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chroma 05-01-2012 10:14 PM

Intelliskin sound off
 
We've talked about it here and there in other threads. Now here is a thread just for Intelliskin.

Do you have it? Which one?

How long have you used it? How frequently and for how long at a time do you wear it?

What improvements or problems, if any, did you experience?

Will you continue? Why/why not? Any tips on sizing or anything else?

If you have an Intelliskin shirt, please sound off.

Thanks!

brmr19 05-02-2012 08:02 AM

I have the posturecue v-tee. I started wearing it a couple weeks ago and will wear it daily for a few hours. It takes some getting use to wearing, but it does seem to take pressure off shoulders and give me some relief of my symptoms. Yes I will continue to wear it because it also is a good reminder of posture. I am a 6' tall 185lb male and I wear the large. You need the shirt to fit snug. My son tried it on, he is 6'tall 150lb and the large is to big for him. I am buying him a medium because he wants one for playing baseball.

jkl626 05-03-2012 05:11 PM

Intelliskin vs. postureshirt
 
If you have an Intelliskin shirt, please sound off.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

I was also wondering if the intelliskin is any better than the posture shirt from alignmed, I bought two pstureshirts but they dont help that much. i also have a spinalQ rehab jacket which is great but is very thick and hot. i was thinking of getting the intelliskin bra for summer but dont want to spend the money if its not that good.

nospam 05-03-2012 05:13 PM

I'm am 5'11' and 210 lbs so I wear the XL. Here are some of my previous posts regarding the IntelliSkin. I'm sorry if the chronology of the posts doesn't make full sense, I'll be glad to answer any questions. Please excuse my references to IntelliShirt vs. IntelliSkin, I meant IntelliSkin:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nospam (Post 857767)
By February I start to notice my hands are cold and numb. I start to have problems opening water bottles and jars which my wife opens with ease. We go back to the neurologist and we are all thinking TOS!!! I try to wear the S3 brace to see if it helps but only a little and just too annoying. I ordered a garment from Intellishirt since alignmed never responded to my inquires regarding their postureshirt. I had ordered the wrong size, but luckily they are in Newport Beach and let me exchange that afternoon. Upon wearing the garment I immediately feel a reduction in hand pain & numbness. My grip strength returned back to normal and my headache decreased. I start researching Vascular Surgeons with TOS experience immediately.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nospam (Post 859745)
The S3 brace was useful for one thing. My postural muscles in the back were completely asleep 2 years ago. The S3 brace helped me stretch my overly tight chest muscles so I could activate the muscles in my back. Once I had done that, the S3 brace was nothing but trouble. The S3 brace is cumbersome, overly tight, and has that irritating zipper. Even though they "custom" fitted me at Alignmed in Santa Ana the S3 was never comfortable.

When I showed the S3 to the physical therapists, they did not like it (these therapists shared an office with the physician who prescribed it, not a good sign). It just pulls your shoulder back and down. Not only does it do the work for you, its posture correction is not even correct. Another therapist pointed me to Intellishirt, but I didn't try it until much later. Since insurance paid for the S3 brace, I thought maybe they would pay for Alignmed's PostureShirt...they would not.

I pulled the trigger on the Intellishirt when they released the sleeveless tank version (it was called GUN SHOW at that time). I figured this had to be more comfortable than the S3 and it was. I don't feel the stitching at all, it just feels like an exercise shirt (like Nike DriFit). The only problem I have is that neck bothers me a little. I have a thick neck (17.5") and I don't like shirts touching it (I hate turtlenecks!). The posture correction is mild but effective, you can't really feel a noticeable correction but yet your posture is improved. My therapist says this is because the shirt offers a suggestion/reminder but your muscles are doing the work.

