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Rrae 01-11-2012 10:01 PM

Would a new insurance deny battery replacement as 'pre-existing condition'
 
My first thought on this is yes they would deny....
Have any of you been faced with this, or know anything about it?

My current Ins is through my employer and the company pays the premiums (almost $700/mo!). Due to corporate greed, my company and my job may be desolving within a year or so and I would not be able to afford that kind of premium.
I don't want to have to feel 'stuck' with this Ins, but maybe I am. I hope I have a few yrs left with my battery life, but who knows. This is something I'll eventually have to face, be it next year or 5 yrs from now. Sure wouldn't want to be stuck paying for the whole thing out of pocket!

If anyone can chime in, I'd appreciate it

Rae
:grouphug:

Mark56 01-11-2012 11:11 PM

Insurance
 
Yo, Rae-

Under insurance portability acts both federally and in state laws, assuming you obtain insurance under a new employment if that occurs, pre-existing conditions should be waived. Were you not to find replacement work with benefits resulting in your purchase of insurance personally, take a look at any pre-existing condition issues with an agent BEFORE signing any paperwork.

I know I did read every single page of the Bama Care legislation, and I have had so MUCH contract language under the bridge since then I frankly have forgotten. I can take a look at the language again, as upon full implementation it is surely to have something to say on point.

If your workplace knew how very hard you work, they would never in a million years elect to separate you from employment.

Remember, if you are within an employee base of sufficient numbers, COBRA should be part of the picture enabling continuation of the coverage another 18 months.

ARGHHHHHHHH,
Mark56:hug:

ElizaJane23 01-12-2012 12:56 AM

That's rough
 
Boy, serving on active duty then and being an Air Force wife for 20 years was rough: low pay, substandard housing, lot of travel to remote locations away from my daughter and I, but we loved it at the time and really didn't know how much civilian jobs paid, so we didn't know (a lot if the time) what we were missing. Military medicine does have it's disadvantages but I always know that we have it to fall back on. It definitely would be a source of comfort in a situation like yours. I hope it all works out for you!

fionab 01-12-2012 10:18 AM

How about calling the ins. dept. of the company that made your implant (was it Boston Scientific??). They may have experience with this kind of thing because I'm sure you'd not be the only one to have to change jobs and then face needing a new battery implant. Just a thought! Sorry to hear about the possibility of having to find a new job...it's always something, isn't it...but then, it's always an opportunity for prayer and to watch God work things out!! :hug::hug:

JoanB 01-12-2012 11:00 AM

Affordable Health Care Act "Obama Care"
 
Starting in 2014, insurers cannot deny benefits based on preexisting conditions. Unfortunately, this doesn`t help much right now. But it`s a good reason not to repeal it.

Rrae 01-12-2012 07:27 PM

Thanx my friends
 
Some very sound advice given here! You all rock :cool:

I'm only in year 2 of having my unit, so hopefully I've got several yrs left - without having to change the battery.

I like what Joan says regarding the Obama care. I hope it sticks. I can hold out til 2014 no problem! This would sure bring comfort in knowing this.......as long as the forces that be in government don't somehow screw this up. :rolleyes:

Fiona has good point - check with Medtronic (in my case). They may have some hints.
Mark, thank you! If I'm face to face with a potential Ins agent and he says it would be covered.....I'd still need to get that down in writing, yes?

Wow, Eliza, I didn't know you were in the military.....no wonder you're so 'tough' :cool:

JoanB 01-12-2012 07:45 PM

Rrae, I would have given you this link earlier, but was at work and using my Kindle and it was too hard (I don't want them knowing my personal health business, so don't come here on their network):

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/resour...eexisting.html

There is also a type of insurance available now that people with pre-existing conditions can get, which looks like it would be a little less expensive than the premium you're looking at now:

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/featur....html#benefits

Hope this helps.:hug:

Rrae 01-12-2012 08:18 PM

Thank you Joan!
 
I'll put those links in my left pocket for safe keeping :cool:

Another thought that enters my mind...
If I remember correctly, I think these units technically fall under the category of DME (durable medical equipment) so maybe that in itself would not be considered as pre-existing.... The DME isn't a condition per se. The battery is a piece of equipment that needs maintenance.

I spose this could be looked at in several different ways.

This is something that could probably easily be looked into and maybe even the company (Medtronic) would advise on this.....or like Joan says, there might be some sort of legislation that has this covered.

Nanc 01-12-2012 09:10 PM

Hey Rae, the important thing is to not have a break in coverage. As long as there is not a break in coverage, moving from your employer plan to either COBRA coverage (if eligible) or an individual plan, you will not be faced with a pre-existing condition clause. I know COBRA premiums are outrageous, but there are other more affordable individual plans you can get until you can get covered on a new employer plan (hopefully).
If there is a break in coverage of more than 63 days, then you could be faced with a pre-existing condition clause on a new plan...there is no way around it unless they are a large carrier and just do not have any clauses but most do.
Like others said, Obama care is doing away it....gradually.

Nanc

Mark56 01-12-2012 11:47 PM

Joan and Nanc are on point
 
So, Rae, avoid breaks in coverage until legislation is fully effective. Speaking with any agent get language in writing to consider. Watch the premiums, language is key, speak about existing DME as an exceptoin to some lapse in coverage.

Don't let this overwhelm or overcome you. Take one day at a time.

All will be well,
Mark56:grouphug::hug:

Rrae 01-12-2012 11:55 PM

Like true champions....
 
Thank you :hug:
These are the types of threads I usually print out for future reference. Everyone has such good input. It brings peace of mind, just knowing that I've received quality feedback from my best colleagues! :p

I didn't even consider that about the break in coverage. Thanks for that and point well taken!

Amen!

Rae
:grouphug:

JoanB 01-13-2012 12:15 PM

Good!
 
Glad we got all that established...does this mean we can go back to being Pop Tarts and sock monkeys now?:D

Rrae 01-13-2012 06:38 PM

Heck Yes!
 
Too much serious talk can make the brain stale ....
.......and NOW for something completely different!
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Mark56 01-14-2012 01:36 AM

:)
 
Um, well............, uh, GAWRSH.:o

ElizaJane23 01-14-2012 02:44 AM

Me Tough?
 
I don't know about me being tough. This fiesty Air Force staff sergeant crumpled like a big weenie my first spinal lumbar surgery. I had a c-section incision so they could move all my innards to each side to get to my lumbar spine. Then they gave me a big incision from my right hip to harvest bone and I got a bone infection from that. Man, was I sick and hurting, and I had to put on a custom made brace while still in bed so I could get out of bed and one of the bars laid right over that infected bone infection in my hip. Evidently I screamed when getting out of the hospital bed in our den for the first full month. That was 14 years ago and my 28-year old daughter is just starting to talk about how much that traumatized her. I know - we all have our horror stories about dealing with all we've had to go through. Amazing isn't it? We've made it - to a point where there is hope for a better tomorrow. Not pain free, but better than it was. We've survived. I think everyone here is a hero.

Mark56 01-14-2012 09:57 AM

Well said
 
You covered it Eliza-

Now for the next chapter in your story,
Mark56:grouphug:


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