march on as before. i will march with my list of affirmations above, to help me get over this this this.... thing! :o
:grouphug:

~ waves ~

Ginnie

i've used Zoloft (not on a constant basis) for ages and am very familiar with it, in general, and up close and personally. it is not likely to cause anxiety and is even used to treat Generalized Anxiety Disorder. However it CAN indeed cause anxiety in some people. i will talk to my doctor. we may want to try increasing it to see if it helps or make things worse. that may be the only way.

http://www.rxlist.com/zoloft-drug.htm

click Side Effects and Drug Interactions from the menu on the left

scroll down to Table 3: Treatment-Emergent Adverse Events...

scroll to section on Psychiatric Disorders

Anxiety: 4% against 3% for placebo
Agitation: 5% against 3% for placebo
Nervousness: 5% against 4% for placebo

that's not much, but it is something. there were 2000+ patients in each group.

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i appreciate your concern but i am doing the best i can with my domestic situation as are my parents. they do not have the tv on all day, it's just the evening news. i understand you don't understand all the dynamics but i wouldn't be able to explain them. just realize they are elderly and have their own issues. i am sick a lot between the migraines, depression, anxiety, hyperstimulus stuff.... i am a mess. they do all the shopping. i do very little. i can't stand going out. i do cook sometimes. the "extra" room is not "extra" it is theirs.

when i have a migraine they are much more careful but i can't ask them to tiptoe around all the time.

i am lucky they are willing to put a roof over my head and food on the table. i come here and vent, because it is hard, but believe me, it is hard on them too, and they make sacrifices too. how many people do you know with a double bed permanently folded out in their living room? i don't fold it up because it is sort of like my only personal territory - like a room with invisible walls. when i had a room, i always loved to do things sittng on the bed or on the floor, but here the floor is too cold. i also find the folded up version/loveseat uncomfortable so i only fold things up if someone has to come by, or when i am working.

i don't really want to share more about my home situation. i just need to vent sometimes is all. not really looking for solutions. this is a different culture and many things would be hard to apply anyway. thanks all the same for the concern. :hug::hug::hug:

~ waves ~

Dear Mari...

i had answered your post on anxiety and depression with another post but cut and then cut something else before pasting... (confused yet?) so i lost what i typed. i will retype tomorrow, or maybe later if i can't sleep.

but short answer: both. high depression, high anxiety. :o

:hug::hug::hug:

~ waves ~

Waves

My only thoughts. You and your parents are doing a great job working
together on this trying to solve the problem.

It shows how much they love you, ....:grouphug:

Dear Waves,

This is not a good combination.
I'm hoping the pdoc has good ideas.

M