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Droopy 03-27-2012 11:27 AM

Cold Feet & Hands
 
I feel like I'm thawing out now that is warmer weather. With small fiber PN will warmer weather help me more than a cold climate. I'm not using my wheelchair as much if I don't overdo it. Can anybody relate to this and have moved to Fla. ect.

mrsD 03-27-2012 11:54 AM

I find I feel best between about 50 degrees and 85 degrees.

Anything higher than 85 and my feet start burning. Anything cold and I hurt and get stiff (hypothyroid issues). High humidity is hard for me too.

Some PNers have specific temps they prefer. But most of us
get increased pain and other symptoms when the weather changes quickly with LOW barometric pressures coming in.
I think Florida would be agony for me. Lots of storms there, and high humidity.

Sallysblooms 03-27-2012 12:17 PM

I live in Texas. It gets hot and humid for a few months in summer. I just stay cool inside and all of the shops/restaurants are cool so it is fine.

Fall, winter and spring are perfect. Depends where in Texas. It can get very cold in west and north Texas but I am in the s. east.

Florida is simular but less cold in winter. All season except summer are great!

Leesa 03-27-2012 01:09 PM

I'm just like Mrs.D -- cold weather is awful. High humidity is bad too, and I live in Michigan where the humidity is terrible due to the Lakes on all sides. Summer is best, unless it gets into the mid 80s to 90's which it does often in the summer. Also, barometric changes raise cain with me. :rolleyes:

Seems like my feet are always cold, and I've had my circulation checked too, and it's fine -- but the feet STILL are cold. :confused: Oh well. At least I have feet, right?

God bless and take care. Hugs, Lee ;)

Droopy 03-27-2012 05:05 PM

Mrs.D I liked your saying so much I put it on my favorite quotes. Thank you and I always like what you share. Lee, thanks also and I have to go to a meeting tonight and picked up a 21 year chip 2 weeks ago. Your friend in the fellowship...Droopy

aussiemom 03-27-2012 08:35 PM

I'm in Florida too. Summers are hot and hotter. Humid, yeah, that too. Winters? Ahhhhh

Even when its cold here, for us, maybe in the 40s at night, I keep a heating pad on my bed for my frozen feet. I turn it on low, it has a timer on it, goes off in 2 hours. Its easier for me to cool off than warm up any day.

karsten 03-27-2012 11:27 PM

I have had my hands and especially my feet flare up with cold feelings even in warm weather the last couple of years. It is not a fun experience.

I recently read that magnesium can improve these symptoms. After replacing my 500 mg dose of magnesium oxide with more readily absorpable types, my symptoms have improved dramatically. Honestly, I'm blown away at how much better I feel.

I know this might not work for everyone, but after about a month of changing my type of magnesium supplements the results really can't be disputed.

I suggest anyone with these symptoms who doesn't already take a good source of magnesium try it.

Good luck.

mrsD 03-28-2012 05:33 AM

Happy for you that the mag is working! It is amazing how long people live and forget how they could really feel by fixing this one simple nutrient!

Our diet in US is so low in magnesium, commonly! :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by karsten (Post 864549)
I have had my hands and especially my feet flare up with cold feelings even in warm weather the last couple of years. It is not a fun experience.

I recently read that magnesium can improve these symptoms. After replacing my 500 mg dose of magnesium oxide with more readily absorpable types, my symptoms have improved dramatically. Honestly, I'm blown away at how much better I feel.

I know this might not work for everyone, but after about a month of changing my type of magnesium supplements the results really can't be disputed.

I suggest anyone with these symptoms who doesn't already take a good source of magnesium try it.

Good luck.


ditzydame 03-29-2012 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karsten (Post 864549)
I recently read that magnesium can improve these symptoms. After replacing my 500 mg dose of magnesium oxide with more readily absorpable types, my symptoms have improved dramatically.
Good luck.

okkkk.
isnt that great:)

what is the type of magnesium you take please??
i take a chelated version 500mg at night with some calcium and i used to add zince but stopped the latter. cant remember why:confused:

i have cold feet on *bad* days. burning hot cold feet. otherwise they are just painful and burning hot.
my hands will go abnormally cold with cold water or cold weather or picking up frozen things. our winters here are not terrible like north american ones, but by night in the winter i am usually careful about the water temps and might wear gloves to pick up frozen anything

i have temperature regulation problems too so i tend to not feel the cold except in my hands and feet but the summer is a problem for me

maybe my magnesium is helping me and i dont know it?????

