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343v343 12-23-2011 11:03 PM

Nerve Hypersensitivity?
 
Anyone else have extreme (nerve?) hyper sensitivity in skin? If I touch random parts of my skin very gently on my arm or shoulders I feel pain. Even brush it with fabric... But if I press it firmly, nothing. Which would seem like its not a trigger point...

It seems random like one day it's here- the next somewhere else. Inconsistent and not along the typical ulnar distribution either. I also get weird burning pain on the surface of my arms and shoulders but not the deep stabbing pain so many others describe.

Anyone else get this??

boytos 12-23-2011 11:04 PM

https://www.google.com/search?q=pent...ient=firefox-a

https://www.google.com/search?q=pent...w=1440&bih=806

pentoxifylline may attenuate it if it's not too late..

Seem early crps to me.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2673487/

These results suggest that proinflammatory cytokines contribute to the nociceptive and vascular sequelae of fracture and that PTX treatment can reverse these CRPS-like changes.

chroma 12-24-2011 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 343v343 (Post 835072)
Anyone else have extreme (nerve?) hyper sensitivity in skin? If I touch random parts of my skin very gently on my arm or shoulders I feel pain. Even brush it with fabric... But if I press it firmly, nothing. Which would seem like its not a trigger point...

It seems random like one day it's here- the next somewhere else. Inconsistent and not along the typical ulnar distribution either. I also get weird burning pain on the surface of my arms and shoulders but not the deep stabbing pain so many others describe.

Anyone else get this??

Have you been able to share this with a neurologist and get their take on it? If so, I'm just curious what they suggested.

Sorry, but I do not have these symptoms.

343v343 12-24-2011 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chroma (Post 835092)
Have you been able to share this with a neurologist and get their take on it? If so, I'm just curious what they suggested.

Have seen 3. One suggested it could fall under sympathetic nerve damage via TOS. One suggested it could be small fiber neuropathy. One thought I was crazy and wanted to give me Klonopin. Just wondering if anyone else had experienced it.

SD38 12-24-2011 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 343v343 (Post 835096)
Have seen 3. One suggested it could fall under sympathetic nerve damage via TOS. One suggested it could be small fiber neuropathy. One thought I was crazy and wanted to give me Klonopin. Just wondering if anyone else had experienced it.

On rare occassions and only very briefly.... I get more of the deep achy throbbing stuff or fatigue as the norm however I do get burning at times.
Take it easy!!! x

boytos 12-24-2011 04:46 AM

sympathetic nerve damage A.K.A Crps

to me you rapidly need anti citokynes therapy, or pharmacological sympathetic block ..

Just to prevent any chance of developping serious crps..

tossucks 12-24-2011 01:36 PM

It is quite possible to be crps, not to scare you. Many times tos is mistaken for crps, as well many with tos devlope crps, due to the constant hammering on the central nervous system. from the compression on the BP and inflamation effecting the stellate Gaglions. Sometimes its just an overactive central nervous system as well, and by relieving the tos it can get better. Speak to your tos dr asap.
Very important is Magnesium in helping the body to recover.
only pure element magnesium will work, ie, nothing else added with it.
Also Magnesium cannot be absorbed properly without Calcium. Here is the formula needed.
Every AM : 1 tab Calcium and Vit D 500 supplement
1 tab Magnesium 250 mg
Every PM: 1 tab Magnesium 250 mg

This is very important as our bodies lack magnesium in chronic pain. It can help bring the nervous system back under control. I would give it a month before you notice any results. Also our pain meds can cause constipation....dont expect that anymore on magnesium. :D
Epson salt baths are nice, but do not provide enough magnesium that we lack.
Cheers,
Jay

343v343 12-24-2011 02:24 PM

Have thought about crps. But I wonder:

It's in both arms. Which would be odd, no? No color change. No swelling. No excessive sweating. No excessive nail growth or hair growth. I'm scheduled to meet another specialist in January. Will ask them about what they think it could be.

Titus 12-24-2011 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 343v343 (Post 835072)
Anyone else have extreme (nerve?) hyper sensitivity in skin? If I touch random parts of my skin very gently on my arm or shoulders I feel pain. Even brush it with fabric... But if I press it firmly, nothing. Which would seem like its not a trigger point...

