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SpaceCadet 03-16-2012 01:11 PM

NeuroCranial Restructuring
 
Has anyone tried this?

http://www.ncrdoctors.com

I heard about it from someone on another support group. They said they got positive results from it...including cognitive improvement. He told me it could reduce pressure on my frontal lobe.

Just wondering if anyone knows about this.

I'm considering trying it.

EsthersDoll 03-16-2012 03:32 PM

Wow! That looks really interesting!

I wonder if the effects of the procedure are somewhat long-lasting.

Here's a video for those interested in what's going on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ngRpnBN3ag

SpaceCadet 03-25-2012 09:21 PM

Bump.

Does anyone know about this?

I don't think its been discussed on this forum before.

Mark in Idaho 03-25-2012 10:10 PM

Neuro Cranial Restructuring was mentioned here long ago. The discussion did not go far.

From what I have found, NCR is either useful or a waste of time and money. It depends on the patient. Those who have a specific problem that NCR will correct may benefit. Those who have very minor issues may see no difference.

So, the question remains. ???????

Jeffrey 03-25-2012 10:30 PM

Thanks for the topic. There's only one person I could get a ride to in the Bay Area that does this.

Dr. Miyashita in Palo Alto, CA. He doesn't even do e-mail.

$500 or so, but if it works, it means I'm not just waiting for release from pain or death. 20 months of chronic pain is wearing me down.

Then again, that's what the crooks might be banking on.

Suckers looking for relief.

That is why I must trust in God alone. The world is filled with uncertainty.

SpaceCadet 03-25-2012 10:35 PM

I'm always afraid stuff like this could make me worse.

I have a fear that instead of relieving pressure on my frontal lobe, it will add pressure to it.

glitzy 04-27-2012 12:27 AM

i got NCR done to help my bite after some awful orthodontics in high school (TMJ, lopsided face, one side couldnt show expression) and i'm really happy with it! bonuses include vivid dreams, 1.5" height increase, faster recovery from sports/dance injuries.

i train hard so i go in once every two months for tune ups.

dr. musich in morgan hill is awesome.

Mark in Idaho 04-27-2012 04:30 AM

FYI,

Morgan Hill is about 20 miles south of San Jose, California.

Chandler 06-07-2013 02:26 PM

bumping this because I'm interested in hearing if anyone else has anything new to report on this topic

anon22217 06-07-2013 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 990243)
bumping this because I'm interesting in hearing if anyone else has anything new to report on this topic

$500 for the whole treatment?

Chandler 06-07-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluehiroko (Post 990291)
$500 for the whole treatment?

That's actually the cheapest I've heard.

Mark in Idaho 06-07-2013 07:32 PM

People need to understand how NCR works. The therapist inserts a balloon into the sinuses via the nose. After careful placement, the balloon is inflated and the pressure is supposed to move the bones of the upper face/sinuses to better positions. In someone who has a facial bone structure problem, this could help. I bet there are plenty of painful results, too.

Rather than asking about NCR, I think the question should be about the individual symptoms that NCR is expected to resolve.

The NCR therapist in Palo Alto/Menlo Park is trained as an acupuncturist.

Before I let someone try to change those bones in me, I would seek out comments from an ENT or ENT/maxillo-facial surgeon. I can understand how many may need NCR to try to relieve problems created by overly aggressive orthodontists. My kids' orthodontist did his master's thesis on how the bones of the face and front of the skull can or can't move. The results of his research was that those bones are very difficult to move, especially permanently. In his research, he saw the damage done by orthodontists who are too aggressive with their attempts to move the bones of the upper jaw.

Chandler 06-07-2013 09:07 PM

So is that the main condition or cause this procedure addresses - orthodontic damage, and not so much TBI damage ?

anon22217 06-07-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 990343)
So is that the main condition or cause this procedure addresses - orthodontic damage, and not so much TBI damage ?

In my opinion it sounds very scary. I would try acupuncture and chinese medicine and cranial sacral therapy and chiropractic neurology before this.

Mark in Idaho 06-08-2013 12:23 AM

It is used for a variety of so called facial-cranial issues. The application to concussions is not directed at facial-cranial deformities from the concussion specifically. Problems from aggressive orthodontic treatment is just a common reason for NCR.

There is no way anybody can tell you that it will or won't make a difference with PCS.

It can be an expensive shot in the dark. If the money is not a strain, who can say.

taroki 10-10-2014 02:07 AM

bump ...

I am also interested in learning about this. Mostly from anyone with Lyme, atlas subluxation, and possible fault at sphenobasilar joint.

My cranial related symptoms which I am still hoping to fix are :

1. electrosensitivity
2. central nervous system/immune dysfunction, electrolyte issue
3. sensitive hearing/sometimes auditory processing problem
4. busy brain/learning disability (cannot follow lesson in class, or copy notes at same time)
5. very weak muscles/joints after back injury
6. even as a kid would always get into trouble and don't know why, easily criticized, not breast fed
7. sugar or orgasm causes headaches
8. top of head caved in
9. mercury in brain, poor blood flow
10. eyesight nearsightedness


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