I moved to a new therapist last year because my insurance changed. The new place is actually considering selling the Intellishirt. My therapist tried the Eve shirt for women and she liked it. The only downside was that it could be seen under the short sleeved shirt she wore that day, so it wasn't very fashionable. I'm thinking of buying one for my wife (she gets tensions headaches from bad posture when she is stressed). I just wish these weren't so expensive!

When I saw they had a V-Neck for men I jumped on it. Not only is the neck comfortable for me, the postural correction is better than the tank. Stand with your hands at your sides, keep your arms at your side and rotate your thumbs away from your body. Your posture should automatically correct. This is the effect of the Intellishirt (this is also the most effective stretch for my TOS). I don't notice any downward pressure on the shoulder or collarbone. This shirt is designed to be worn by athletes and exercised in, no one would use it if it were cumbersome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nospam (Post 866052)
Keeping my elbows at my sides at all times has made a huge difference for me (driving, typing, sleeping, etc.). The IntelliSkin garment is also a great reminder and help keep flares at bay - www.intelliskin.net

Quote:

Originally Posted by nospam (Post 858234)
I wear the POSTURECUE™ V-TEE during the day and the POSTURECUE™ TANK at night. Just be warned that you must raise your arms above your head to get these on over your shoulders. The shirt is very lightweight and just feels like an exercise shirt once you get it on. Shirt can be machine washed but hung to dry.


nospam 05-03-2012 05:18 PM

Ladies, check with Anne4tos regarding IntelliSkin for the ladies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anne4tos (Post 865019)
The LARGE Intelliskin arrived the other day and the fit is much better. Took it for a 10 minute test drive and had no vaso-spasms in my right hand. This was an immediate symptom I got while wearing the S3.

The Eve shirt is very long. I can't emphasize that fact enough, so if you are short it may be a negative feature for you. For me, it's perfect! The S3 came above my waist and the Intelliskin comes mid-butt.

I used it this morning to clean out the refrigerator and kitchen. Two tasks which require less than ideal posture. It feels good and brings me back to neutral when I'm done bending and twisting, but 20 mins will be enough for today as I feel some muscle twitching below my scaps.

I will be keeping it as a bottle of Sriracha chili sauce exploded all over the front, so it's now white with many red dots - don't think it meets Intelliskin's return policy anymore. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anne4tos (Post 874335)
klm: I wear the Eve shirt, but I think I'm going to get the bra too.

The one con with the shirt is it's ugly. The way it's cut with a high neck, longish sleeves and a GIANT Intelliskin printed on the side kind of limits you from hiding it under clothes, besides a turtleneck! The bra has a scoop neck and no sleeves. The support may be better in the shirt, but I'd be able to wear the bra out of the house. It may also be a cooler option for summer.

A previous brace (Alignmed S3) did make my TOS worse by putting pressure over the clavicle and plexus. So far, I have noticed no increased symptoms when I wear the shirt and the stitching position by the clavicle is fine.

The Men's POSTURECUE™ V-TEE is fairly invisible under clothes in my opinion, like wearing a V-neck undershirt. One of my female therapists who test drove the Eve shirt for women had the same complaint as Anne being visible under clothes.

nospam 05-03-2012 07:04 PM

IntelliSkin featured on The Today Show - http://thelook.today.msnbc.msn.com/_...l-good-fashion

Not a lot of info but you can get a good look at the bra in the video.

Anne4tos 05-03-2012 09:26 PM

Love it! I cleaned out my pantry the other day with Eve and we did a bang-up job. :) It keeps my right scapula stable rather than flopping all over the place.

Now that I've owned it a bit, my only complaint is that is seems to stretch out quickly. Even though I'm only wearing it an hour at a time at most, it seems to grow and lengthen on me. I'm 5"12" and it will soon be a mini dress on me if it's not washed after a few hours of use.

jkl626 05-03-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anne4tos (Post 875925)
Love it! I cleaned out my pantry the other day with Eve and we did a bang-up job. :) It keeps my right scapula stable rather than flopping all over the place.