sooo........you reckon barometric pressure Mrs D.
i decided that was probably a trigger for me..... but unless i keep track of it as i once did for my son for a science thing......it is so variable around here that it is tricky to keep track of if the pain is worse before or after or during the change

DD

Geraldine 03-29-2012 02:11 AM

I haven't been on here in a while, but I live in florida and want to say that YES the barometric pressure/storms coming in definitely causes chaos... I always feel that I'm getting sick, something isn't right, and then we'll get a storm and I'll be okay when the weather is back to normal. When the seasons change... and in Florida this can be a lot!

karsten 03-29-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ditztdame (Post 864863)
okkkk.
isnt that great:)

what is the type of magnesium you take please??
i take a chelated version 500mg at night with some calcium and i used to add zince but stopped the latter. cant remember why:confused:

i have cold feet on *bad* days. burning hot cold feet. otherwise they are just painful and burning hot.
my hands will go abnormally cold with cold water or cold weather or picking up frozen things. our winters here are not terrible like north american ones, but by night in the winter i am usually careful about the water temps and might wear gloves to pick up frozen anything

i have temperature regulation problems too so i tend to not feel the cold except in my hands and feet but the summer is a problem for me

maybe my magnesium is helping me and i dont know it?????

sooo........you reckon barometric pressure Mrs D.
i decided that was probably a trigger for me..... but unless i keep track of it as i once did for my son for a science thing......it is so variable around here that it is tricky to keep track of if the pain is worse before or after or during the change

DD

Hi,
I take magnesium malate and some magnesium oil on a daily basis. The oil is a bit uncomfortable (stingy) on the skin, but it does absorb rapidly and you can shower it off maybe a 1/2 hour or so after putting it on.

I think the oral supplements do not absorb into the body as effectively as the transdermal type. Also, my wife has a hard time with the oral supplements. They upset her stomach.

I think my problem was due to using acid blockers for too many years. They reduce levels of magnesium in the body over time. Also, I'm an exercise fanatic which also uses up more magnesium than normal. Of course , there are many other factors that can effect your magnesium levels.

I do know it has helped me. My periods of coldness can be measured in minutes rather than hours over the course of a day. It may not be a cure, but it can make a big difference to some people.

mrsD 03-29-2012 02:06 PM

It doesn't matter how you get your magnesium... but our bodies do need it to function.

Just don't overdo it. And get periodic kidney function tests with your check ups. Stay within RDA guidelines, and you should do well.

I am having good response to the lotion myself. I tend to get really loose on oral versions, but I still take them occasionally.
I eat nuts and beans, also, which are good sources.

karsten 03-30-2012 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 865018)
It doesn't matter how you get your magnesium... but our bodies do need it to function.

Just don't overdo it. And get periodic kidney function tests with your check ups. Stay within RDA guidelines, and you should do well.

I am having good response to the lotion myself. I tend to get really loose on oral versions, but I still take them occasionally.
I eat nuts and beans, also, which are good sources.

I know that if you take large oral doses above recommended levels that your body will purge it. Most often the result is loose bowel movements which are a good indicator that you should reduce dosage!

I'm not sure about the transdermal method. Does your body know when it has had enough and will it stop absorbing it? I'm thinking the excess amounts will get flushed through the kidneys. The lotion will not cause loose bowel movements to my knowledge so using it in moderation is well warranted.

In the end it would appear you get better absorption of the product using the lotion vs. the oral method for RDA levels.

You are correct that poor kidney function and over supplementaion of magnesium is a very bad mix.

mrsD 03-30-2012 11:36 AM

There are actually very few poisonings from magnesium.

I've seen figures that they are below 20 and mostly involve,
enemas and IVs. Chemo patients get IVs ...and one culprit,
Fleet PhosphoSoda was taken off the market. Millions used it
for bowel preps for xrays etc. Infants and the elderly are at most risk.

I found this paper on epsom salts absorption recently:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post864114-32.html

The kidneys will get rid of excess for the majority of people.
Anyone with severe kidney failure should be monitored by a doctor, etc.

This is an example of a iatrogenic (medical cause) of overdose:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8740750

This is another.... chronic gargling with magnesium salts???
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11858925

enemas are always problematic when drugs or things are added to them: This is a child/7yrs old!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15759964

And elderly:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7620603

NeuroLogic 04-15-2012 03:23 AM

"Peripheral circulation to the extremities (especially the skin, hands, and feet) may decline by 40% or more as a result of hypothyroidism."--Dr. Mark Starr, Hypothyroidism Type 2, p. 138


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