It seems random like one day it's here- the next somewhere else. Inconsistent and not along the typical ulnar distribution either. I also get weird burning pain on the surface of my arms and shoulders but not the deep stabbing pain so many others describe.

Anyone else get this??

I experience the same thing and Dr.s keep telling me its not CRPS but I understand how you feel. I never know why it is there sometimes and other times its not. When I apply pressure it feels better like there is no pain.

343v343 12-24-2011 09:22 PM

Feels better to know someone else gets this too. Happy holidays.

MarcS 12-25-2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 343v343 (Post 835269)
Feels better to know someone else gets this too. Happy holidays.

I don't have exactly the same symptoms, but I thought I would reply to your post anyway. Sometimes it feels like my hands are on fire, I don't have "No color change. No swelling. No excessive sweating. No excessive nail growth or hair growth." Either. Neurologists never brought up cprs. One thing that really changed my perception of pain and especially the book "the mindbody prescription", with that I got some tools to control my stress levels which really affect the burning. Not that I think my pain is simply imagenary, but some pain is controlled by your state of mind. Wish you the best of luck, and happy holidays. P.s I have really appreciated your enormous research regarding surgery outcomes, been following your posts for a while and I just wanted to thank you. I think there's a lot like me, who read the posts but don't reply due to pain or whatever. Rest assured that we appreciate all posts.

adult_aq_stenosis 12-26-2011 11:11 AM

Nervous transmission pathways.
 
I don't get these hypesthesias that you are describing, but I wanted to add that there is a separate nervous pathway that transmits light touch from deep touch. That can account for only some sensory stimuli disturbances.

Clematis 12-26-2011 06:41 PM

The nerve / skin hypersensitivity can be caused by nerve irritation and damage as well. I got trigeminal nerve injury in 2008 (face nerve) and it caused burning and hypersensitivity of my jaw, chin and mouth. It took about 1.5 years before the nerve fully healed / the sensation diminished. Currently I have some arm hypersensitivity caused by TOS (nerve irritation and injury).

Clinton6 12-27-2011 12:26 AM

Allodynia ??? Check it out it may apply to you. And CRPS is different for every sufferer. I have both the burning and sensitivity to touch, fabrics even the ceiling fans as well as deep throbbing pain. Neurontin is a god send for me!! Good luck :hug:

mspennyloafer 12-27-2011 10:20 AM

my pt said i had crps (NOT TOS? huh i do have some tos) and yeah my mag was .5 (1.5-2.2 range)

HRMMMMMMMMMMMM

mspennyloafer 12-27-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Clematis (Post 835594)
The nerve / skin hypersensitivity can be caused by nerve irritation and damage as well. I got trigeminal nerve injury in 2008 (face nerve) and it caused burning and hypersensitivity of my jaw, chin and mouth. It took about 1.5 years before the nerve fully healed / the sensation diminished. Currently I have some arm hypersensitivity caused by TOS (nerve irritation and injury).


yeah i think i have this. damage and irritation from stretching. i was doing some very aggravating things for a AWHILE and i was low on magnesium. ive never had sweaty swelling (not like what i've seen pictured) or redness (very very mild raynauds..). it's just burning and itching and pins and needles. kind of raw feeling. but i dont mind people touching it. when my nerves are really ****** off it feels like a fireworks show going on. i can feel the nerves(?) firing off around my scalene and then in my elbow. soemtimes down to my wrist. it's not that PAINFUL but it is just very very weird feeling

i really think anything with the word SYNDROME on it you have to just investigate for yourself. its a crutch


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Originally Posted by tossucks (Post 835195)
It is quite possible to be crps, not to scare you. Many times tos is mistaken for crps, as well many with tos devlope crps, due to the constant hammering on the central nervous system. from the compression on the BP and inflamation effecting the stellate Gaglions. Sometimes its just an overactive central nervous system as well, and by relieving the tos it can get better

crap. i was doing some shoulder strengthening (against a bar) and i talked on the phone for a LONG time with my elbow really bent, causing my pecs to burn. one of these activities made my sellate ganglions start hurting on my tos side. i had no idea what this was. maybe i should ice it?

actually i think this is more of my scm being too tight. its jsut weird to me its only on one side


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