Now that I've owned it a bit, my only complaint is that is seems to stretch out quickly. Even though I'm only wearing it an hour at a time at most, it seems to grow and lengthen on me. I'm 5"12" and it will soon be a mini dress on me if it's not washed after a few hours of use.

Hi Anne,
I posted this in a different thread but this is the right place for it . How are you liking the shirt? I am short and I already have a postureshirt so I am thinking about getting the bra except it doesnt look like it would support the tricep deltoid area.Also I am 5'2 and 128 lbs.with a 36D bust but small shoulders. I would usually order the medium,but the postureshirt medium was too large . thanks for any advice.

Anne4tos 05-04-2012 09:09 AM

Julia: I can't give you any advice on the bra as I don't own it yet. It looks like it offers no support in the deltoid/tricep area. What intrigues me about it is the possibility of being able to wear it in public and it could be hidden under clothes. I like the scoop neck and no sleeves on it.

Since you are 5'2", I don't think the Eve shirt will fit you well. I'd stay with what you are currently using. The Alignmed product was extremely short on me while the Intelliskin is almost to long.

Intelliskin was good about returns and exchanges as long as the product was in excellent condition. I don't think you'd have a problem returning it if it irritated your symptoms or didn't offer the support you were hoping to get.

I didn't realize they wanted $95 for the bra too. :eek: It's 1/2 the Eve shirt! Women get ripped off all the time with small clothing!

jkl626 05-04-2012 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anne4tos (Post 876063)

I didn't realize they wanted $95 for the bra too. :eek: It's 1/2 the Eve shirt! Women get ripped off all the time with small clothing!

I know! I already bought 2 from alignmed because the med. was too lg in the shoulders. the small is too,but I ended up keeping them both. Luckliy my brace was covered by insurance! I'll prob get one for the summer.

nospam 05-04-2012 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anne4tos (Post 876063)
Julia: I can't give you any advice on the bra as I don't own it yet. It looks like it offers no support in the deltoid/tricep area. What intrigues me about it is the possibility of being able to wear it in public and it could be hidden under clothes. I like the scoop neck and no sleeves on it.

Since you are 5'2", I don't think the Eve shirt will fit you well. I'd stay with what you are currently using. The Alignmed product was extremely short on me while the Intelliskin is almost to long.

Intelliskin was good about returns and exchanges as long as the product was in excellent condition. I don't think you'd have a problem returning it if it irritated your symptoms or didn't offer the support you were hoping to get.

I didn't realize they wanted $95 for the bra too. :eek: It's 1/2 the Eve shirt! Women get ripped off all the time with small clothing!

The V-Tee is long on me too (much longer than my older model tank). I haven't found it problematic as I just roll up the bottom end.

Pricing the bra the same as all of the other garments does seem a bit outrageous.

nospam 05-08-2012 12:27 AM

Choma, where is your sound off?

Quote:

Originally Posted by chroma (Post 876359)
Intelliskin Foundation Shirt 2.0 arrived Friday. Will try on Saturday. :)


chroma 05-09-2012 11:49 AM

I have a long term problem of being a size "medium-large" which makes it difficult to find shirts that fit well. I ordered the medium Intelliskin, but it is too tight. It does do what it says with regards to posture and I found it especially helpful when sitting at my work desk. This is where my posture tends to degrade the most. But it was too tight to wear for very long.

I have ordered a large and will try it later today. Hopefully it fits right and is not too big to cancel out the benefits.

chroma 05-15-2012 08:16 PM

I tried the large and was surprised that it was so tight in the arm pits. No better than the medium. It did have more material in the middle far upper back close to the neck, but that wasn't where I needed it.

