Has anyone tried Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy?
 

Was just wondering if anyone's tried hyperbaric oxygen therapy?
Did it help?
How long was each session & how frequently?

Would love your input!

I tried about 12 sessions 45 mins each, twice a week. Didn't do much for my main symptoms - dizziness, visual issues, dull headaches, fatigue etc.,

I believe some in this forum reported success. Only good thing is no side effects.

There have been numerous studies of HBOT. The only noticed value it has is during the acute comatose stages.

There are plenty of HBOT clinics trying to sell it for mTBI and such but the science does not validate the cost.

My positive experience with HBOT
 

Hi everyone,

I have had post-concussion syndrome for over two years and began hyperbaric oxygen therapy just under a month ago. I have never posted here before, but I have had a good experience with HBOT and wanted to share my observations with others.

I was motivated to try HBOT after I took a vacation at high altitude and noticed that my symptoms got worse and worse the week I was there. Since many of them mimic altitude sickness (e.g. dizziness, nausea, headaches) I decided to try taking compressed oxygen, which stores at our resort were touting for that condition. To my extreme surprise, the oxygen made me feel a little bit better.

Heartened by this experience, I began researching HBOT and discovered that the U.S. military is currently conducting Phase II clinical trials of the use of HBOT for PCS:

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No data are yet available from these studies, but I was impressed that the treatment is being explored in Phase II trials. Phase II studies typically involve 100-300 people and are done after pilot or Phase I studies suggest the treatment may be useful. There have already been anecdotal reports of HBOT helping PCS patients, **

I decided I wanted to give HBOT a try. Fortunately, my neurologist was receptive (something that really surprised me, as he is typically very conservative) although he admitted there are not yet good data on it. However, it would have been easy for me to get treatment from an independent center without his approval - the place I am using did not even require a referral from a doctor.

Most places that take insurance will not accept PCS as patients because the treatment is off-label. Even when I offered to pay myself, none of the hospitals or wound care centers in my area would take me. Still, there are independent HBOT centers that will treat pretty much anyone. I am receiving HBOT at a mom-and-pop operation that charges me $150 per treatment.

I have had 12 treatments over the last 3.5 weeks, going 3-4 times each week. I would like to go more frequently (the protocol in most of the studies is to go every day), but my schedule has not permitted it. I am currently receiving treatment at 1.5 atm, although the tech would like to bump it up to 1.75 atm soon. Each treatment consists of one hour on oxygen, plus 10-15 minutes at the beginning and the end to pressurize and depressurize the chamber.

So far, I have made steady - though not spectacular - progress. Before I began treatment, I was feeling so bad I could barely leave home or take care of myself. I would not have been able to write this post because it was difficult to focus. I struggled even to make myself meals. Now, I have periods where I feel well enough to work on my computer (usually <1 hour at a time), take walks outside, and do light housework.

It is a bit difficult to tell how much of this improvement I should attribute to the oxygen. For the past two years, I have cycled between feeling okay and feeling terrible. Typically, I make slow, almost imperceptible improvement from week to week, but this progress is easily derailed by the smallest stressors - bumping my head lightly, being in a loud/noisy place for too long, getting my heart rate up for any length of time, even just dealing with a stressful situation. After one of these setbacks, it takes me months just to barely function again, but I do improve. So it's hard to say how much of my recent improvement is thanks to HBOT and how much is thanks to time.

Still, I do think HBOT helps. The sessions clear my brain fog and give me energy in a way that just lying down and resting does not. Typically, at the beginning of a session I will be a bit drowsy and want to close my eyes. Halfway through, I feel much more alert and cannot keep my eyes closed. My mind becomes more active, though I try to focus on just breathing in and out. I have more energy in the afternoons after my treatment than in the mornings before I go.

These effects can be short-lived depending on how ambitious I am with my activities after treatment. Even just riding in a car to and from the center can wipe out the effects, especially if it is sunny out. I wear sunglasses and try to avoid looking out the window.