Overall, the Intelliskin is a no go for me. I think if they did custom shirts where they measured out your shoulder, chest, upper traps, etc., and then cranked out a shirt for your body, it would work great. I believe it will also work great if you are fortunate enough to have a good fit with their existing shirts. Sadly, that is not the case with me.

jkl626 mentioned that they liked "The Spinal Q Brace". Um, wow, looks hard to order: http://www.spinalq.com/ (web site comes up blank under any browser at this time). :rolleyes:

jkl626 05-15-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chroma (Post 879671)
I tried the large and was surprised that it was so tight in the arm pits. No better than the medium. It did have more material in the middle far upper back close to the neck, but that wasn't where I needed it.

Overall, the Intelliskin is a no go for me. I think if they did custom shirts where they measured out your shoulder, chest, upper traps, etc., and then cranked out a shirt for your body, it would work great. I believe it will also work great if you are fortunate enough to have a good fit with their existing shirts. Sadly, that is not the case with me.

jkl626 mentioned that they liked "The Spinal Q Brace". Um, wow, looks hard to order: http://www.spinalq.com/ (web site comes up blank under any browser at this time). :rolleyes:

Hi Chroma, Yes their website doesnt work. My dr at Orthohealing ordered it and it is covered by my insurance. I think its very expensive.Its more like a vest,not a shirt. I think it will be too hot for summer. But it definately helps. Didnt you see a dr at Orthohealing? you might want to call them to see if you can order it. I think they ordered it through a rep.Here is the phone # on the package:855-4-Q-Brace. I also have two alignmed postureshirts. The Black cotton one is the strogest support but nowhere near the spinal Q.

jkl626 07-10-2012 01:19 PM

Intelliskin Bra
 
Hi,
Does anyone have the intelliskin Bra? My chiro recommended it or the Eve shirt. They make one with a zipper now, so that might be a good way to go-easier to get on and off. I already have 2 posture shirts, but dont do that much for me as I have small shoulders.
Thanks for any input

nospam 07-10-2012 01:58 PM

The new zipper collection also features:
Quote:

Cool Jade fabric - made from recycled jade stone which cools the skin's surface temperature 3-4º F.
http://shop.intelliskin.net/ZIPPER-COLLECTION_c_23.html

Videos
New Zipper Product Zipper Collection
New Cool Jade fabric on the IntelliSkin Zipper Collection
New Zipper Empower PostureCue™ Sports Bra'

Unfortunately, they don't have a zippered Men's V-Tee yet which is the garment I have the most trouble getting into. I like the idea of the new Cool Jade Fabric.

nospam 07-10-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkl626 (Post 896256)
Hi,
Does anyone have the intelliskin Bra? My chiro recommended it or the Eve shirt. They make one with a zipper now, so that might be a good way to go-easier to get on and off. I already have 2 posture shirts, but dont do that much for me as I have small shoulders.
Thanks for any input

I have been to the Intelliskin office in Irvine (it's only a few buildings down from my massage therapist). I just called first and they were open to it. They may let you come by and get fitted so you don't waste time shipping garments back and forth.

The best thing about the garments is that they are very lightweight. More lightweight than a men's cotton T-shirt. I can wear them as T-shirts although I think the Eve Shirt may not work as well with many women's fashions.

nospam 07-12-2012 02:59 PM

Intelliskin Zipper Collection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nospam (Post 896272)
The new zipper collection also features:
Quote:

Cool Jade fabric - made from recycled jade stone which cools the skin's surface temperature 3-4º F.
http://shop.intelliskin.net/ZIPPER-COLLECTION_c_23.html

Videos
New Zipper Product Zipper Collection
New Cool Jade fabric on the IntelliSkin Zipper Collection
New Zipper Empower PostureCue™ Sports Bra'

I stopped by the Intelliskin office today and tried the new Zippered Foundation Shirt for men. The Cool Jade Fabric seems to work as advertised. However, the zippered shirt was not really that much easier to get on than the V-Tee for me presently. This is likely only because, I can raise my arms above my head without issue now so I can see the zippered version being necessary for those who cannot.

I can imagine the zippered bra being easier to get on than the older version.