Sometimes I feel dizzy when I first exit the chamber, especially if I have taken a few days off. I try to sit up towards the end of my sessions to avoid this. Dizziness has become less of a problem for me over time.

The first time I went, I actually felt terrible afterwards and had to sleep for the rest of the day. I haven't had that problem since.

In addition to the acute effects of the oxygen, which I do think are real, HBOT could also be helping me in other ways.

Part of the improvement could be due to the placebo effect - I have tried numerous drugs and other therapies, but this is the only thing that I really believe has worked. It has been disheartening to have a condition with no proven cures, and it is great to feel like I am actually doing something to get better. Even if 100% of my improvement were due to the placebo effect, I would continue going. At the end of the day all I care about is that I get better, and if the placebo effect helps me do it faster, then I am all for it!

Part of the improvement could also be from the fact that HBOT forces me to do absolutely nothing for about 1.5 hours each day. Most of the time, it is hard for me to have the discipline to do this unless I am actually sleepy and want to nap.

Additionally, while I am on oxygen (1 hour) the breathing apparatus makes noise when I inhale and exhale, making it difficult to focus on anything other than my breath. Since focusing on the breath is a tenet of many meditation practices, I wonder if this experience is teaching me a mild form of meditation. Outside of HBOT, I am now able to relax and focus on my breath for much longer periods than I ever could before. This helps me rest and recover more quickly when I am feeling bad.

So, to summarize:
- HBOT 3-4x/week for 1 hr @ 1.5 atm. 12 treatments so far.
- Costs me $150/treatment
- Acute improvement during the treatment itself: feel more energetic and focused
- Occasional dizziness on exit from chamber; has decreased with time
- Long-term improvement may or may not be due to HBOT
- Even if HBOT itself is not helping, placebo effect and learning to relax are positive side effects

I am happy to answer any questions that anyone has about my experience. I consider myself fortunate to have the means to experiment with this while it is still unproven, and I want to help others who are deciding whether or not it is worth it to spend the money.

Right now, my recommendation would be to try HBOT if doing so will not create new sources of stress for you, since these can wipe out your progress. Try to go as often as possible and don't expect any miracles. The tech at my center says it often takes 10 sessions before people start noticing any changes.

I hope to update this thread after I have more treatments with information about my progress, or lack thereof. Best of luck to everyone!

Did the benefits last?
 

Hi Everyone,
I'm here because I'm concerned about my son who has pcs. He's had it for about 8 months, following a soccer accident. I was wondering if you still feel the hyperbaric oxygen therapy was helpful. I noticed your last post was awhile ago. Your description of your symptoms sounded very like my son's. We have been considering the oxygen therapy.

HappyPaddler,

Welcome to NeuroTalk. Sorry to hear of your son's injury. I suffered an injury playing soccer back in 1970.

HBOT is a very expensive and unproven therapy for PCS.

What symptoms are you son struggling with ? What has he been doing to enhance recovery ? How old is he ? What has the doctor been doing for him ?

Please feel free to ask any question you may have. There are plenty of good people here for you.

My best to you and your son.

Monkie,

I have done HBOT since November of 2012 and have done about 12 or so treatments lasting about 35-40 minutes per treatment with the lowest level. I mainly did the 1000 psi level with is the lowest, they did go up to 3000 but I felt pretty foggy after that treatment so I went back down to 1000. It's pretty expensive per treatment but I was able to get a pretty good discount from my chiropractor. Alot of people on this forum say it's hard to say if it does help and you have to do like 80 sessions or something to see if it works.

From my experience, I did skip a week of HBOT one week and I was feeling pretty foggy that following week. I was kinda skeptical because I felt everyone at my chiropractor kept saying, "It will help you recover faster", "The doctor recommends it" . It's hard to say for me only because I started in November with this chiropractor but my foggyness has been getting better ever since I started with him. If it's within your budget you can try it out to see if HBOT does help.

m00sekat33r

moose,

Does your chiro run the HBOT clinic ?

1000 psi and 3000 psi are not valid pressures. 21 psi or 28 psi would be 1.5 and 2.0 atmospheres. 1.5 atmospheres is a common protocol.

If a single HBOT makes a difference, I would be concerned about what your Ox saturation is at normal pressure is. Maybe you are not breathing properly and your O2 is low.

Mark,

I have to double check the pressures, I don't go in till March 2nd to see him. He doesn't run a clinic he just has the HBOT machine in the office.

Any updates on this treatment? None of the studies I've read have been particularly convincing either way. Even the placebo studies put the placebo group at 1.3 atms. And it's hard to know who's funding the studies that show improvements. That said, I'm inclined to take a risk because the placebo studies only show a pvalue of 0.05 and I'd be willing to pay for a 5% chance of cure.

Before I do this does anyone know of any major side effects?
Thanks for any tips!

Other Oxygen Treatment
 

In Germany and other Countries they do another therapy where some of your blood is taken out by an IV, one liter I think. Then your blood is infused with Oxygen and put back in your body. I had this done. HBOT goes into your lungs then into your blood stream. The other type heads straight for the blood stream. You ay want to look at both types depending on how you feel or the choice you make look around on the net for this type as well. I've done this one for problems and it helped but it doesn't last so you have to repeat it.The blood cleanses itself very often so I think some of the Oxygen is lost then you have to keep getting it. In Mexico right over the Border near Calif they do this treatment you can see clinics online and read about it. One women did so well with it she hired a Nurse to come to her home and got a home machine she does her own now and doesn't go to Mexico. Good Luck ! not sure of the help regarding TBI etc..You may want to search this other treatment and what it shows about that.

My experiences with HBOT are similar to Keg's in that I have occasionally felt a little dizzy afterwards but I feel that I have probably derived some benefit from it. In any case, it did not make things worse. I have done 80 treatments two thirds at 1.5 atmospheres and one third at 2 atmostpheres pressure, each treatment lasting 1 hour at pressure. I did read that to do more than about 100 treatments consecutively might result in oxygen toxicity. However, I have had a break of over a year now so I might do some more. I know people who have had up to 1,000 treatments over several decades and they don't seem to have experienced any toxicity, so perhaps it is OK to do more than 100 treatments provided that you space them out. My doctor told me that he didn't think that it would do any harm, which is probably the main thing. The only caveat is that it should be administered by someone who is aware of the potential fire risk when using concentrated oxygen.

I think that the treatments that I have had, probably helped me, but they did not provide a complete cure. Nevertheless, I will probably try another 20 sessions. I have read that it is advisable to do several sessions a week. Unfortunately I was able to do only 3 sessions per week - more would have been better.

Happy Paddler, you may be interested to know that one of the people doing the sessions at the same time as me was a young boy, probably about 8 years old. He did the sessions with his mother. So, I assume that it is a possible treatment for a child. I don't know whether it was successful or not.

CS

Hi concussed scientist. Thanks for the info. Out of curiosity...is HBOT covered by the NHS? It is not covered in Canada.

No, in the UK HBOT is not available under the NHS. However, it is used in Multiple Sclerosis centres (non-profits) and they let non-MS users use the facilities for a very reasonable charge. When I tried it it was £22 a session. I think that it has probably gone up but nevertheless it must still be really cheap compared to commercial facilities. CS

Hi - I found your post to be incredibly informative and helpful. I have had PCS for 2.5 years and am considering HBOT. I would love to know your thoughts on it now that more time has lapsed since you did it. Many many thanks, Sarah

sarahld,

Welcome to NeuroTalk.

This is an old thread from 8/2013. Concussed Scientist has not been on lately. HBOT has been discussed in many different thread. Many have tried it. Very few have experienced anything that suggests a positive result.

Please feel free to introduce yourself and tell us about the symptoms you are struggling with. We're here to help.

My best to you.