The sizing also seems to be a bit different. I wear an XL V-Tee and Tank, but could not squeeze into a XL Zippered. XXL Zippered seems to be barely larger than the older XLs. I did purchase the XXL Zippered.

The neckline on the Zippered is close to equivalent of the V-Tee, so it can be worn as a T-shirt under most men's clothes (and still appear professional). However, the sleeves on the XXL Zippered are longer than the XL V-Tee (not sure if this is because of the sizing inconsistency or the design itself). I can wear the V-Tee with short sleeved shirts but I have have to roll up the sleeves on the zippered a bit so they are not visible (a problem I believe many women have with the Eve shirt).

After wearing back to back the Zippered and the V-Tee I have to give a slight edge to the Zippered due to The Cool Jade Fabric which is just a bit more comfortable. Also, the zipper lining is well designed and I don't feel the zipper when wearing unlike the awfully irritating Alignmed S3 zipper.

If you are considering buying a new Intelliskin garment, I recommend choosing the zippered. If you already have an Intelliskin garment and don't need another, the difference is not great enough to warrant another purchase IMHO.

jkl626 07-18-2012 06:41 PM

Intelliskin Bra
 
Went and bought the zipper bra today from Intelliskin. It is a little hard aroind the shoulders, The one with out the zipper was a little softer but I liked the zipper and th look of the black one under T-Shirts. i wore it for 2 hours while at the drawing board. My shoulder started getting sore after awhile anyway. I will try it without it for awhile as you arenot supposed to wear it too much at first.

First impressions: very similar to the alignmed posture shirts, but easier to wear under shirts. not alot of shoulder support,but good scalpular support. I tried on the Eve shirt and thought it had better support, but I am waiting for a long sleeved one to come out for winter before I spend more $$$$.

My spinal Q brace gives much much better support everywhere,just a bit bulky and hot and I cant wear it for very long either.

stos2 07-19-2012 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkl626 (Post 898694)
Went and bought the zipper bra today from Intelliskin. It is a little hard aroind the shoulders, The one with out the zipper was a little softer but I liked the zipper and th look of the black one under T-Shirts. i wore it for 2 hours while at the drawing board. My shoulder started getting sore after awhile anyway. I will try it without it for awhile as you arenot supposed to wear it too much at first.

First impressions: very similar to the alignmed posture shirts, but easier to wear under shirts. not alot of shoulder support,but good scalpular support. I tried on the Eve shirt and thought it had better support, but I am waiting for a long sleeved one to come out for winter before I spend more $$$$.

My spinal Q brace gives much much better support everywhere,just a bit bulky and hot and I cant wear it for very long either.

Thanks so much for sharing. I was thinking of ordering one, but my PT said I could have compression issues as I am not able to wear my Bra strap on my left shoulder.Do you think it compresses at that point? I also have issues with the car seat belt, I am usually pulling it off my shoulder.
My left shoulder is tighter and does come forward, so I thought it might be a good idea to have the posture cue bra. Of course she is good at manual therapy and we are working on external rotations, but I just thought the posture cue bra might be able to hold the position of the shoulder after therapy as I feel like a million bucks after therapy and the good feeling does last a couple of hours , I wonder if it would help to hold it longer with the posturecue bra .

jkl626 07-19-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stos2 (Post 898860)
Thanks so much for sharing. I was thinking of ordering one, but my PT said I could have compression issues as I am not able to wear my Bra strap on my left shoulder.Do you think it compresses at that point? I also have issues with the car seat belt, I am usually pulling it off my shoulder.
My left shoulder is tighter and does come forward, so I thought it might be a good idea to have the posture cue bra. Of course she is good at manual therapy and we are working on external rotations, but I just thought the posture cue bra might be able to hold the position of the shoulder after therapy as I feel like a million bucks after therapy and the good feeling does last a couple of hours , I wonder if it would help to hold it longer with the posturecue bra .

It doesnt seem to be that tight for me around the shoulders,or have as much compression as the Eve shirt. but then I have small shoulders. I havent worn it enough to see how I feel about it,but I'll keep you posted. You can order it and then return it if you are not satisfied. Or if you are in SOCAL they let you come and try them on which was very helpful!

stos2 07-20-2012 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkl626 (Post 898868)
It doesnt seem to be that tight for me around the shoulders,or have as much compression as the Eve shirt. but then I have small shoulders. I havent worn it enough to see how I feel about it,but I'll keep you posted. You can order it and then return it if you are not satisfied. Or if you are in SOCAL they let you come and try them on which was very helpful!

I might order it and give it a try. Thanks for keeping me posted.

jkl626 07-22-2012 02:43 PM

Picture of Intelliskin Bra
 
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I wore my intelliskin bra under a dress last night-it worked great!
See Photo!
it is the zipper model.

Laur3d 07-22-2012 03:04 PM

Hi Stos2- I have the same problem with bra straps and seat belts. I think the bra looks promising as they are wider straps- almost vest like, but still unsure. If you try this out will you let me know your thoughts? As it stands now, I can really only wear a regular bra for about 6 hrs before pain gets bad.

Hi JKl626- how many hours at a time do you wear the bra? I'm kind of thinking if just for 3-4 hrs at work (a computer) this could be good.

Thanks

Laur3d 08-03-2012 08:34 PM

I got my Intelliskin Posturecure zipper bra Wed. I can absolutely tell the difference. It feels so much better when I'm wearing it. I can also feel more pain creep back in after I take it off. I would recommend it since you can return. The best money I've spent since surgery.

stos2 08-04-2012 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkl626 (Post 899674)
I wore my intelliskin bra under a dress last night-it worked great!
See Photo!
it is the zipper model.

Thanks! I am really inspired to get one! How long were you able to wear it?

stos2 08-04-2012 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laur3d (Post 903017)
I got my Intelliskin Posturecure zipper bra Wed. I can absolutely tell the difference. It feels so much better when I'm wearing it. I can also feel more pain creep back in after I take it off. I would recommend it since you can return. The best money I've spent since surgery.

Laura, how long can you wear it? I haven't ordered mine yet, but I maybe in So Cal this month so thought I would try one on in person for size, and then purchase it.
It does not bother the bra strap area on the shoulder when you wear it then?

Laur3d 08-04-2012 12:19 PM

I can wear for hours at a time. Definitely doing any chores or for in the car. After re-reading their web site it looks like I was supposed to build up to wearing for longer periods of time. But to be honest it just feels better when it's on. There is NO compression in the shoulders at all. It's like an oversized sports bra or mini vest. So think of how the sleeves differ. It pulls your shoulders back very gently- very comfortable. I will probably get another. I would say if you can go in for fitting definitely do that. I got lucky and mine fits perfect.

stos2 08-12-2012 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laur3d (Post 903173)
I can wear for hours at a time. Definitely doing any chores or for in the car. After re-reading their web site it looks like I was supposed to build up to wearing for longer periods of time. But to be honest it just feels better when it's on. There is NO compression in the shoulders at all. It's like an oversized sports bra or mini vest. So think of how the sleeves differ. It pulls your shoulders back very gently- very comfortable. I will probably get another. I would say if you can go in for fitting definitely do that. I got lucky and mine fits perfect.

I am going to be in So Cal to see Dr.Ando next week so I will definitely go to the store and get a fitting. Thanks for your thoughts and letting me know that it doesn't compress at the shoulders. I am excited to get one.:)

Laur3d 08-20-2012 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stos2 (Post 905159)
I am going to be in So Cal to see Dr.Ando next week so I will definitely go to the store and get a fitting. Thanks for your thoughts and letting me know that it doesn't compress at the shoulders. I am excited to get one.:)

Stos2- How did the store visit go?


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